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Author Topic: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay  (Read 39044 times)

Online lancaIV

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2006, 10:14:19 PM »
Visit the depatisnet.com-page
-enter "Recherche"
-"Einsteiger"(first modus)
and introduce the publication codes

Sincerely
            de Lanca

p.s.: actually the main interest should be easy replication
       (like "Rapid Prototyping")
       and the approvement of rotatoric OU-concepts,
       by combination of OU-motor concepts with conventional
       generator/alternator

       Other,"simple",concepts:,

       BE879579 Buyst              BE=Belgium Patent Office
       BE754918 Vercruyssen
       BE879579 P.J.Hendriks
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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2007, 10:35:27 PM »
I see everybody talks and nobody works .

That's why we are where we are, waiting for others to do the job for you is going to take you nowhere.
 
 So I will take the lead on this one.

This is one of my many other projects, but they are my own inventions I have at least 3 forms of achieving permanent magnets to spin with no problem ,yet to be build, nonetheless the little tests prove they work .but yet to be finished and be exposed to skeptics trying to take the credit after it works?, that's a punch not willing to take from cynical lazy people......it take years to figure out this stuff.

 But some of you deserve to know more. so here we are

stop arguing and start building.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2007, 05:59:26 PM »
I agree. I am tired of reading theories and skeptics and non experiential thoughts. There are hundreds of pages of that. I am in the process of attemting a replication of Torbays device. I will upload pictures and possibly video(if I am far enaough) tomorrow.
In the meantime here is an explanation of my build and experience so far. For those interested.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2007, 06:49:32 PM »
I see everybody talks and nobody works .

That's why we are where we are, waiting for others to do the job for you is going to take you nowhere.
 
 So I will take the lead on this one.

This is one of my many other projects, but they are my own inventions I have at least 3 forms of achieving permanent magnets to spin with no problem ,yet to be build, nonetheless the little tests prove they work .but yet to be finished and be exposed to skeptics trying to take the credit after it works?, that's a punch not willing to take from cynical lazy people......it take years to figure out this stuff.

 But some of you deserve to know more. so here we are

stop arguing and start building.

...and what is the video tell us? i'm not sceptic, just curious :)

Br.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2007, 03:12:16 PM »
Hello,
As stated here are some images of the components I am building. Any questions I am happy to answer. I only have one stator fixed in position so far. I need to be more precise with the pivot arm. I have simply pushed a nail through and they aren't always very straight. I have manually held 3 other stators in place and the rotation did cause this stator to lift and the rotor continue past the raised stator.

I won't be posting agin for the week but I hope by next weekend to have something I can video. Whether successful or not.

Hammertime - emitremmaH
« Last Edit: May 20, 2007, 04:00:16 PM by emitremmah »

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2007, 03:12:16 PM »
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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2007, 09:16:53 PM »
Hello,
As stated here are some images of the components I am building. Any questions I am happy to answer. I only have one stator fixed in position so far. I need to be more precise with the pivot arm. I have simply pushed a nail through and they aren't always very straight. I have manually held 3 other stators in place and the rotation did cause this stator to lift and the rotor continue past the raised stator.

I won't be posting agin for the week but I hope by next weekend to have something I can video. Whether successful or not.

Hammertime - emitremmaH
The wood you're using looks like balsa or similar. Is that right? - ok, an off topic question...but I'm building model air planes once in a while :)

The magnet #1, is that suppose to lift up or down to avoid the sticky point?
How much energy is needed to lift that magnet away compared to the rotating energy produced in one revolution of the rotor?
The magnet on the opposite side, is also hinged - it looks like that anyway. What purpose have that hinge?

What if you make two devices placed upon each other, linked and working in parallel, but 180 degrees off so you can cancel out the sticky point by adding an opposite sticky (Repel instead of attract) point elsewhere at the same timing? Then you are left with the forces which is not opposite of each other - the rotating forces....probably ( ??? )

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2007, 11:46:21 PM »
Yes the wood I am using is Balsa Wood. Light but sturdy and non metalic.
All will eventually have hinges. Only the one on the right is completed.
In this configuration the magnets move up though moving down should also work.
One key is to balance the pivot so minimal work is required to move the magnet out of the flux path.

I am sticking with the video design first. Under the KISS principle.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2007, 04:33:22 PM »
Here are some videos of where I am at. I had to get a drill press to put in some straight hole through the frames and blocks.

3 videos.
The first video shows how the stators are lifted as the rotor turns.
The 2nd video shows how when properly balanced the stators will lift themselves at the end of the magnetic arcs. 2 of the stators are still to out of balance.
The 3rd video shows how the magnetic force causes enough rotational energy to lift one stator and almost the second stator.

I am working on the lid which will prevent the stators from lifting to high and also apply the pressure to put the stators back into the magnetic flux field. I probably won't finish it tomorrow but in another week or 2 I should have more to update.

« Last Edit: May 27, 2007, 05:36:23 PM by emitremmah »

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2007, 09:43:37 PM »
Well done,
please keep trying and let us know, what you will
find out, when you have added the top lid.
Many thanks for the videos.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2007, 03:03:46 PM »
Here are some videos of where I am at. I had to get a drill press to put in some straight hole through the frames and blocks.

