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silverdragonrs

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magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« on: April 04, 2006, 04:22:18 AM »
look at this and tell me what you think (need help finishing it please) this system with only one of each component would be around three feet in length add one foot per additional component. the transmission/rpm booster i added will need customised to work with this system. (ill work on this customasation tonight in addition i will be adding a few balanced weights between each component..... but for now...... here it is)



here is my magnetically assited motor driven self powered inline generator w/ transmission/rpm booster

danny

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2006, 04:25:52 AM »
i forgot to mention i am in the porcess of creating a frictionless bearing for this project. i will be willing to give half of the credit to what ever person helps me the most in my designs. (credit being the name of the machine i guess since patents and such are mostly pointless anymore) so if you would like to see the paschal- (your name here) machine a reallity then lend a hand! :)

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2006, 05:34:32 AM »
here is the frictionless bearing i promissed it took two hours to complete. give me some input on it will ya. :)

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2006, 06:06:10 AM »
does anyone have a simplefied/or not schematic of the internal working of a 12v(input) electric motor. actually any motor under 5 hp would work really. i need to study it and see what i can do to finish this project.

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2006, 01:42:15 AM »
one problem with your frictionless bearing is when you install it into a motor the weight of the stator and the constant vibrations of the motor as it rotates will add friction to the bearing.
there are many frictionless bearings that compensate for this usually by using sensors and an electromagnet as well as a monitoring circuit.

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2006, 03:32:17 AM »
based on my calcutations the bearing should be capable of supporting up to at LEAST 30 lbs. the weight requirement of this machine is far less than that per component. the vibrations however are a facter that i did not include, but can be kept to a minimum with balances weights and/or just good building within the machine. the force between the two magnets is great especially this close together. the metalic coating is key especially because of the emount of force pushing out, threatening to tear the bearing to shreds. technically the inner serfaces will never touch. under the currect usage of course. the use of any electronic devices in this design would damage the productiveness of the machine.

i am not saying this machine is garantied to work. i am only trying to put ideas in your heads. mostly that just because one theory or concept did not work does not mean that it can not. by combining one or more technique or concept one can easely create one of these machines.

techniques/designs/concepts included in my design are:
1) balanced weight - harmonic balance = to stabalize and reduce vibration and help continue earned momentum in down times.
2) light weight motor = to maintain (not drive) speed of device for generative purposes
3) high output low contact/friction generator = to produce power to motor and/or external
4) transmission - to increase rpm and torque of motor so that less electricity is needed to power the machine
5) frictionless bearing = to decrease friction within the machine and gain back lost rpm/power/momentum

thanks for your input,

danny

p.s. has anyone tested this yet?

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2006, 03:37:16 AM »
i forgot to mention

6) the magnetic assist = the entire point in the magnetic motor is not to drive the device, but to take off some of the pressure from the electric motor. also to lighten it's load, thus requiring less electricity to power it.

the entire focus of this design is to use as little power as possable in driving the generator. let me know if you have any additional ideas that would accomplish this.

and if you still think that the frictionlass bearing still will not work please give me more details on why. (not to prove anything, just so i can fix it)

thanks alot,

danny

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2006, 03:40:11 AM »
the only use for the electric motor is to get the magnetic motor past its sticky spots. wich is why i say that it is not to "drive" the motor. just to "maintain speed"

thanks again,

danny

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 04:28:52 AM »
there are many versions of functioning magnetic motor with an electric kick stator to keep it from getting stuck.
there is even a japaneese motor which i have not heard news from in some time with a similar concept they even attached a generator which caused the system to be 80% overunity but the claim was not substatiated.

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 06:09:57 AM »
ok, i have no idea whats out there really i just started this area of study (energy production and manipulation) and am just trying to get my ideas out there before i lose my mind to the coffee....... (30 pots in one week has got to do something to the brain :) )

so basically your saying it's been done. cool well at least i know im on the right path.

what i like about this system is that is is multimodular and can be customised to fit any aplication. add more generators for more output and more motors for power to drive bigger generators kinda thing

thanks for you responce

danny

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2006, 06:34:32 AM »
Ernie Esters:Dynamoelectric modules US4233532
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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2006, 06:49:49 AM »
sorry delanca i dont follow... what is that?

:)

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2006, 06:55:10 AM »
This is a simple principle of motor or generator( DC or AC) manufactoring !!!?
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p.s.:About your"TWIN TOWER..."question,silverdragonrs/danny, I recommend you really the
? ? ? Kango IIda Hydraulik Converter publication and instead of the wheels
? ? ? imagine the use of motors !!!

     And you have to "accept" coffee as"ELIXIER"!!!
« Last Edit: April 08, 2006, 07:08:37 AM by lancaIV »

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2006, 07:06:10 AM »
i am sorry de lanca i don't understand what us4233532 is is that a patent number or something? if so where can i find it?.

as to the twin towers motor what weels? im not looking at it right now but i don't remember putting weels in it.. or are you refering to wheels in the "kango IIda hydraulik converter publication" if so i don't know what that is....

i am really sorry for all the questions but as ive stated i am new to this field of study and do not know what all is out there.

thanks

danny

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Re: magnet to generator to motor to transmission "generator"
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2006, 07:19:40 AM »
So let me give you a step-by-step "lection":
this are WIPO(PATENT) numbers,
the full data can be received through several patent office-webpages
for example "depatisnet.com/Recherche/Einsteiger/Patent code".

The Kango IIda invention (US4464095) shows(theoretical!!) the effect of the combination
from clock-/counterclockwise rotational wheels with an amplifying effect !!!
This is logical,energy is not destroyable !ERGO ???
I only recommend you to imagine the change of wheels through motors !

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca