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Title: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 04, 2006, 04:22:18 AM
look at this and tell me what you think (need help finishing it please) this system with only one of each component would be around three feet in length add one foot per additional component. the transmission/rpm booster i added will need customised to work with this system. (ill work on this customasation tonight in addition i will be adding a few balanced weights between each component..... but for now...... here it is)



here is my magnetically assited motor driven self powered inline generator w/ transmission/rpm booster

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 04, 2006, 04:25:52 AM
i forgot to mention i am in the porcess of creating a frictionless bearing for this project. i will be willing to give half of the credit to what ever person helps me the most in my designs. (credit being the name of the machine i guess since patents and such are mostly pointless anymore) so if you would like to see the paschal- (your name here) machine a reallity then lend a hand! :)
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 04, 2006, 05:34:32 AM
here is the frictionless bearing i promissed it took two hours to complete. give me some input on it will ya. :)
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 04, 2006, 06:06:10 AM
does anyone have a simplefied/or not schematic of the internal working of a 12v(input) electric motor. actually any motor under 5 hp would work really. i need to study it and see what i can do to finish this project.
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: dracozny on April 08, 2006, 01:42:15 AM
one problem with your frictionless bearing is when you install it into a motor the weight of the stator and the constant vibrations of the motor as it rotates will add friction to the bearing.
there are many frictionless bearings that compensate for this usually by using sensors and an electromagnet as well as a monitoring circuit.
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 03:32:17 AM
based on my calcutations the bearing should be capable of supporting up to at LEAST 30 lbs. the weight requirement of this machine is far less than that per component. the vibrations however are a facter that i did not include, but can be kept to a minimum with balances weights and/or just good building within the machine. the force between the two magnets is great especially this close together. the metalic coating is key especially because of the emount of force pushing out, threatening to tear the bearing to shreds. technically the inner serfaces will never touch. under the currect usage of course. the use of any electronic devices in this design would damage the productiveness of the machine.

i am not saying this machine is garantied to work. i am only trying to put ideas in your heads. mostly that just because one theory or concept did not work does not mean that it can not. by combining one or more technique or concept one can easely create one of these machines.

techniques/designs/concepts included in my design are:
1) balanced weight - harmonic balance = to stabalize and reduce vibration and help continue earned momentum in down times.
2) light weight motor = to maintain (not drive) speed of device for generative purposes
3) high output low contact/friction generator = to produce power to motor and/or external
4) transmission - to increase rpm and torque of motor so that less electricity is needed to power the machine
5) frictionless bearing = to decrease friction within the machine and gain back lost rpm/power/momentum

thanks for your input,

danny

p.s. has anyone tested this yet?
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 03:37:16 AM
i forgot to mention

6) the magnetic assist = the entire point in the magnetic motor is not to drive the device, but to take off some of the pressure from the electric motor. also to lighten it's load, thus requiring less electricity to power it.

the entire focus of this design is to use as little power as possable in driving the generator. let me know if you have any additional ideas that would accomplish this.

and if you still think that the frictionlass bearing still will not work please give me more details on why. (not to prove anything, just so i can fix it)

thanks alot,

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 03:40:11 AM
the only use for the electric motor is to get the magnetic motor past its sticky spots. wich is why i say that it is not to "drive" the motor. just to "maintain speed"

thanks again,

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: dracozny on April 08, 2006, 04:28:52 AM
there are many versions of functioning magnetic motor with an electric kick stator to keep it from getting stuck.
there is even a japaneese motor which i have not heard news from in some time with a similar concept they even attached a generator which caused the system to be 80% overunity but the claim was not substatiated.
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 06:09:57 AM
ok, i have no idea whats out there really i just started this area of study (energy production and manipulation) and am just trying to get my ideas out there before i lose my mind to the coffee....... (30 pots in one week has got to do something to the brain :) )

so basically your saying it's been done. cool well at least i know im on the right path.

what i like about this system is that is is multimodular and can be customised to fit any aplication. add more generators for more output and more motors for power to drive bigger generators kinda thing

thanks for you responce

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: lancaIV on April 08, 2006, 06:34:32 AM
Ernie Esters:Dynamoelectric modules US4233532
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Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 06:49:49 AM
sorry delanca i dont follow... what is that?

:)
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: lancaIV on April 08, 2006, 06:55:10 AM
This is a simple principle of motor or generator( DC or AC) manufactoring !!!?
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p.s.:About your"TWIN TOWER..."question,silverdragonrs/danny, I recommend you really the
? ? ? Kango IIda Hydraulik Converter publication and instead of the wheels
? ? ? imagine the use of motors !!!

