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Title: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: infringer on May 15, 2010, 08:24:51 AM
I find this rather odd...

CIA stops a scientist from working with the orion project...

Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 15, 2010, 01:54:01 PM

Quote from the 'Orion Project' site:

" In the event that anything happens to any of us (injury, false legal charges, disappearance, death), and we cannot go forward, copies of this information will be released to the public. The file includes every bit of information about the scientists who can do this work and are not allowed to as well as very reliable evidence and information about those involved in the suppression - names, addresses, phone numbers, specific details of actions."

Then, I would NOW would be the time to release the info.

Why are they not doing this ?

Frankly, I do not trust Greer...I view him as a gatekeeper at best - a paid disinfo agent at worst.

In either case the fact he hasn't open sourced info that likely would be all that is needed by the freelancers on this and other alternative energy experimenters, to build reproducible working units.


Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: Cloxxki on May 15, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
Their stories are so nice and sleek, yet so incredibly vague and non-saying.
If they are the good guys, they know how to present themselves as misinformation agents. Like they are they ones who'll save the earth, s others don't need to bother starting anything of such vast proportion. They got this.
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 16, 2010, 05:13:11 AM

Yes slippery slick... and they can talk about funding this and that all day...and do.

But the telling thing is, they haven't 'open sourced' what they have already gathered, so people around here can get on with it.


Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: infringer on May 16, 2010, 05:47:03 AM
I agree but we need people like this if we are to get to the bottom of anything I am sorry but I gladly donated to the cause look at all the guy pushes for release of info and so on about ufo's and also pushing free energy weather he has found nothing or not I cant say we here have either but he is a good public spokesman and at worse he is on our side in search of the same answers weather he tries to gain money from it or not it don't matter to me and there is tons of misinformation here on this website if you ask me but it takes radical thinking to come up with radical things...

I hardly call him the bad guy ...
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: chessnyt on May 16, 2010, 07:42:25 AM
I believe the real problem is the fact that there are NO secure protocols in place regarding operational procedures.  The Orion Project is not the only entity with operational flaws.  For example; this site ( has a section (forum board) that inventors are supposed to announce that they have an OU device that qualifies them for the prize money being offered by Stefan.  Is Stefan a disinfo agent?  I would have to say no, yet anyone who posts anything on this site is easily traceable by the CIA, for one, who in turn has their IP addresses and MAC numbers as soon as they post anything here.  It’s like waiting by the white sheet with the bright light behind it at night to catch moths.  The people they are trying to locate, track and suppress come right to them.

Patents are yet another trap that inventors fall into giving even greater details of their intentions via their inventions while naming all the inventors involved along with their physical addresses and phone numbers.

Phones are no better and are tapped secretly at will by a whole host of various government agencies here in the U.S.  FAXes are also easily intercepted as well.   

A better protocol for inventors to use would be the postal service, believe it or not.  The best would be 7 layer data encryption or better but then Stefan would have to post the results after a winner was first verified by him privately.  For now, a P.O. Box would be better for entries for the overunity prize.  I don’t mean just mailing the device but corresponding with Stefan first through the P.O. address to announce their entry before mailing the device.

The Orion Project is also similarly flawed concerning their telephone communications.  It’s not hard for me to believe their phone lines are tapped and recorded as they are just another white sheet with a bright light behind it.  I’ll bet they are a goldmine for the CIA to both identify and trace scientists who are capable of divulging overunity technology.   
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: Nadda on May 21, 2010, 07:03:39 AM
The news from the orion project does seem odd. I personally think greer is on the good side and is trying to release overunity. i've watched hours and hours of him taking interviews, giving interviews, and just talking to his friends and he has remained consistent with everything he says.

Excellent post chessnyt,

Even with the lack of physical proof of suppression you simply cannot deny the facts. They have unlimited money and power, thats fact. Take this forum for example. Imagine "Joe" an engineer here finally made the ultimate break through and indeed posted the diagram open source. With the integration of 1,000 connected computers an agency could brute force hack the administration account of this website and delete everything Joe posted as well as any backup logs saved server side. Record joe's ip which is automatically saved here, and have a local agent from Murder Inc. dispatched to his house. Within Minutes.

Weather that would ever happen or has ever happened, we will never know. Can it happen? Absolutly.
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: mangyhyena on July 25, 2010, 06:18:03 AM
I think Greer is one of the good guys.  I never had a doubt his Orion project would be suppressed.  Just look at the history of free energy suppression.

Greer's mistake was to publicly attempt to produce a free energy device with the intention of making money via a patent.

If you want different results then you've got to try something different.  Open sourcing free energy is the right way to go, IMHO.  But you've got to be smart and you've got to be slick about it. 

Ideally, if you invent a working free energy device you will provide a parts list, blueprints, and assembly instructions.  You will video it in operation without a shroud and video the building process, along with an explanation of why it works.  You would drop the documents and videos on the web from an internet cafe and you would make hard copies of your documents and put the videos on a disc and proceed to give them away face to face, encouraging the recipients to photocopy the documents and copy the videos and give those away to family and friends.  In this way you could give the elites a fatal virus that would kill them within fifty years.

One nice thing about this place is that there are so many new ideas posted each day about free energy devices that screening each and every member here would be a nightmare.  How would they know which members are onto something and which are well-intentioned, but completely wrong about their proposed machines?  Heck, lots of would-be inventors lie about their machine's success.  How would those watching know which are which?
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: rave154 on July 25, 2010, 02:33:46 PM

i tend to agree with you, part dis-info agent, part gatekeeper..and in my view...part entreupenuer ( spelling ).....ive always wondered....after he & his wife gave up their medical careers to pursue the "ufo thing" full do they pay for their groceries??????
Title: Re: CIA puts a stop to the orion project???????
Post by: The Observer on July 25, 2010, 04:33:19 PM

I believe he still owns the successful Clinic/Hospital, although some money may come from the UFO watching groups he hosts.
Never-the-less, after watching many hours of this man speak... I lay odds that his passion for UFOs/Free Energy is Genuine.

Best Regards,
                        The Observer