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Author Topic: Gulf Oil Spill - new record  (Read 29769 times)

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2010, 02:01:58 AM »
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o.Experience is a dear teacher...but fools will learn by no other.
o.Intelligence means acting ahead of problems, not during them.
o.Democracy means acting during problems, not never acting.
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2010, 11:22:23 PM »
So, really this is a BP triggered volcano eruption, right? We get some oil, but a bit more of something else.
Perfect way to raise prices for OTHER oil being drilled. And killing lots of life.

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2010, 12:46:38 AM »
So, really this is a BP triggered A eruption, right? We get some oil, but a bit more of something else.
Perfect way to raise prices for OTHER oil being drilled. And killing lots of life.
I didn't take this seriously until I found this article:

http://www.marum.de/en/Asphalt_volcano_discovered.html

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2010, 12:46:38 AM »
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2010, 02:52:19 AM »
Guess they didn't like the bandwidth...
(The link is already dead)

Is this the correct link ?

http://www.marum.de/en/Asphalt_Volcanoes.html

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2010, 02:52:56 AM »
Deleted duplicate, server errors...

I have always wondered this,
why can't we delete posts entirely?

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2010, 02:52:56 AM »
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2010, 04:05:47 AM »
This oil spill may bring about a paradigm shift in the hearts and minds of already capable people who might actually start to help us with our OSFE quest.  Winning the OU Prize would be a silver lining to this growing dark oil cloud.  We can hope...

Could this be it?
Quote from: POTUS
8:12 p.m. ET: For decades, efforts toward a more progressive energy policy have been blocked, he says. "We cannot consign our children to this future," he says. "The time to embrace a clean energy future is now."

8:13 p.m. ET: He calls for a national movement to embrace a new energy policy for the country. "The tragedy unfolding on our coast is the most painful and powerful reminder yet that the time to embrace a clean energy future is now."

8:14 p.m. ET: Calls on the people to "seize the moment." There are "some who believe we cannot afford" a new policy. But he says it will create jobs and grow the economy in the future. It's time to end "our addiction to fossil fuels."

8: 16 pm. ET: He says he will not tolerate inaction on this front.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/06/obama-speaks-from-the-oval-office-on-the-oil-spill/1

We shall see...

EDIT: Hey Obama, give Steven Mark a call.  I'll hold my breath and wait.  ::)
« Last Edit: June 16, 2010, 04:30:19 AM by Rosphere »

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2010, 09:00:23 AM »
Perhaps this is yet another approach on the "tax-them-for-SOMEthing" scheme.

They tried global warming, that didn't fly, people started thinking.
So, they'll make a big mess, to engage people in worrying about their planet. Tax payers are bound to pay, somehow.

Based on prior research I saw quoted, drilling in that particular area of the Gulf cannot be done safely, due to mud volcano activity.
RED oil smearing wildlife washing on the coast? Name one red oil disaster prior to this one. And why can't we get to the coast to properly document? The US gov says BP has been naughty, right? Right? Right...

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
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Offline sparks

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2010, 01:26:32 PM »
    If all they have to do is handle what I see on the government mandated tv then why dont they just lower a large steel inverted funnel over it and stop fucking around.  The probable answer is that they arent into transporting this volume of polluted crude.  The seawater in the product is problematic.  You cant just pump it into the still you have to pretreat it.  I doubt such a facility even exists to handle this kind of volume.

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2010, 02:18:58 PM »
    If all they have to do is handle what I see on the government mandated tv then why dont they just lower a large steel inverted funnel over it and stop fucking around.  The probable answer is that they arent into transporting this volume of polluted crude.  The seawater in the product is problematic.  You cant just pump it into the still you have to pretreat it.  I doubt such a facility even exists to handle this kind of volume.
If it is a volcano pressing from under the whatever-it-is stream of material...no bucket is going to be heavy enough to keep it contained. A matter of waiting until the pressure equalized.
Don't forget the pressure the ocean is already exerting at the depth.