     And you have to "accept" coffee as"ELIXIER"!!!
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 07:06:10 AM
i am sorry de lanca i don't understand what us4233532 is is that a patent number or something? if so where can i find it?.

as to the twin towers motor what weels? im not looking at it right now but i don't remember putting weels in it.. or are you refering to wheels in the "kango IIda hydraulik converter publication" if so i don't know what that is....

i am really sorry for all the questions but as ive stated i am new to this field of study and do not know what all is out there.

thanks

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: lancaIV on April 08, 2006, 07:19:40 AM
So let me give you a step-by-step "lection":
this are WIPO(PATENT) numbers,
the full data can be received through several patent office-webpages
for example "depatisnet.com/Recherche/Einsteiger/Patent code".

The Kango IIda invention (US4464095) shows(theoretical!!) the effect of the combination
from clock-/counterclockwise rotational wheels with an amplifying effect !!!
This is logical,energy is not destroyable !ERGO ???
I only recommend you to imagine the change of wheels through motors !

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 07:36:27 AM
de lanca

please lets continue descussion on twin motor in the twin thread for organization sake. i think you have mistaken the settup. which is my own fault for drawing it in mspaint (to lazy to use bryce and its way to time consuming)

thanks,
danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 08, 2006, 07:39:49 AM
and please just popping in and giving a patent number is very confusing to everyone. are you posting this patent number because what i have done has already been done? or is it something to help develope the device? what? what information am i supposed to gather from the patent? i gather that you may not speak very good english and that is fine. say it in your native language and i'll find somebody to translate it :).

thanks

danny
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: dracozny on April 09, 2006, 04:27:16 AM
i think the language barrier and maybe a lil mis understanding of your descryption was the effecto a a race car driver hitting the wall at 300 MPH!

i think lancaIV is trying to say look up the pattent (you can probably google it)
now in the patent apparently wheels are used what is being suggested is make the wheels in the patent a motor.

this may be comparable to your theory and maybe of benefit? (I would not know since i have not looked at the patent)
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2006, 04:55:24 AM
Thank you,dracozny
but I do not think that there is a language barrier,
I think his translatory velocity to convert virtual2solid and solid2virtual states
is slower than exspected/estimated !!!

Danny,is "english/anglo-saxonic" really your mother language ?
It does? not seem Oxford/Cambridge style compatibel !
I have learned this language ,too !
But during the morning hours my concentration is more subject orientated
and not the right orthography as main target !!!

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca

 p.s.: Danny,probably you want to resolve energy-related situations/problems,
        then you will get from my side the right substantial links,
        but you have to use all common mutimedia-tools,
        also patent-archive-information and simulating-CAD-software !
       
         
Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: silverdragonrs on April 19, 2006, 03:34:45 AM
sorry on reading the last post i made i realise it came off rude... I was not intending any insult. I am simply having trouble understanding your posts delanca... sorry. it may be on my end as i do not know many of the terms that you are using. simple things like leaving out an or, is, to, or something simple adds to the confusion. I am not trying to insult anyone. I just wanted to understand what information i was to gather from the patent as I do not have any technical training/knowledge. I still have not gotten to veiwing the patent but 99% of the time the wording is more than I can handle. I understand visuals and such, and could study such a document to find the purpose and so on but it just seems so much simpler to ask "what are you saying". You are obviously an intelligent person. I am not insulting you by asking you to say something in a native language only attempting to find a solution to a problem. Sometimes we all tend to overcomplicate things. i will take a few minutes now to look for the patent you have pointed out and try to figure out what it is that you are trying to point out. my only request is that in the future you make your point and not just give a reference. i like your input. I just don't always understand it.

as for my motor here - this was just to show that no idea is a dead idea. by combining a few such "almost working" ideas we could very easily create a self powered generator. The design I show just shows that a modular system may solve many problems with such systems. by adding a small motor with a magnetic assist or a magnetic motor with a mechanical asist to a transmission to increase output of sade pairing you would create more than enough selfpowered physical energy/rpm/torque to power a generator. One aditional benefit is that a modular system can be added onto to gain more power at less cost per module.

as to my magnetic/frictionless bearing nastrand and I have been working together and I believe we have worked out most of the bugs with the design. this bearing is not something that could be created at home and would require advanced machining to put together. BUT so far all the math adds up.

in response to one of your earlier remarks draco the vibrations of the motor would actually help the bearing more than hurt. the only problem that we have yet to figure is the life span of a bearing under our new design. as soon as i can draw our new design up I will post it.

thanks/sorry,
danny

Title: Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
Post by: SNoNo on May 29, 2006, 12:20:08 PM
Silverdragonrs, i think those want overunity, want it for mankind.
Like us, you have to inform you to do a better work.

You got some ideas, but not yet the knowledge, you have to be patient.

Since few years, im founding files on web, P2P, forums about Free Energy.
Now i have 20' DVD of data, i just read 0.5% and i can tell you there is so many things to know that you should start very soon.

SNoNo