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b_rads

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #255 on: February 23, 2011, 04:13:10 PM »
Bizzy and others.
Just a thought  :-\ Bizzy, your batteries are somewhat different than what lasersaber started this thread with and my builds are definately straying off course from the original copper/zinc/tap water thread I have been posting in.  How about you starting a new thread?  Maybe "DIY galvanic batteries" or "activated carbon batteries" or something similar.  Again - just a thought.

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #256 on: February 23, 2011, 04:17:19 PM »
My interest in this is a humanatarian project a friend of mine is helping out with in Africa...long story but what we develop here could be very helpfull

Mark
I can think of no better reason to be here. Cheers!  I am honored to exchange ideas with you.
Brad S

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #257 on: February 23, 2011, 04:17:26 PM »
Bizzy and others.
Just a thought  :-\ Bizzy, your batteries are somewhat different than what lasersaber started this thread with and my builds are definately straying off course from the original copper/zinc/tap water thread I have been posting in.  How about you starting a new thread?  Maybe "DIY galvanic batteries" or "activated carbon batteries" or something similar.  Again - just a thought.
Hi Brad
I thought about the same thing :)  "DIY- non acid carbon batteries". However I am not sure how to start a new thread. If anyone else does.
Please let me know and I can do that.
Thanks
Bizzy

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #258 on: February 23, 2011, 04:19:47 PM »
Also many thanks to Pirate (Bill)
he has been an inspiration for many years and has a practicle common sense approach to his projects.
I remeber reading somewhere about the amount of mag that would be consumed vs amount of electricity produced. Will try and dig it up.

I am thinking also of using mag tubing inside as it will be easily replaceable if they need to be serviced. This is also lends it self to village enviroments as it requires low tech manufacturing techniques.
Many thanks once again.....ps can we have a sneak at your original amp readings...knowing that they may be wrong and what did you use as a load
Mark


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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #259 on: February 23, 2011, 04:20:41 PM »
Hi Brad
I thought about the same thing :)  "DIY- non acid carbon batteries". However I am not sure how to start a new thread. If anyone else does.
Please let me know and I can do that.
Thanks
Bizzy
I like the title.  I to do not know how to start a new thread.  Someone help us please.

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #260 on: February 23, 2011, 04:22:57 PM »
@Bizzy
Many thanks and look forward to the results. The next thing is to see how long the Mag rod holds up. Thats why I will build some.

@B_Rads
many thanks for your posts. I looked at my wine rack and is sadly depleted. I often make wine with the local Italian community (and grappa he he) We have many fine wines down here in Australia.

My interest in this is a humanatarian project a friend of mine is helping out with in Africa...long story but what we develop here could be very helpfull

Mark
Hi Mark
Wow I am humbled that my lowly hobby of tinkering would be so usefull. Honestly very humble and with new purpose.
I agree the magnesium longevity is a big factor as well.
It is my goal once I get them working to simply make another cell but not use it, while the others are in operation. that way I have a standard to compare the working models to.
My wife and I make wine out of most anything, tomatoes, onions(very good as a maranade) honey, rice, apples, pears strawberries, elderberries, raspberries and grapes, we grow most of our own ingrediants.
Bizzy

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #261 on: February 23, 2011, 04:29:27 PM »
@Bizzy
Off topic..I might email you. I had a few attemps at making wines out of mangoes etc...lets say not the best results. Might get a few tips of you oneday. When we make the wine out of grapes we use only natural fermentation no yeasts added or anything. To say the least the vintage each year is hit or miss. However if its a miss makes for good feed stock for the grappa.
Anyway its 2:30 am must go to be and I hope to make some useful contributions to the battery project.
mark

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #262 on: February 23, 2011, 04:46:28 PM »

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #264 on: February 23, 2011, 07:19:11 PM »
New topic started here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10426.msg275841#new

As requested.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10426.msg275841#new

@ Mark:

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Bill
« Last Edit: February 24, 2011, 01:33:44 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #265 on: February 23, 2011, 07:20:35 PM »
Sorry, the link is not working...I will fix it after work.  IN the meantime, you can find it in the forum section under other new battery systems.

Bill

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #266 on: February 23, 2011, 08:43:05 PM »
Hi Guruji
Actually the wire is incerted into the carbon parallel to the magnesium rod. The reason for this test was just to compare a wire versus copper tubing for electricity production. Since I didn't use a JT for the tubing I didn't use one for the wire either.
Do you have a schematic for the stingo circuit?
Thanks
Bizzy

Hi Bizzy yes I am sending you the schematic it's easy to build.

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #267 on: February 24, 2011, 01:36:09 AM »
Link is fixed now in my earlier post. Use the second link.  For some reason unknown to me, I had to have 2 links, if I remove either one, the second link will not work and neither will the first.....very strange.

Bill

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #268 on: November 03, 2011, 06:40:03 AM »
Hello everone. My first post here on overunity. I'm new to battery construction but I find it interesting and relaxing to fiddle with.

I'm quite versed and have much experience in building other apparatus such as large pulse discharge electromagnetic accelerators and was a Tesla coil nut back in the 90's running pole pigs hand made caps of various types, including oil filled caps. Medium experimenter size Marx generators (20in. sparks) Cockroft Walton generators and of course lasers of all types. List goes on won't bore you with that.

Anyway, I first saw Lasersaber's large unique battery on youtube which he rated at 1 Amp or so output. I recreated the design to the "T". Same parts same supplier and I've read this thread but I don't see any recreation of his design that verifies the output. the reason I'm asking is because I've done some relatively extensive experimentation on the exact design using high salt concentrations of different types, both wet and dry. At this time I'm intentionally growing salt crystals over the cell. Just messing around with that. Anywhooo the output is nothing near 1 amp. I get 10's of milliamps unfortunately. I'm at a loss where his electrical current figure comes from. I'm hoping it's not based on a peak waveform generated by a joulthief. If that's the case the youtube vid is misleading.

Any thought would be appreciated.

Thank you
Dave

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Re: Working Air Battery
« Reply #269 on: November 03, 2011, 11:12:50 AM »
@AL Electro

What size carbon rod are you using?  You should be getting at least 500 mA if you are using a 4" by 12 inch carbon rod and a full roll of Mag ribbon.  Did you watch this video?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx_wjlMO3OI  Do not put it in oil if you are going for amps!

Hope this info helps.