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Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2005, 05:18:05 PM »
Walt,

Like I've said... using saline solution instead of Windex as a conductive vehicle does not make what you are doing different. Again, I stress that I have been using plates from the start. This has been demonstrated at conferences since around 1997. Aluminum was used for demonstrations to show that anyone can duplicate the effect from a common store bought item. Windex is also more convenient because it is already made. Putting the charge on the plates shows that more power can be obtained but this does not mean that they are not generating energy without the charge. Take an aluminum plate, carbon fiber cathode, and Windex, like in my demonstration and measure the voltage for yourself. You will realize that I have been developing the capture capacitor effect for several years now. I have used all kinds of anodes. I sent you a receipt to you proving to you that I was using a type of chemalloy several years ago. I sent the receipt to you to show that I was not lifting your ideas. I have no problem sharing the research with you but what I have a problem with is the perception that what I have already done is something that you have recently discovered. I have no problem with giving you credit where it is due. You did tell me that you were getting better results with graphite cylinders and that the plates did not generate as much power. I took your word for it and even bought a lathe to duplicate your claim. Now, you are going with my original design. What's up with this?

I have never stated that all of my research is based on my original discoveries. In fact, at all of my lectures I do give credit to Le Bon and T. H. Moray. I have always said that I am reviving a lost science. I have made a few original discoveries along the way, for today anyway. I say this because quite often I end up finding that something has been done in the past. This is exactly why I think that there is a real conspiracy. There is not an energy shortage. This is a lie from what I have learned reading old patents and magazine articles.

I don't believe at this point that where you are now with your research was not influenced by what I have been doing. I have shared with you tidbits here and there... like the x-ray connection... you have forgotten where your directions came from and this is what gets to me.

I have used polymer gel myself. Calvin Bahlmann introduced the stuff to me back in 1997. I still have the conference video of the demonstration that he made with his "water cells" that used aluminum, copper and the polymer gel. You were aware of this because I pointed it out to you early on in one of our phone conversations. So, your use of a polymer gel is nothing new either.

Yes, there is room for the two of us and a few more people to boot. I think it is great that someone is finally duplicating what I have done because this gives validation to the concepts. However, I also think that you should also give credit to my research that came before you.

With all of the above said I hope that the air is now clearer. I do not desire to prove my side any further. It is your decision at this point if we are going to have a friendly co-existence or not.


                               Sincerely, Bruce A. Perreault

Kysmett

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2005, 05:32:43 PM »
and so ego, once more, hinders cooperation

Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2005, 10:10:18 PM »
Kysmett,

Who's ego? Mine, Walt's, or both? I am more than willing to co-exist with Walt.
All I am asking here is for integrity if this is the correct word that I am looking
for.  ;)

                      -Bruce P.         

Kysmett

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2005, 10:16:40 PM »
both, really,

Does it really matter who did what first?  What information or influence was gleaned from whom?

If it does, then are we really in this to make it happen or to have people know our names?

Thats pretty much what I meant.  I have two children about the same age.  If I catch them bickering, I get the he started it, no she did...., no thats becaus he did....[at this point they are both in it deep]  I don't care who started it, (I just don't think its worth anybody's time dealing with it).  I tell them that they are family...on the same team, and if they are fighting instead of helping, then they are keeping each other from doing something more productive.

I mean no disrespect.  In fact I completely understand.  I wish people knew my name, but, hey, thats not why I'm here.

Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2005, 12:56:03 AM »
Kysmett,

The response towards your children is a typical response that most parents give. This response has always disturbed me. It is a socialistic reaction, no disrespect intended towards you. This attitude has been engrained in most from generation to generation. This is a hive mentality that suppresses individuality.?

I believe that the individual should be recognized for his/her accomplishments. This gives the individual motivation to reach their full human potential. The opposite holds true in a socialistic or communist society where the collective outweighs the importance of the one. There needs to be a balance for a society to be healthy and so far as I know the human species has never reached this stage of evolution.

To answer your question if it really matters who did what first... my answer is an affirmative. What use is something if our motive is just to make it happen? It is not just about a name either. It is about self value and a sense of self worth that gives us a spiritual fullness to continue to contribute to the rest of the body (human society). All of the individuals of a body must be healthy for the greater good.

To dampen my individual accomplishments reduces my self worth and gives me no motivation to make further contributions to the collective. What good is a "team" if it's individual links are not made strong? Isn't a chain as strong as it's weakest link?

I am here to make the collective chain stronger but if my individuality is of no importance then I need to find a chain that recognizes it's individual links. Do you understand where I am coming from?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Bruce P.

Walter Hofmann

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2005, 11:52:40 AM »
Hi
this has nothing to do with this theme and should not be put here, I am tired to here all the same  complaines over and over again.
greetings
walt

Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2005, 03:51:11 PM »
Walt,

My response has everything to do with my situation with you.
I have been nice to you considering your attitude. Now, you
are wearing my patience down.

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hartiberlin

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2005, 04:51:50 PM »
Please no flamewars.
Just you both please build your cells and sell them.
And everybody will be happy.
Thanks.
Stefan.

Walter Hofmann

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2005, 11:15:12 PM »
hi all,
I get the feeling that I should just stop posting any off my results in the future to avoid more of this unconstructive disscussion.
I am not intending to offer my AG-cells here public. If somebody has questions please send me a private e-mail to a542002@hotmail.com
greetings
walt

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2005, 11:31:21 PM »
Please Walt continue to post your results over here please.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

gadgetmall

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2009, 04:39:23 PM »
hi all,
I get the feeling that I should just stop posting any off my results in the future to avoid more of this unconstructive disscussion.
I am not intending to offer my AG-cells here public. If somebody has questions please send me a private e-mail to a542002@hotmail.com
greetings
walt
Awsome cells YOU Discovered . Hey its just liek i said . If you use a different method for somthing simular then it is your discovery and you can patent it . Also anyone  at ant time can take anybody's idea and patent the Idea ,product, or whatever even thought someone  may have a posted "record" of your findings it don't hold water in the patent process not any court  system . If you sent the plans to your self 15 years ago in a sealed envelope address to yourself(poor mans patent ) The lawyer will just laugh at you . TOTALLY USELESS ! And so is posting information and claiming one designed over another  . Its who ever sells it first and who jumps on the patent (150.00us provisional patent) wins. Good job Walt . I would love to get some of your cells . Also Arranging another persons idea like using salt instead of Windex is a total different invention and you can say without a doubt that it is yours . Mark train wrote books . made money but he did not creat the words he just rearranged them same with john bedini , he didn't invent wire ,coils or transistors yet be patented his rearrangement of already available parts .

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Re: the majos differences of my AG-Cells
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2009, 06:13:51 PM »
Love of money, root of all evil.