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Author Topic: What about this video?  (Read 5055 times)

Offline Rapadura

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What about this video?
« on: May 01, 2010, 03:25:24 AM »

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cDtpbjvTc

Is there any thread here at Overunity.com about this video?

I'm trying to understand why he didn't build a closed loop system with that...


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What about this video?
« on: May 01, 2010, 03:25:24 AM »

Offline Rapadura

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 03:32:59 AM »
As you can see, the rotor magnet passes along the stator magnet, and is not attracted back to the stator magnet, it simply stops at an angle from the stator magnet that is greater than the angle of the initial position.

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In fact, I don't know if there is a rotor magnet. That thing on the rotor maybe don't be a magnet, but just an piece of iron or other metal.
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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 03:55:56 AM »
Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cDtpbjvTc

Is there any thread here at Overunity.com about this video?

I'm trying to understand why he didn't build a closed loop system with that...

Clanzer is a good guy but you are wasting your precious time on something that doesn't work.

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 03:55:56 AM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 04:05:45 AM »
How could this not work??? The rotor passes through the sticky spot and is not attracted back!!



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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 10:23:14 AM »
How could this not work??? The rotor passes through the sticky spot and is not attracted back!!

@Rapadura:  Don't give up on this idea.  I think this can be made to work.

It looks like ClanZer is using another stator magnet to break the attraction force of the rotor magnet after it runs past the first stator, which is similar to what I've been working on.  His method is more elegant and less complicated than mine.

I really don't see why this technique can't work with the proper alignment and precession.  I actually lost my breath earlier when one of my rotors made one complete turn under it's own power before coming to a stop (the other rotor didn't make it).  I don't think my bottom and top rotor magnets are far enough away from each other.  I'm currently using 2 parallel rotors with 3 magnets on each rotor along with 1 stator for each rotor (one stator for the bottom rotor and another stator for the top rotor).  The bottom stator will break the attraction force of the top rotor while the top stator will break the attraction force of the bottom rotor.

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 10:23:14 AM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 02:57:09 PM »
@gravityblock: I like the idea of using multiple stators too. I think that if you have 3 "working stators" at the exact time when there is a single stator stuck at the sticky spot, the 3 working stators can "win the battle" against the "stuck stator". Next week I'll be receiving my first neodymium magnets that I bought last week, and make some tests.

BUT, in this specific video that I posted in the first post of this thread, I confess that I only see one stator.

Are you seeing another stator? I only realize that stator at the right.

I wonder what would be an offset center magnet that is refered to in the video description...

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 04:03:03 PM »
Look at this:

http://www.A.com/watch?v=M9cDtpbjvTc

Is there any thread here at Overunity.com about this video?

I'm trying to understand why he didn't build a closed loop system with that...
It clearly rotates backwards again, so there is a sticky spot - however not where the stator magnet is located. Look at the initial position and the position where the rotor find its equilibrium. There is a clear connection bewteen those locations. Not suprisingly the rotor stops because it require more energy to move the wheel all the way around. I have said it before: Magnets are static, they do not contribute to any excess work without degaussing. Magnets which cannot degauss, cannot deliver energy. How many proofs do we have to see before we believe in this obvious fact?


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Re: What about this video?
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 09:34:49 PM »
Since the rotor magnet wasn't attracted back to the stator magnet, and stopped at some distance from the stator magnet, there's no sticky spot (or the rotor could overcome the sticky spot).

If there was another stator at the other side of the rotor, the rotor could make a complet turn.



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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2010, 09:41:43 PM »
BUT, in this specific video that I posted in the first post of this thread, I confess that I only see one stator.

Are you seeing another stator? I only realize that stator at the right.

I wonder what would be an offset center magnet that is refered to in the video description...

Pause the video at 4 seconds, then enlarge the video to full screen.  On the top of the shaft there appears to be two stators which are 180 o to each other (the rotor spins below the top stators on the shaft).  The rotor will first interact with the stator on the shaft, then as the rotor begins to pass this stator on the shaft it will interact with the offset stator magnet that is not mounted to the shaft.

LowQ says the wheel spins backwards, but he is overlooking the fact that when the rotor gets to the other side there is another stator located on the shaft which repels the rotor backwards because it has no offset magnet on that side to interact with, probably due to it being a work in progress which was incomplete at the time of the video.  I assume ClanZer didn't leave this build incomplete and was unable to close the loop with an additional rotor magnet and an additional offset stator magnet due to the way they would all be interacting together.

In my setup, one rotor will get past all of the sticky spots and will make one complete turn while the other rotor stops at the last sticky spot.  I think the top stator is slightly repelling the bottom rotor magnet and the bottom stator is slightly repelling the top rotor magnet which is working against the system.  I need to move them further away from each other.

Interesting stuff !

GB

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Re: What about this video?
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Re: What about this video?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2010, 11:58:02 AM »
Since the rotor A wasn't attracted back to the stator A, and stopped at some distance from the stator A, there's no sticky spot (or the rotor could overcome the sticky spot).

If there was another stator at the other side of the rotor, the rotor could make a complet turn.
It is not that easy, I'm afraid. First of all I do think that the guy had placed another magnet there already if it was that simple to make a complete turn - even a OU device. If you place one more magnet there, this magnet will affect the rotormagnet. What probably will happen is that the rotor magnet makes only a quarter of a round before it stops. A second stator magnet will affect how the rotor magnet will behave in the first half round, and therefor alter the conditions in the whole setup in an inproperiate way. Magnets cannot do work as long the potential energy in them doesn't change. That is the only fact we know for sure and that has been prooven numberless of times, over and over again.

EDIT: What he could do however, was to place another wheel somewhere its not affected by the present setup. Let's say he make an axle on the present setup, and make a copy of that setup somewhere far from the present setup, 180 degrees ofset. This way a second stator and rotor magnet will be in a different setup, not affected by the first one.

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