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Author Topic: Dispersants in the Gulf  (Read 3676 times)

Offline 4Tesla

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Dispersants in the Gulf
« on: June 12, 2010, 08:19:34 AM »
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Dispersing the oil into the water column accelerates the poisoning of all marine life, deep throughout the water column and seabed. Ultimately it results in “covering-up” the extent of the disaster on the surface, while amplifying the damage within our oceans.  Also, when the dispersants admix with the crude oil, a third far more toxic product is produced called “dispersed oil.”  Dispersed oil has been shown to be more toxic than the sum of its parts.
http://oilspilltruth.wordpress.com/dispersants/

This is very bad!  Tell congress to stop the use of dispersants in the Gulf by signing this petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/25/stop-the-use-of-dispersants-in-the-gulf

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Dispersants in the Gulf
« on: June 12, 2010, 08:19:34 AM »

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 07:24:44 PM »
Did you read about the red vulcano mud stories? Possible sulfer, but hopefully iron. Either way, toxic.

No red smurred birds in any prior disasters, oil was always perfectly black. All in the Gulf is now RED.

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 07:30:22 AM »
What ever it is we have a big screw up. Technology being insufficient is a smoke screen. First the company had to abandon the first well. They hurried and screwed it up and learned nothing and then the screwed up this well. They knew they were drilling a deep high pressure well and our technology is fine. Unprepared they did not go to the strength of materials chart and figure out how thick the material had to be to hold the pressure.

As I see it a wave of pressure at an incredible speed split the pipe in several areas. This effectively Hydrofractured the entire set of layers around the well. That means the sea floor could be blown out at any time.
That leak could become a very large volcano of what ever is in the reservoir. Any time, the drilling of relief wells is our best bet.

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 07:30:22 AM »
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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 02:57:00 AM »
  Alchol is great at binding oil and water.  Now the oil is very difficult to seperate from the water.  It is emulsified.  The emulsion is less concentrated than the raw oil and I would hope less lethal than the raw oil to marine vegetation.   The Gulf acts as a huge heat driven engine that transports water to as far off places as the arctic circle and the indian ocean.  This is a global man made mess and will be used by the globalists to further there goals by pointing out how ineffective the present governments are at handling global enviromental crisis.  They already tried to captitolize on the global warming issue and now it will be the global enviromental cleanup fund or some other horseshit.  Of course the poor man will be taxed and the wealth stored in the elites banks and loaned back to the poor man with interest.  It isnt poor individuals anymore it is poor nations they are enslaving.   The obamatron has struck a deal with BP already to put aside funds for people affected by the spill.  Whose banks will these funds be on deposit in and loaned out at interest while the claimants go through unimaginable hoops trying to be awarded a settlement by who knows what court.  While the claimant is spending most of their waking hours with lawyers and post office people sending and receiving registerd mail the banks will be loaning billions of BPS money out at interest to people they want to control.  Since it is hard currency the banks will change 10 billion into 100 billion of loans and collect interest on repayment of money they never even had on deposit.  A tax on oil will be pushed through the governments of the world to create a fund for global pollution remediation.  Some sort of bullshit will insue like a few token research projects and experimental craft will be hyped up by the media.  Maybe a huge stockpile of new and improved diapers for the ocean.  Of course the contracts will be awarded to those in a position to deposit the profits associated with buying low and saying they bought high in certain banks so as to increase the assets of said banks.
This is why a hammer purchased by NASA costs 50.00 and mars rovers look like science fair projects 7th graders made.
The grant money stays in the bank while the scientists have to beg for money to replace broken test tubes.  The fema coffins is a good one.  Stockpile a bunch of oversized coolers for emergency deployment.  Each one of those coolers probably cost the taxpayers a 1000 dollars and there are millions of em.  The profits are on deposit in some bank somewhere being loaned out at interest to somebody somewhere and not only are the profits being loaned out but the funny money the banks are able to produce at will.  Astronomical rent is being paid to somebody somewhere to warehouse them out in the sun where the UV is turning them into dust.  The people involved capitolizing on the Katrina mess.  Why will the Gulf oil spill be any different. 

