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Title: Water coil in magnetic generator
Post by: Dobermann on April 07, 2005, 07:27:19 AM
Hi all,

Just found the link
The site itself contains many ideas about water splitting, properties, etc., but mostly theoretical :)
Site root

Now brief desctription of idea from first link.

1) The one suggests to make some kind of water solenoid "coil" - by replacing the regular wire coil with coil of thin plastic pipe filled with h2so4 (or other) electrolitic solution.

2) Place the permanent magnet on one axle with dc motor inside the coil and spin to generate emf in surrounding coil.

Here are the questions:

1) What about back-emf in such system ? Will it make any resistance for dc motor if we take some electricity from "generator" water coil (the coil contains regular metal electrodes on its endings of course). I think that there should be back-emf effect but I confused with water conductors ???

2) If the emf generated in this water coil - AC electrolysis should take place. How this electrolysis agrees with energy conservation law ? We have the H2 and O2 on exit along with AC electricity - but place some DC to spinning motor (which possible counterforced by back-emf.

Very interested in your opinions  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Water coil in magnetic generator
Post by: fleebell on April 07, 2005, 10:38:18 AM
I am curious about what would happen if you just connected the ends of the coil so there was a continious circuit of liquid with no electrodes in the way. Would you get? electrolysis due to the "heavy" short circuit current flow? or would it just cause the liquid to heat? up?? or would it do anything? hmmmm ... Gonna have to get some small tubing and tinker a bit to answer this question.? I don't see why you couldn't just wrap it around an iron core and use it like a regular coil in a generator setup instead of putting the motor inside of it though if you used some really small tubing. I guess there would have to be some sort of balance between tube size and resistance though. I don't think you will get away from the back emf, as I understand it, that is caused by the current flow and not the type of conductor.? (If I'm wrong on that I'm sure someone will jump in here and say so.)

Lee B (
Title: Re: Water coil in magnetic generator
Post by: terry5732 on May 03, 2005, 08:21:18 PM
It seems to me that the better the conductor, the more magnetism produced. I made a coil of stainless steel wire and could barely deflect a compass. But it was also hard to induce a current in the coil with a strong magnet. I think the magneto-electric properties are related to conductivity, thus a solution with minimal conductivity (relative to say copper) would produce little electricity.

I recall a claim of mercury flowing in a tube being OU about 20 years ago in Israel. Haven't heard anymore since.