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Author Topic: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review  (Read 12043 times)

Offline FreeEnergy

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escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« on: May 22, 2010, 09:10:07 PM »
escaping the magnetic sticky spot using leverage + kinetic momentum that builds up in the smot.

will it work?
« Last Edit: May 22, 2010, 10:18:29 PM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 10:09:09 PM »
made a small change to my drawing which makes a big difference in the performance of this system i think.

the above attachment has been replaced. please review it.

thanks  :)

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 10:20:24 PM »
sorry but i made another small change to my drawing. this should be the last time i make any more changes. please review above image.

- now i can go to sleep. only a few hours before i wake up to go to work, 4 hours that is. sometimes i lose sleep because of this stuff! good night.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 10:20:24 PM »
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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 12:18:37 AM »
No it won't work, there is the sticky point in the gap

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 03:30:20 AM »
Direction of rotation??

What makes  it rotate?

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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 06:06:40 AM »
Direction of rotation??

What makes  it rotate?

the magnet on the lever is attracted to the outside magnets (the circuler smot) causing the lever to rotate. by the time the magnet on the lever reaches the last magnet on the smot there is kinetic momentum built up and hopefully the lever should have enought leverage to escape the last magnet which has the most attraction. then the process repeats itself.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 06:37:34 AM »
here is an example of a magnetic sticky spot. except this guy uses electromagnetism to escape the sticky spot.
while i use a lever to escape the sticky spot (lock-up point).  :)

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
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Offline The Eskimo Quinn

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 12:15:06 AM »
The sticky spot can be beaten by the mayernik array, no need for opinions or theory, there are heaps of videos, the mayernick is the only smot ever to do the loop vertically it is that powerful, watch all the vids in order.

http://archurian.com/gpage.html

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 02:23:11 AM »
In theory, the sticky spot can be cancelled out by means of electromagnetism.
It has to be done in a way that only attraction or repulsion is the result so that the motor runs away.

I have tried several setups but i did not get it to work properly.

However, and you could pay some attention to this, i have used two magnets on one axis, and they were arranged so that when one magnet was at the sticky spot, the other pulled it through, the result was no sticky spots because the two magnets were cancelling out each others sticky spot.

So the result was a motor that had no sticky spots and it ran quite well, but i never took it to a higher level.
I switched over to plasma research.

But I still think it can be done.
I only make this post in the hope it inspires others.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 11:04:23 AM »
@XS-NRG

Perhaps you could do some doodle drawing in MS Paint to roughly show your setup with the two magnets on one axis...
Then others here can carry on from the level you have already reached.

Unless you wish to patent it....

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 03:18:38 PM »
hello gyulasun

No patents.
What i mean is best explained by using stepper motors.
They have designed sticky spots and are quite powerfull.
The sticky spots give the motor a lot of resistance when it is turned, so we will remove them.

You need two do do this.
Take them apart and put the two rotors on one axis like shown below.
Now you adjust the "magnetic timing" for i have no other name, in a way that when the first rotor is at the sticky spot, the second is in the pull or push area.

The result will be a very smooth rotation and a double output when used as a dynamo.
Now it is easy to rotate the dual rotor motor because one rotor pulles the other over the sticky spot on the same axis.

Here are some pic's to go with the idea.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 05:47:13 PM »
But this won't give you free energy as you don't get rid of the sticky spot.
You just have two spots overlapping each other. Been there, done that.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 07:38:53 PM »
Who said anything about free energy?
This thread is about escaping the sticky spot and it certainly does that.

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2010, 07:43:51 PM »
hello gyulasun

No patents.
What i mean is best explained by using stepper motors.
They have designed sticky spots and are quite powerfull.
The sticky spots give the motor a lot of resistance when it is turned, so we will remove them.

You need two do do this.
Take them apart and put the two rotors on one axis like shown below.
Now you adjust the "magnetic timing" for i have no other name, in a way that when the first rotor is at the sticky spot, the second is in the pull or push area.

The result will be a very smooth rotation and a double output when used as a dynamo.
Now it is easy to rotate the dual rotor motor because one rotor pulles the other over the sticky spot on the same axis.

Here are some pic's to go with the idea.

Hi XS-NRG,

Well, it seems a good idea indeed to double the flux and get rid of the magnetic cogging of a stepper motor by "piggy-back" two of them. 

Would like to show you an interesting suggestion here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5890.0 

Maybe it is worth studying.

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: escaping sticky spot in a magnet motor - review
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2010, 09:54:04 PM »
escaping the magnetic sticky spot using leverage + kinetic momentum that builds up in the smot.

will it work?

Very nice idea...but I think you need to follow all the forces.

I have also given much thought to the idea of using leverage to overcome these sticky spots .   Two points I want to make.   


The magnetic field strength of magnets toward each other drops/increases exponentially over distance.  It has been shown to be true for repulsion as well as attraction of two magnets with minor difference. This needs to be taken in to consideration with respect to levers.  Only a short distance of moving a stator may be all that is needed to overcome the sticky spot.       

For a lever:

The force applied (at end points of the lever) is proportional to the ratio of the length of the lever arm measured between the fulcrum (pivoting point) and application point of the force applied at each end of the lever.
 

I beleive these two facts need to be worked together to achieve possible OU with respect to an all magnetic motor.   

My best...

Bill

 

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