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Westland

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Motor/Generator combination
« on: June 03, 2010, 06:30:23 PM »
I am starting this thread because at one time there was an individual who actually manufactured (on a very small scale) motors that also worked as generators. You would pull a rope like a lawnmower starter to start the motor, and then it would generate power plus the electricity needed to keep the electric motor going. I have some thoughts on this as well as some other things I have run across that I want to make sure I share with others.

Here is a link to a video of a motor that also acts as a generator. It is definitely NOT overunity, but hey, we have to start somewhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjdWXwpip3k&feature
« Last Edit: June 03, 2010, 10:34:54 PM by Westland »

markdansie

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 07:36:02 PM »
Thanks westland , I think what i saw on your video was facinating. You have made reference to the motor generator in other posts that was sold many years ago. Do you recall what it was called? We might be able to hunt one down
Kind Regards
Mark

Westland

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 09:35:29 PM »
John Bedini talks about it in the "Energy From the Vaccuum" series part 14. It was called the Lockridge device. It was (according to John) sold to people to use as a power supply when they went camping. It only put out about 300 watts, and was built from an alternator. It used primitive, home made capacitors to store the charge it produced. John shows a replication of one in the video, but it doesn't work and is not really even put together. The brushes it used were specially modified and when they wore out, people replaced them with standard brushes and then the devices no longer worked.

I am interested because of what happened to me. I had a small 12 volt electric motor that also used brushes. I was using the circuit I demonstrated in the video with the motor in place of the coil. So not only did I have the mechanical energy of the motor, but IT PRODUCED A CHARGE. I had it hooked up to all kinds of stuff! Then suddenly it stopped working. And has not worked since. Nor has any other motor I have tried. But that's why I feel like this is "a" correct direction to look.

z.monkey

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 10:31:56 PM »
Any regular DC motor will work as a generator, its called a Dynamo.

Modern motors are "brushless" and have transistors to actuate the field coil.  They do not generate electricity, and you can burn out the transistors trying.  But if you can find some surplus old school DC Motors with brushes, then you can generate electricity wit them...

Scroll down to Dynamo...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_generator

Westland

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 10:50:38 PM »
I understand that. Put electricity into the two wires, it turns the shaft. Turn the shaft and the two wires produce electricity. The goal is to build a motor that runs on electricity it produces itself. Or a generator that produces enough electricity to run itself PLUS other devices. And if you are going to say it can't be done, it already HAS been done, and we have lost that technology. It was called the Lockridge device. Not just one was made. Many of them were made and sold here in the U.S. I am talking about trying to rediscover that technology

Westland

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 12:50:05 AM »
Oh, the original device was a modified Bosch alternator I believe.

markdansie

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 04:55:41 AM »
@Westland,
I was pleased to see that you always keep your prototypes.
one theory why yours and the other device that was around a dew years ao may have stopped working is bcause the magnets either degaused or developd a memory. It just a long shot.
The device (we should give it a name) did it have ab attery in the loop or could it just self run on its own?
The orginal device that has been refered too (post WW2) it would be good to get hold of one if they existed. The reson I say that is we ca replicate what is there. Often with devices such as these a lot of mythology builds up around them.
Anyway just some thoughts. It might be good to revist your original device.
mark

Westland

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 04:35:16 PM »
John Bedini has the only known existing device, but one actually exists. It is NOT running at this time.  I understand Peter Lindemann will be detailing the schematics of this device at the conference next weekend. For info on that, check out:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6516-renaissance-november-workshop-convention.html

If you're not there, you should be!
Since I am attending the conference, maybe I will have some things to report.

FatBird

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Re: Motor/Generator combination
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 06:33:37 PM »
If you do a search on Ebay for Electric Scooter Motor, you will find oodles of Motors that have Brushes.

Plus, they act as Generators when the shaft is rotated.


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