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Author Topic: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump  (Read 15122 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« on: August 06, 2011, 09:14:56 PM »
Hi All,

there is another inventor, who claims to have a
working buoyancy energy extraction selfrunning pump.

Here is the link to his website with an animation
and a video of a working prototype:

http://www.joespiterisargent.com/how-it-works/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQCO7iYTkwU

and

http://www.joespiterisargent.com/wp-content/uploads/HowItWorks.flv


Reminds me of the olf Grueter Blasius machine from Munich, Germany.

But I don´t see, how it can rotate, when the red or green aircontainer
still has all the air in it and is at the top ?

Why should this side fall then again and  rotate ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 01:09:09 AM »
Intresting, reminds me a little of a concept I once had.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5267-bouyancy-hacked.html

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 07:47:22 AM »
 This is old. We already talked about this a couple years ago. It uses electronic valves to control the transfer of air. When it locks in, a valve is opened allowing the air to move and since the air bags are attached to the float, as the float rises, it pushes the air out of the bottom air bag and together with the affect of air rising in water, forces it in to the top. As the top fills, it inflates the top bag and deflates the bottom bag and once the top bag is inflated, the top becomes heavier then the bottom and it makes it top heavy. Once the bag has been filled with air, a air valve is closed and the lock is released and it is allowed to rotate back to the opposite side and it keeps repeating the cycle. While the valve is closed, the float can not move.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 07:47:22 AM »
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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 07:59:36 AM »
 I personally think it could be designed to be more efficient then it is as shown and described. They need to do away with the cables and utilize the main axle it rotates back and forth on. They also need to utilize the motion of the float and of the bags being filled and deflated.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 03:38:21 PM »
If this works once (cycle) It should go on and On and On........

So Simple!![love it]

Seems like I'll be playing in the tub Too Cherryman, BTW excellent idea you have also!

EVERY BODY INTO THE TUB!!
Gotta prove this out.............

Chet

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 03:52:16 AM »
http://www.joespiterisargent.com/

It says they've been developing it for the last TEN YEARS.

Watching the video, you really don't see it making a complete cycle. You see parts of the cycle, and a couple of the shots look to me like the machine slows down and is about to stop.

This one looks strange to me, but that's just my opinion. I don't trust them, and the fancy graphics don't really cut it. I think they need to show a video of a working prototype without cuts and switching angles. It almost looks like a scam to me, and they are looking for investors. I truly hope I am wrong.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 05:50:41 PM »
Hi ResinRat.

at:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=83047&sid=0fd0addf01424d366e63720ba20aa759#83047

somebody wrote:

I wrote to joe spiteri and asked ..."do you have a fully functioning prototype?" and recieved this as reply
"Yes I do but not ready for commercialization yet. We have what is known as a Working prototype to prove all the functions.It would be ideal for remote energy, because the machine runs in a manufactured water-tank that can be placed over or under ground and the power supply can satisfy the requirements of the place or site."Joe Spiteri Sargent Sun 30/01/2011


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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 06:11:47 PM »
There is also a test report of a Dr. Borg from a technical university of Malta
here:

http://www.joespiterisargent.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/inventions_claim_report.pdf

I have just written him an email to ask for more information.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 06:30:51 PM »
Okay, the pump is more complicated as it was seen in the animation,
as there is also water in the red and green compartments...during some movements...


I just uploaded his patent, where you can see it all much better in
different drawing details.


http://www.multiupload.com/CTXJKO9M23

or here at the mirrors:

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Regards, STefan.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 05:31:11 PM »
I received some answers from Mr. Spiteri:

Dear Mr Stefan Hartmann
 
Please be informed that the video shown in my website is there to show how the eventual machine will work.
 
Our large crude prototype is not yet ready for production but a pre production model would be build. For an Intelligent evaluation of the invention we have a Force & Energy Analysis book while the crude prototype will show a Mechanical Engineer [good in Fluid mechanics] the three functions of the invention.
 