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 04:14:08 PM »
  Alchol is great at binding oil and water.  Now the oil is very difficult to seperate from the water.  It is emulsified.  The emulsion is less concentrated than the raw oil and I would hope less lethal than the raw oil to marine vegetation.   The Gulf acts as a huge heat driven engine that transports water to as far off places as the arctic circle and the indian ocean.  This is a global man made mess and will be used by the globalists to further there goals by pointing out how ineffective the present governments are at handling global enviromental crisis.  They already tried to captitolize on the global warming issue and now it will be the global enviromental cleanup fund or some other horseshit.  Of course the poor man will be taxed and the wealth stored in the elites banks and loaned back to the poor man with interest.  It isnt poor individuals anymore it is poor nations they are enslaving.   The obamatron has struck a deal with BP already to put aside funds for people affected by the spill.  Whose banks will these funds be on deposit in and loaned out at interest while the claimants go through unimaginable hoops trying to be awarded a settlement by who knows what court.  While the claimant is spending most of their waking hours with lawyers and post office people sending and receiving registerd mail the banks will be loaning billions of BPS money out at interest to people they want to control.  Since it is hard currency the banks will change 10 billion into 100 billion of loans and collect interest on repayment of money they never even had on deposit.  A tax on oil will be pushed through the governments of the world to create a fund for global pollution remediation.  Some sort of bullshit will insue like a few token research projects and experimental craft will be hyped up by the media.  Maybe a huge stockpile of new and improved diapers for the ocean.  Of course the contracts will be awarded to those in a position to deposit the profits associated with buying low and saying they bought high in certain banks so as to increase the assets of said banks.
This is why a hammer purchased by NASA costs 50.00 and mars rovers look like science fair projects 7th graders made.
The grant money stays in the bank while the scientists have to beg for money to replace broken test tubes.  The fema coffins is a good one.  Stockpile a bunch of oversized coolers for emergency deployment.  Each one of those coolers probably cost the taxpayers a 1000 dollars and there are millions of em.  The profits are on deposit in some bank somewhere being loaned out at interest to somebody somewhere and not only are the profits being loaned out but the funny money the banks are able to produce at will.  Astronomical rent is being paid to somebody somewhere to warehouse them out in the sun where the UV is turning them into dust.  The people involved capitolizing on the Katrina mess.  Why will the Gulf oil spill be any different.

Exactly. Someone stands to gain political capital from this - as Rahm Emmanuel stated, never let a good crisis go to waste. Obama is now pushing for the very carbon tax legislation I previously warned about, on the strength of this growing crisis which he has done nothing to alleviate. What has he done since the blowout? taken two vacations and improved his golfing skills. What has Tony Hayward done, after cashing in his shares just before the disaster, (like Goldman Sachs) - he's going yachting, with six million pounds a year he doesn't need to worry about minor details like an extinction level event. He 'Wants his life back'.The 'little people', as we are patronisingly described by the BP Chairman, will have to suffer. Not just in terms of business, but in terms of the toxic air they will be breathing from now on.
    It is not just the oil that we should be concerned about, although as 4Tesla pointed out this is very serious. The oil is 40% methane. We have Methylene Chloride, Hydrogen Sulphide, Benzene, and the extremely toxic corexit solvent used by BP which multiplies the toxicity of the oil by a factor of ten. These will be subject to 'phase transition' with evaporation and will be showered onto crops, and people, as rain, there is visual evidence that even now this damaging plants. The high methane content, and the helium given off by this particular oil field - which, by the way, is an abiotic oil migration channel sitting on a magma chamber - helium is given off when thorium and radium decay, this is one way to detect the oil field; so we now have a stream of radioactive oil poisoning the Gulf, which BP made ten times worse by pumping it with millions of gallons of corexit at source, thus ensuring that, instead of rising to the surface where it could be dealt with, large plumes of dispersed globules remain below the surface, sucking away oxygen and killing the ecosystem of the Gulf, causing 'dead zones'.
      There is no way at 40,000 feet that ferns and dinosaurs can create fossil fuels - their remains aren't found at this depth; the fossil fuel hypothesis is gravely flawed. Why is it that crude oil is chemically the same in different locations, when it should be different according to the different plants and animals decomposed? Why is it that disused oil drilling locations - including one 80 miles off the Gulf coast, have been mysteriously filling up with oil? because as the Russians know, oil is produced by chemical processes deep in the earth's mantle. Peak Oil is myth of scarcity created by the oil corporations - just like De Beers created the myth of the rare diamond, made it expensive and created their monopoly.
          When the Russians drilled down to 40,000 feet on dry land they encountered a huge pocket of oil and gas at high pressure and were forced to use mini-nukes to seal the blowout. BP, stupidly emulating them, when they know full well that the world is awash in oil, went down 5,000 feet into the gulf waters, drilled down another 30,000 feet into the sea bed (After cutting costs to the extent where disaster was inevitable) and now we have admitted, finally, after all the lies and false figures, that actually 4 million gallons of this toxic oil is escaping into the Gulf daily - they can't stop it after two months, or they have no desire to do so, as we have seen by Obama refusing help from 13 countries - for example expert, well-equipped ships from Belgium, while he makes empty postures about kicking butt.
      The normal pressure from an oil field is around 1500 psi - what we are looking at here is, according to Transalaska pipeline pastor and inside Lindsey Williams, anywhere between 20,000 and 70,000 pounds per square inch, in fact, if a methane pocket were involved it go as high as 100,000 psi.
     It appears that the pipeline 1000 feet below the bed surface has fractured, hence the reports of several seperate leaks of oil and gas in the sea floor and distinct plumes of oil emerging miles away from the wellhead.
     When the wellhead has been completely worn away by friction - if that hasn't already happened - more oil from this abiotic migration channel will be released. Eventually the pressure of the escaping oil and the downward water pressure will equalise, and seawater will be forced downwards into the magma chamber. At 400 degrees celsius this will create a superheated pressurised steam wave and unleash a massive bubble of methane. The Gulf sea floor will rise, resulting in a 200 ft tsunami which will threaten all life within a 200 mile radius of the coast. That's one possibility.
      Another is the upcoming hurricane season on the gulf coast, which promises to be more active than usual. Why? because the massive amounts of oil in the gulf region will raise the temperature by 2 degrees or more, changing climactic conditions around the Gulf stream. This could seed powerful storms and if not stopped, could potentially impact global weather patterns.
      If the oil is not stopped - and either the willingness to stop it, or the technology, is simply not there - perhaps both - the corexit-toxified, radioactive oil will enter the gulf stream and eventually find its way to Iceland and Europe. Lovely. So Obama plays golf, fiddling like Nero while Rome burns, and Tony Hayward goes yachting. After all, they care SO much about the 'little people' - you and me. Over the Gulf of Mexico, a no-fly zone, so that people can't see the extent of the problem - and on the ground, BP is in total control of the 'cleanup', so that local efforts to help are refused, reporters warned off. Halliburton buys up a major oil cleanup company before the disaster, so they are in a convenient position to profit.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 08:47:45 PM by silverfish »

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 04:14:08 PM »
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Offline ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Dispersants in the Gulf
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 10:39:42 AM »
1 Million Signatures needed to address BP

AN EXTRAORDINARY CRISIS REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARY RESPONSE – THE PEOPLE MUST ACT
TO STOP THE GULF CATASTROPHE


1 million signatures are needed to begin a corporation charter to address BP
beyond what is being done. We can do it. Class action people who do mandates
have volunteered to use our signatures to help address this. Its easy - Name
e-mail and country is easy at this link
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/forms/evidenceofconcern.php

A special thanks to all who have contributed information and suggestions, plus
who continue to dig deep to show the extent of BP's negligence. Attacking the
source is what we must do, the open source free energy community has a direct
way we can do this, together with a corporation charter we can make sure the
Renewable energy that's sort after includes our areas of research.

But this charter which we need 1 million signatures to fill, will prevent
foreknowledge, inside of trading, judges with financial ties to approval
permits, and also force insurance and have strict penalties. It will also make
it mandatory that the renewable solution is to be used over chemicals, the
corporation charter cuts the snake off at the head but also makes OUR renewable
sustainable education inclusive, this otherwise would be neglected. One million
signatures is possible and the unique EDUCATIONAL contribution the open source
community can contribute means we are really attacking the source.

Pass this link around please, it was hard work all of us collecting info Its
easy - Name e-mail and country is easy at this link
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/forms/evidenceofconcern.php

For those who want to read Why we need the charter, find out about the natural
solutions and what BP did and how we can address it, this Oil Subjugation page
was made from the open source Free energy community and other help. Please vote,
1 million signatures will cripple them, it can be made to prevent future
disaster, it attacks the SYSTEM that let this happen.

http://panacea-bocaf.org/oilsubjugation.htm

It can happen again. Please pass the link around on face book guys. The Free
energy community can hit them hard too. We need every one to act.

Ash


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