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2010, 02:18:58 PM »
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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2010, 09:34:25 PM »
http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=2&aid=184196

The estimators have increased the minimum amount from 798,000 gals./day to what you see now.  I prefer the estimate:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/12/bp-oil-spill-gulf-mexico
~= 1,600,000 gals./day
--Lee
That was before I saw this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_spill_flow

You might adjust the real time meter on the first line above to this initial reading:  2,500,000 gals./day

--Lee

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2010, 10:38:19 PM »
Just look at the pretty colored oil coming out of that well now.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/multimedia/multicam/

Thank you NALCO  >:(

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
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Offline Rosphere

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2010, 04:21:20 AM »
How much would it cost to anchor three large floats about a thousand yards away from one another, in a triangle pattern, centered on the leaking well head.  Then, lower a large sock around the three anchor cables stretching from the surface down towards the sea floor, (given the right material for the job.)

This large vertical column would naturally separate and contain the oil for loading directly onto tankers on the surface.

A large dome might also be constructed, later, to capture the gas as well.

If only my one small voice could be heard.  :(

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2010, 05:21:14 AM »
The planet is broken...
This disaster in the same time frame as 2012, and the technology mentioned in Revelation, Koreans going at it, Iran and Israel going at it...
Guess who's coming to dinner?
Every eye shall see, every knee shall bow. Not being religious here. I already know the ending to this horror story. ' read the book...
Alot of people are going to very happy when the Referee blows the whistle, e'r I mean horn.

And there's always the Jihad cleanup crew for those who don't want to leave the field.


How much would it cost to anchor three large floats about a thousand yards away from one another, in a triangle pattern, centered on the leaking well head.  Then, lower a large sock around the three anchor cables stretching from the surface down towards the sea floor, (given the right material for the job.)

This large vertical column would naturally separate and contain the oil for loading directly onto tankers on the surface.

A large dome might also be constructed, later, to capture the gas as well.

If only my one small voice could be heard.  :(

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2010, 05:52:58 AM »
Those big brained BP bastards should have made a sarcophagus to lower right over that pipe. From day one, it should have been ready to deploy. The broken pipe is 21" in diameter and at 70,000 PSI and 60,000 BPD, the sarcophagus only needs 14 pipe manifolds to then provide a 5,000 PSI feed pressure to each. It's called Laminar Flow and these guys should have done this from day one. Stupid shmucks thinking they will close that pipe just wasted the Gulf away. Fuck.

I just cannot believe that this is real. Those second and third wells they are doing are not going to do anything. Each will get over 20,000 PSI and blow again. Bravo Man. What a farce.

Just take any oil land tank, cut the bottom and put some manifolds then put it on a barge and lower it on the fuckin pipe with six winches. Big deal. Should not have taken more then 5 days to do. Then have 14 pumps working day in day out. Then tell the refineries in the Gulf to empty their lands tanks and accept no more imported oil. They will have to refine this oil until everything is under control.

Who the fuck is running that show anyways. Why does he not have enough brains to do this. I don't know. But just wait when this oil hits other countries and they see nothing being accomplished. Man, shit will hit the fan very soon.

We better take some yoga classes to be flexible enough to bend over and kiss our asses good-bye.

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Re: Gulf Oil Spill - new record
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2010, 05:57:48 AM »
The more I learn,
The sicker I get!

It isn't the mile down that is the worst part
They dug 4.5 miles into the earth through
so many mantle sections they are now fucked.

The pressure of what they tapped
has destroyed most of the drill feed.

That means that the insidiously high pressures
are now levelling into the higher strata now.

All of those higher and lesser pressure levels
are being super-pressurized by the below stuff.

those are causing a volcano mount a full
mile and a half wide to form on the gulf's sea bottom.

By the time you've read this
most likely two miles wide.

THEY CANNOT BLOCK THE PIPE NOW !

To do so would be sure suicide,
but then again two extra relief wells
is equally insane if they aren't shallow taps.

I mean that if they are trying to adjunct the current "Hole"
at a shallow depth to siphon of most of the oil, then OK.

If those idiots at BP
are making two more
deep well pimples,
we are so fucking doomed!

Just the entire federal blockage
on any and all camera coverage
is making me nervous actually.

There arresting anyone with a camera!

Only step left is martial law.

I'm not real familiar with the interviewer,
but the interviewee is the real deal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv0xgnPQWYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_7PVOB3l1Y

You decide ...

 

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