Thank you for your mail
 
Joe
 
 
Joe Spiteri Sargent
Gozo Enterprises Ltd & Sargent Enterprises Ltd
Tel +356 7989 6667
Website www.joespiterisargent.com      email sargent@go.net.mt
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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 05:54:24 PM »
Here are 2 pictures from the PDF file leavelet, that I received.

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 06:28:41 PM »
Hi,
I received an answer from Adolf Schneider,
the publisher of the Switzerland´s Net-Journal:

http://www.borderlands.de/inet.jrnl.php3

Dear Stefan.

Mr. Spiteri will come with his technical assistants now back to our meeting in Zurich.

A representative of a Swiss engineering group had seen in July on the spot Spiteri´s construction.

The individual phases just work as described, but a long run is not possible,
because it still has  leaks and other mechanical defects of the machine ,
so a longer run is not possible at this moment.

It is thought about to build a small working model (which of course has much less power, but should easily run contineously).

The construction is done quite cleverly, mainly because the buoyancy ensures in the first phase, that the main weight
together with the buoyancy air-compartments will go up over the pivot point and then of course due to the excess weight of the entire cylinder above its center of gravity it tilts itself into rotation.


If the floats are then down, they move only upward again, when the valves are  re-watering the lower side of the floats and the structure's lower side (in between).

With floats, it is precisely the interesting property that the lift (obviously) is only effective if the float is exposed on the top and bottom to  a different water pressure.

This is not the case if for example an empty barrel stands completely flat on the floor inside the water
( so that below the barrel there could not be any effective water pressure and so the barrel gets no buoyancy ! ).



 In this case - those phases, we have at the pump Spiteri - only the water pressure pushes on the top of the barrel and the barrel remains at the bottom of a water vessel stand. Only when we can tilt it sideways, so that water flows from the bottom floor between the barrel and the vessel base, the lift begins to work. So here we have a way to virtually "shut down"  the lifting forces and thus bring in an asymmetry in one cycle.

The downward acting force of gravity can not be so easily "switched off".

Basically we assume that  a closed force-distance (current integral) in a conservative field gives the sum of  zero.
If one succeeds, however, to change the conservative field during a cycle (change in field strength, interruption of the field strength, shielding, etc.), then we have non-conservative conditions.

In this case, it is conceivable that not only in a straight line (in the perpendicular case, the gravitational field), but also with a circulation (as in between a so-called "renormalization" or a "Regauging") has taken place, the energy from the field can be obtained.

Non-conservative fields there are for example in a pipe flow, where the current flows in the center than at the edge. A particle which moves in the middle, is carried by strong energy. If it is then perpendicular (across) the flow in the direction of the tube wall moves, it can along the tube wall to flow back (with less energy expenditure) and come back to the starting point (by turn away from the wall cross-flows in the middle). This ultimately leads to the fact that independent vortices may form in the flow.

A non-conservative situation, we have also at magnetic material in an external magnetic field. A round with "energy gain" (the field) is possible, if interrupted during a partial-distance, the magnetic field / off or shielded. Appropriate shielding should give it.

Kind regards
Adolf Schneider

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Re: Joe Spiteri Sargent selfrunning waterpump
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 07:57:13 PM »
I spent years studying the physics of fluid flow and the mathematics of energy generation using water, pumps and turbines.

My first reaction is that I do not understand what Spiteri is talking about. The losses due to friction may be unsustainable. I am not sure.

There is no maths or physics here (aside from vague references to gravity and buoyancy).

Having said that, I iterate that the report from the University of Malta is promising. Also, the invention seems highly original. The fruits of a brilliant mind no doubt.

But show us the maths and then we will be able to evaluate it from our armchairs, without having to go to Switzerland or Malta, nice though that would be  ;D
« Last Edit: August 11, 2011, 12:11:27 AM by quantumtangles »

 

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