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Author Topic: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !  (Read 281016 times)

Offline markdansie

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #285 on: June 08, 2010, 12:20:16 AM »
@Nick the virtual cowboy,
sadly many of your comments are true. i have assembled many a testing team and the results to date are at this stage close to zero.
However many ideas are worth pursuing and to many this is a hobby and the site is often very entertaining. I personally like the diversity of views and opinions including people like yourself.
Where I disagree is not everyone is working with fridge magnets and tin cans. many people her are qualified scientists and many are well educated and resourced with great equipment. Does free energy exist? I cant answer that but its just as just as bad to assume it doesn't as it does.
many people here specialise in differed areas and I have come to meet many over the years. They are good people and in my opinion doing worthy work. Sharing failures as well as successes is a good way for all of us to progress.
I wish you well on your en devours and perhaps you would be kind enough to share your work and ideas with some of us.
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #286 on: June 08, 2010, 10:31:11 AM »
@A the virtual cowboy,
sadly many of your comments are true. i have assembled many a testing team and the results to date are at this stage close to zero.
However many ideas are worth pursuing and to many this is a hobby and the site is often very entertaining. I personally like the diversity of views and opinions including people like yourself.
Where I disagree is not everyone is working with fridge magnets and tin cans. many people her are qualified scientists and many are well educated and resourced with great equipment. Does free energy exist? I cant answer that but its just as just as bad to assume it doesn't as it does.
many people here specialise in differed areas and I have come to meet many over the years. They are good people and in my opinion doing worthy work. Sharing failures as well as successes is a good way for all of us to progress.
I wish you well on your en devours and perhaps you would be kind enough to share your work and ideas with some of us.
Kind Regards
Mark

Hi Mark, and thx for the candid respoponse,  must say I agree w/ you. There are some serious people. Does "Free energy" exist ? All enrgy is free or not depending on how you cost it, in monetary terms. Matter is a transient state of energy (Bang Bang Bang, another virtual cowboy bites the dust), just a question of finding the right process. Which doesn't mean baked bean tins and fridge mags. Ref grav motion, cyclic and self sustaining it's a very distinct possibility, though there again there is a little more to it than sticking a load of ball bearings trundling round in a load of slots on a plyboard disk, then saying you need a ferris wheel with 1000 kgs weights trundling around and with a bicycle dynamo and you're gonna save humanity  :( This type of gizmo is called the "Moron wheel". More on one side, and invariably the wrong side.

Sure, I'll share, but private mail.

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #287 on: June 08, 2010, 04:30:13 PM »
Because Sushimoto, I work on grav and effects of motion devices, and don't need a team of experts. Either it works, or it don't. Come on, seriously, you guys have been every month announcing major Nooooo breakthrus in the fields of Tesla ZPE with magnets and hocus pocus from aliens crashed at Roswell for the past three decades. Where are all them gizmos I see announced imminent everywhere here which I just stick in my car and it runs on water or magnets, the small black box which is going to power a whole town ?

Virtual cowboys ? How did ya guess dude ? Doesn't yawl know I might be gonna get out my ZPE magnotronic virtual peashooter (investors encouraged) and start loosing off the rounds of kryptonite bullits ?

If you have any perspective, you can only agree with me, too many "revolutionnary noo tech made from salvaged baked bean tins and fridge magnets", and no results whatsoever. None. Zilch. Nada.
Hasta la vista anyway, and keep getting excited about ZPE (sounds like a STD)  ::)

Hi Nick,
its good to see that you have a good sense of humor.
And in addition to that, you are right when talking about ZPE.

I personally dont look too desperately for "Free-energy"
but rather for effi-sciency. Most of the debates here are very much
underunity in terms of communication. Most people are just looking for
getting something for free. Like free-beer or so.
Science is not free or even to get at a no-budget level.

As markdansie mentioned, please share with the right people.

best, sushi


« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 06:51:52 PM by sushimoto »

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #287 on: June 08, 2010, 04:30:13 PM »
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Offline kallstrom_74

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #288 on: June 15, 2010, 10:29:10 PM »
any news about this buzz about antoncells and overunity? anyone else got any overunity of this? or is it a hoax?

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #289 on: June 16, 2010, 01:55:21 AM »
any news about this A about antoncells and overunity? anyone else got any overunity of this? or is it a hoax?

It's not because it doesn't work and isn't replicable because of not being workable that a device or experiment is necessarily a fraud. In this field almost all claims are due to overexcitement, bad or non existent measurements...

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« Reply #289 on: June 16, 2010, 01:55:21 AM »
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Offline CompuTutor

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #290 on: June 16, 2010, 02:48:10 AM »
Stefan posted links April 25, 2010,
if we haven't heard more by now....

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #291 on: June 16, 2010, 10:26:10 AM »
Hi,
what do you expect?
The System is still up and running.

They are evaluating many more possibilities with HHO and other stuff.
The motor was just one of them. If you watch the channel,
you will see that there are more experiments on the list of "effisciency".
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia

Best,
sushi


Stefan posted links April 25, 2010,
if we haven't heard more by now....

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #291 on: June 16, 2010, 10:26:10 AM »
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Offline nicbordeaux

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #292 on: June 16, 2010, 10:58:30 PM »
Hi,
what do you expect?
The System is still up and running.

They are A many more possibilities with HHO and other stuff.
The motor was just one of them. If you watch the channel,
you will see that there are more experiments on the list of "effisciency".
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia

Best,
sushi

Forgive my ignorance, I'm nooo to this field, except for some small knowlege of nickel plating kits for DIY use...

What has been the research so far on redox w/o external applied voltage, worked both ways (transfer one way, then the other, or anode/cathode reversal) in a closed environment? If the right compounds / mediums have been found what is the efficiency of a full cycle ? Or to put that diferently, how long could a e.c. reaction last ?

Or if  v is created by a chemical reaction as in batteries, electrochemical reaction, what attempts have been made to restore potential through similar "reversal" or even introduction of another compound, or just addition of the more depleted compound ?

There must be a thread here about the perfect, self perpetuating anode/cathode/electrolytic solution ?  ;)

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #293 on: June 17, 2010, 07:16:42 AM »
Hi,
what do you expect?
The System is still up and running.

Thank you for the link,
here are their uploads:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia#p/u

Now,
except for work on spark plugs
in the middle of the air (only).

The only vid of the genset
is a month old like the rest.

How is it your so sure
it is still running fine?

There are no followup videos
or any other proof this works.

Nothing personal,
but I think your
your running on faith.

Thats not a bad thing...

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #293 on: June 17, 2010, 07:16:42 AM »
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Offline sushimoto

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #294 on: June 17, 2010, 11:42:35 AM »
Thank you for the link,
here are their uploads:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia#p/u

Now,
except for work on spark plugs
in the middle of the air (only).

The only vid of the genset
is a month old like the rest.

How is it your so sure
it is still running fine?

There are no followup videos
or any other proof this works.

Nothing personal,
but I think your
your running on faith.

Thats not a bad thing...

Hi CompuTutor,
yepp, "Faith" is not a bad thing.
Without faith, you dont need to get up in the morning.

But in the case of making "fire" from electricity,
it not a bad thing to research on HHO
because has none of the "side-effects" of conventional carbon-based fuels.
No pollution, no tinkering with the planet and no catastrophic
consequences as seen on tv.
As long as mankind is using fire and burning stuff,
HHO and its derivates is the first choice because its
absolutely neutral to the environment.
No matter if a system is "Overunity" or not,
i am happy with "Unity".

Is there any other possibility to produce your own fuel
"on-demand" and "on-site"?

Maybe this Community desperately searching for
"free energy" instead of efficency is the wrong place for me?

"free beer" is spilling out of the gulf of mexico and the
world gets its bill right now.


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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #295 on: June 23, 2010, 12:15:00 AM »
Hi CompuTutor,
yepp, "A" is not a bad thing.
Without faith, you dont need to get up in the morning.

But in the case of making "fire" from electricity,
it not a bad thing to research on HHO
because has none of the "side-effects" of conventional carbon-based fuels.
No pollution, no tinkering with the planet and no catastrophic
consequences as A.
As long as mankind is using fire and burning stuff,
HHO and its derivates is the first choice because its
absolutely neutral to the environment.
No matter if a system is "Overunity" or not,
i am happy with "Unity".

Is there any other possibility to produce your own fuel
"on-demand" and "on-site"?

Maybe this A desperately searching for
"free energy" instead of efficency is the wrong place for me?

"free beer" is spilling out of the gulf of mexico and the
world gets its bill right now.

