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Sorcerer

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Does this thing actually work?
« on: May 31, 2010, 03:10:47 PM »


I recently received the following in my email:
http://p1.fr/magnetic-work

I am not here to promote anyone's merchandise. I simply want to know if this is genuine, or is it a scam? 

gauschor

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 04:04:31 PM »
Scam

Sorcerer

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 05:33:06 PM »
Scam
Thank you for your reply.
I'm not saying your wrong, and more than likely you are right, but do you have any verifiable info that proves it is a scam? I like to review info of this nature myself.   

e2matrix

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 06:19:24 PM »
It's a known scam for the most part using other peoples work on the Internet to make something sound possible.  Search on one of the rapidshare search engines and you'll find the same plans they use for this.  Someone who bought them was apparently mad they were worthless and put them on rapidshare.  See the same thing on fleabay too.  Don't waste a penny on it.  There's a lot more possible with things being discussed on this forum. 

gyulasun

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 10:20:31 PM »

Hi Folks,

I think that focusing on only the video referred to in the above link is not at all a 100% whether it is a scam.

The video speaks about EBM and Mr Szabo who patented and manufactures generators claimed and measured to give excess electricity and heat.
Here is the patent link:

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=CA2131961&F=0

and some more info: http://www.rexresearch.com/szabo/szabo.htm

I thought I mention this though I do not know for certain if the generators of Mr Szabo really produce excess energy, this is what they claim and already they have sold some. IF their generators do not produce any excess energy, then probably the investors and/ or buyers would have done legal actions against Mr Szabo, but his company has been known to exists for many years now. This is their home page: http://www.gammamanager.com/index.html
Just thought to give this info for those interested.

Thanks,  Gyula

Sprocket

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 11:46:23 PM »
This video must be at least 4-5 years old, but I'd be surprised if Mr Sazbo's generator didn't work given its size - 15 metric tonnes!  You don't build something like that for kicks!

And it wouldn't surprise me either if the electric companies have been using these for years while we pay for their free electricity through the nose, as the 'scam' promo site states...

What is less than impressive is the excess power generated by Sazbo's 15 tonner - only 15kW.  And his video states that commercial units would be 100 tonnes, so it's not something us little guys need to worry about building.  Steven Mark's TPU would appear slightly more efficient! :)

Gwandau

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 01:05:12 AM »
Is there anyone who has studied the EBM patent description?

These guys are manipulating the behavior of the magnetic flux pattern of their strangely shaped electromagnetic stators in an intriguing way.

There must be several of you guys at this formidable forum that has the capacity and knowledge to make an in depth evaluation of
what this concept is all about, and tell us other your opinion.

Of course I´ll read it through myself and try to get the idea, but I am fairly convinced some of you guys here experimenting with all kinds of circuits are
much more reliable in understanding the supposed over unity trick of this device.

Gwandau



e2matrix

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 01:54:27 AM »
Unfortunately what the web site referred to in the OP's post is selling is the same thing all these Magniwork related sites are selling.  I've seen the document and it's not worth a penny IMO.  They show video's on the ad page of other peoples work totally unrelated to what they are actually selling.  So while the EBM in the video on that page probably has something worth while the web site selling this info has basically taken that video just for the purpose of selling his nonsense.  And I'll bet they did not even get permission for using that video or pic.  So I still say what is being sold on that site is worthless. 
I'll bet this is what you'll get if you buy it :
http://rapidshare.com/files/257983705/Magnetic_Energy_-_Free_Energy.rar

I could be wrong but it sure looks like just a variation on the Magniwork web sites.  It has the format of the super duper  snake oil salesman seller common to the get-rich-quick schemes all over the Internet. 

   I've seen the EBM stuff long ago and would sure like to see it available for home use but like so many magnet motor generators we see (Lutec and many others over the years) they never seem to get into production.  I'm guessing they are held off by big money, PTB or threats.  That may change before long but I'm fairly sure this web site is not going to sell you anything worthwhile. 

FatBird

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Re: Does this thing actually work?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 04:26:25 PM »
It's a scam.

BUT, if you want to buy a copy for $3 (instead of $47), just buy it on Ebay.

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