3 videos.
The first video shows how the stators are lifted as the rotor turns.
The 2nd video shows how when properly balanced the stators will lift themselves at the end of the magnetic arcs. 2 of the stators are still to out of balance.
The 3rd video shows how the magnetic force causes enough rotational energy to lift one stator and almost the second stator.
I am working on the lid which will prevent the stators from lifting to high and also apply the pressure to put the stators back into the magnetic flux field. I probably won't finish it tomorrow but in another week or 2 I should have more to update.



In bold: This is quite essential to achieve to make this device to work. Nice videos! :)

Br.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2007, 03:57:00 PM »
I am discovering some interesting things.
1) it seems the only important magnets are the ones at the end of the arc. No additional rotational force seems to be added by increasing the number of magnets along the rotor segment.
2) From 1 it seems that the stators need to be raised for a longer period then I first assumed.
3) If looking at a clock, rotor going counter clockwise. Rotor arc lead is A tail is B.
stators at 12 and 1 o'Clock will push on B with enough force allow rotor to travel from 12 to 6 oclock and lift stator. Addition of stators at 11,10,9,8,7 do not seem to improve the rotational momentum/force and may actual hinder it.
4) Dropping stator between A and B just before B seems to be the timing I need to get right.
5) I can get the second stator to rise by ensuring stators are locked in a down position in the right configuration but can't move fast enough to lock down the next required stator to keep things going by hand.
6) The lid is proving more complicated to make out of junk than I expected.

I will post more videos here and on youtube this week showing what I mean
« Last Edit: May 31, 2007, 01:31:31 AM by emitremmah »

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2007, 03:14:08 PM »
I have posted a new video on youtube.(Save you some space Stephan :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6fKG1aB4bs
Not very important, it just shows the construction of the stator. Mainly for documentation purposes.

It seems in my configuration that 7 stators is better than 8. As in the original Torbay video.
To check the balance of the system I use 2 stators side by side. The end of the arc at the right most stator traveling from right to left will cause the rotor to go around with enough momenetum/force to lift the stator on the right. Adjustment of the balance of the stator and placement to the rotor is adjusted until this works. Then I move one location to the left. Now using the second of the original 2 stators and the next in line. adjusting until the first stator is lifted. I perform this all the way around. I then test 4 stators at a time and ensure that 2 stators get lifted at a time. This is very time consuming and because I am using such a loose setup is a bit troublesome.
The stators occassionally become unstuck from the mounting tape and I then have to realign a start again.
3 stators will result in the same
4 stators and the rotation will lift 2 of the stators.
I have used a heptagon to create the template for the 7 sides around the rotor.
I thought I had a video of this but it ran our of memory. Before I realised it I started putting on the lid - height restrictor - which isn't transparent so now when testing it is hard to see anything.

My lid is dragging on the stator supports so I am now cutting notches in the supports to allow the lid to rotate without friction. I am also not happy with the movement of some of the stators. I still believe what I have will either offer enough hope that I will now have the templates to build completely out of transparent materials or give this device a no go.
 

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2007, 03:48:09 PM »
I finally got Virtual Dub from SourceForge and can shrink the size of my videos.
The original was 30Mb this one is less than 2Mb.
Here is a much smaller sized one that shows that 2 stator can lift 1 stator.
Later this week I will post 4 stators lifting 2 also so getting more than 1 stator lifting is not a problem.

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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2007, 03:07:58 PM »
I seem to be the only one working on this any more. Perhaps I should finishing reading Argentinian motor part 2. I don't think people concluded it to be a dud. And the only guy who said he got it to work never came back.

Anyway here is the next video showing that with 4 stators down the rotational force is sufficient to lift the first 2 of the 4 stators. It actually has enough force to slightly raise the 3rd. I am hoping that this exess energy will be enough to lower a stator instead. I have created a lid for this but my double sided tapes have all lost thier stickyness and the stator won't stay in place very long so I have to keep resetting thier positions. Very painful and time consuming. The lid I have right now also has far to much drag to be usefull. Just pieces of cardboard that drags on the stators when they are raised.

It is time for me to actually mill the base for the stators and to strength the rigidity of the stators. This will take the long weekend coming up. In the meantime. Enjoy this little show. My camera only takes decent resolution for 90 secs so I have to keep these short.

Hammertime


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Re: Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2007, 07:19:09 PM »
Hey emitermmah.

I think your arrangement has more potential than all the other replications and experiments shown here so far. 

If you look up my own experiment and conclusions you'll see where I stand on the subject of the Torbay motor (might be better if you don't).  That said, I am genuinely hoping you'll be able to follow through with your good work so far. 

If I were to make one suggestion it would be to hold off on milling the base and strengthening the stators until you've experimented with a better top-lid.  This is just to save you unecessary work, as working out the top-hat first will sort of make or break the project.  You should be able to get something working with the base and stator arrangement as it is, or not at all.  That's just my opinion based on what I can see from this distance, don't let it stop you from doing what you've got to do.

Les.   

 

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