The search for efficiency is paramount, just take a gasoline engine's efficiency, don't let anybody tell you all that lost heat can't be at least 50% recovered. The quest for new sources of energy or new ways of harnessing energy is also important, even if a lot of people are confused about you have to use baked bean tins and magnets  :(

Required reading for anybody who believes we are stuck at the upmost limit of knowledge (and therefore know all) might be Profiles Of The Future by Arthur C. Clarke. In particular pages 18-19 which refer to the utter absurdity of rockets according to most 1920's scientists, who were very dismissive to say the least, and had scientific data to back their argument.
Chapter 5 "Beyond Gravity" is also of interest.

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #295 on: June 23, 2010, 12:15:00 AM »
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Offline gmeast

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #296 on: July 21, 2010, 09:35:40 PM »
The search for efficiency is paramount, just take a gasoline engine's efficiency, don't let anybody tell you all that lost heat can't be at least 50% recovered. The quest for new sources of energy or new ways of harnessing energy is also important, even if a lot of people are confused about you have to use baked bean tins and magnets  :(
...................................


You are so right on the efficiency point !  Having worked on a government-funded adiabatic diesel engine project, I know it is of paramount importance to pursue 'high efficiency'.  In the A-D project we used ceramics to reduce heat loss to the cylinders and head.  In a parallel project we employed both regenerator & recouperator technologies to recover (otherwise) waste exhaust heat.  We had good success with a 6.5 : 1 compression ratio 4-stroke engine wherein the exhaust gas was passed through recoup tubes passing through the combustion chamber ... the low CR being because of the unavoidable dead space resulting from the tubes passing through the head.  But even at the reduced efficiency caused by the low CR, the efficiency GAIN was 25% + because of the new, more sophisticated thermodynamic cycle of the engine.  The next step was to add a turbo charger to offset the CR issue.  The projections from just the recoup config. was enough to suggest this as a good design concept to pursue in a production model. 

The AD required sophisticated materials science to interface the ceramic and metal parts, but the recoup engine required NOTHING NEW (MM&T-wise) just holes, a header, 3/16" x0.010" SS tubing, some vacuum brazing and some good refractory materials (all available & cheap), but none of this fits the current automotive manufacturing/profit models.

However, if you go electric, none of the above matters because you're already at 80% + conversion efficiency and 60% + centralized electrical power generating efficiency ... and that's 48% overall efficiency compared to 23% gasoline engine and 35% - 38% ... maybe 40% for diesel (max for auto-sized diesel & 45% - 50% for large {big, big} truck and marine diesels).

Later,

Greg

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #297 on: July 23, 2010, 01:28:30 AM »
the reasion the egnine takes off so fast is they are feeding way to much gas into the engine a 12v batterys should be the unit makeing the power to produce that gas this could be run from the engine alternater to keep it charged and the high voltage genny part for the lighting lower the gas produced and it wont take off as fast

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #298 on: August 14, 2010, 06:00:17 PM »

New Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSe943wkUfg

He is so close...He now needs to get rid of the small 12VDC ignition power
supply connection. My advice is to use the (now unused) spark magneto
output from the engine and step it down with a second ignition coil.
Then convert and regulate it to 12VDC to power the electronic ignition
circuit. It can't be taking that much current. Then he would have a real
stand alone self running system.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #299 on: August 14, 2010, 07:55:37 PM »
hi

sorry das ich wieder mal welten zerstöre:

fakt

man brauch keine 2. zündspule  , fakt

last da mal

und das was gezeigt wird ist nur ein teil, also bitte.
nicht versuchen  mit unnützen blödsinn die leute in die falsche richtung zu leiten.


reicht das immer noch nicht ?

ihr bastelt und macht nur rafft ihr es nicht,   1 zündspule,  verstellbare zündung und gut ist.


so könnt ihr ja übersetzen oder lasst es sein und schlaft weiter.

echt grausam hier im forum

23.000  mitglieder und kein video von einem stationären wassermotor ?

was ist hier los ? alle angst oder  sucht ihr nur und wenn ihr es gefunden habt sucht ihr weiter.!?

mfg

sente


p.s
gerade die leutz aus den USA , sollten mal wach werden und auf die barrikaden gehn, ihr habt gerade ein netten mann ins weiße haus gewählt.
ein tip von mir , organisiert euch und jagt alle 50 geheimdienste aus dem land oder löst sie auf und konfessiert alle gelder auch die versteckten.
bzw, steckt sie direckt in die gaskammer , oder auf den stuhl.
die verarschen euch seit 70 jahren.


 

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