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Author Topic: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !  (Read 285124 times)

Offline ZathEros

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alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #240 on: May 06, 2010, 07:09:59 PM »
Anton is not the first to create this hardware. The link below is for a company in Tennesee that makes kits. Probably the best I have seen for the money. Smaller size, smaller output- just gang them together to get the flow you need. He also has several videos on youtube.

http://hhodrycells.com/diy_drycell.htm

Also search the torrent sites for " HHO browns gas hydrogen furnace plans"  there is a torrent that has a crude plan for a home heater claimed to heat 1,500 sq ft on ~ 200 watts of power.

Z

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Offline haithar

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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #241 on: May 06, 2010, 07:14:21 PM »
edit: nevermind

Offline sushimoto

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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #242 on: May 06, 2010, 07:29:36 PM »
Anton is not the first to create this hardware. The link below is for a company in Tennesee that makes kits. Probably the best I have seen for the money. Smaller size, smaller output- just gang them together to get the flow you need. He also has several videos on youtube.

http://hhodrycells.com/diy_drycell.htm

Also search the torrent sites for " HHO browns gas hydrogen furnace plans"  there is a torrent that has a crude plan for a home heater claimed to heat 1,500 sq ft on ~ 200 watts of power.

Z

..And where are their videos showing a motor running
or at least some brazing torch?


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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #242 on: May 06, 2010, 07:29:36 PM »
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Offline ZathEros

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Hydrogen furnace plans
« Reply #243 on: May 06, 2010, 07:38:30 PM »
The torrent doesn't appear to work so I found my copy and uploaded it to the files section under the name HHO browns gas hydrogen furnace.

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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #244 on: May 06, 2010, 07:42:37 PM »
..And where are their videos showing a motor running
or at least some brazing torch?

Yes, exactly. Show a video for a motor running & powering the cell in a closed loop   ;)


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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #244 on: May 06, 2010, 07:42:37 PM »
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Offline ZathEros

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Re: alternate sources for HHO generators, Hydrogen furnaces
« Reply #245 on: May 06, 2010, 07:52:16 PM »
..And where are their videos showing a motor running
or at least some brazing torch?

here is a video of their smaller cells producing hho gas and a welding torch burning.  2 small cells running 23 amps producing 3.5 Liters a minute, not bad-

http://www.youtube.com/user/jermy342#p/u/11/VHpEHNtTcyc

There is no video of them running a motor I am just posting the link for an alternative to anton  for the USA folks. Much less expensive.
follow the other youtube links for additional comparisons.
Z

Offline mscoffman

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #246 on: May 07, 2010, 08:15:28 PM »
I seem to be doing this a lot.
Reposting something that Paul-R posted in another thread.

This link is on the Bob Boyce Electrolyser;

"I am not sure that I am right here, but it may be that this is what is
meant:"     http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/D9.pdf

There are quite a few pictures and diagrams that help explain what
goes into making any working electrolyser cell. The different two
electrolytes ect.

It also gives hope for separating drive electronics and using
the power supply with any appropriately sized cell hardware.

I happen to think that there are more then one valid overunity energy
source and some folk want to tie them together to create "secrets".
For example Bedini combines static electricity generation and CF inside
acid/lead storage batteries, the way Boyce combines CF in electrolyser
cells with magnetic overunity in toroidal pulse driver electronics to create
sufficient overunity for his self-running racing boats. So, I assume that
Anton electrolyser hardware could be combined with the appropriate
overunity driver to produce more then overunity energy then is being
shown. I don't like these secrets because they deny others the
understanding about what is going on while they make constructing
these things a high technical chore. I don't mind paying for twenty
of these things to heat my home but if they are not overunity I might
as well be using resistance heating.

By the way I want to say that I appreciate other posters for their
comments and the links provided.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #246 on: May 07, 2010, 08:15:28 PM »
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Offline Rapadura

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #247 on: May 08, 2010, 04:07:45 PM »
Two weeks later....

When will we see another 40 seconds video?   :-\

Offline markdansie

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2010, 11:56:55 PM »
There are at last count dozens of companies proucing HHO cells. Some have ben pperating for near 2 years producing commecial welders, and stoves. Many smaller backyard enterproses also exist some producing good products other junk.
There are also some large companies proucing HHO cells fro the trucking industry some with reasonable results.
What i have seen here is a reasonably proced cell that is about as efficient as many others.
But to claim it is efficient enought to self run an ICE is both false and misleading and seems to be to promote a few sales. You run and ICE you would at least need 5 times whatthey have now and where is the evidence??????. I amhappy to sen some of my team mebers to report back on any demonstration they care to do as a third party collaberation. I have been testing and building these devices for years along with many thousands of others.
So when I ead they have had it run for hours I see an untruth if it cant be substaniated.
One tell tale sign...in the 40 second run ...where did they get the gas to start it????? Was a bateery involved.
I have seen a 300 HP V* run on HHO but after a few minuts the battery went flat. So if it is truly self running, please have the demonstrate it by disconecting the battery after it has started.
The other problem I have they use a couple of lights and drills and claim look 1000 watts. Rubbish

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2010, 11:56:55 PM »
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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #249 on: May 09, 2010, 07:13:37 AM »
There are at last count dozens of companies proucing HHO cells. Some have ben pperating for near 2 years producing commecial welders, and stoves. Many smaller backyard enterproses also exist some producing good products other junk.
There are also some large companies proucing HHO cells fro the trucking industry some with reasonable results.
What i have seen here is a reasonably proced cell that is about as efficient as many others.
But to claim it is efficient enought to self run an ICE is both false and misleading and seems to be to promote a few sales. You run and ICE you would at least need 5 times whatthey have now and where is the evidence??????. I amhappy to sen some of my team mebers to report back on any demonstration they care to do as a third party collaberation. I have been testing and building these devices for years along with many thousands of others.
So when I ead they have had it run for hours I see an untruth if it cant be substaniated.
One tell tale sign...in the 40 second run ...where did they get the gas to start it????? Was a bateery involved.
I have seen a 300 HP V* run on HHO but after a few minuts the battery went flat. So if it is truly self running, please have the demonstrate it by disconecting the battery after it has started.
The other problem I have they use a couple of lights and drills and claim look 1000 watts. Rubbish

The videos are proof that something very unusual and exciting happening with the Anton Cell.

What we know:
- Not OU gas production at 2.5 Wh/L
- Is OU in HHO Gas energy content.

Theories on Anton HHO Gas OU Energy:
- Orthohydrogen has greater energy than Parahydrogen.
- The Anton gas maybe has higher percentage of Orthohydrogen.
- Dr. Moray King's theory of the third gas he calls "Charged water clusters" taps into ZPE.
- Brown's Gas researcher calls this third gas "Electrified water" and can fuel an engine.


More reproductions is needed to verify the Anton cell's OU HHO gas output can power other engines.

This is the first time, on video, of a selfrunning HHO cell powering an engine with extra power for loads.

We all look forward to seeing more on this exciting OU HHO discovery.  :)

Regards, Mike R.

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #250 on: May 10, 2010, 03:45:26 PM »
Hi Mike

there was nothing on the video to suggest it was self running. I think you might find tht the unit to power up the gas to start withwas using a battery or other external power source. There have been many video's made of hho cells running small engines (even arge ones) ovr the years and many dozens of people who have tried it. I ook forward to be made a fool of one day but at this stage no cigar. Do you think they would bject to one of my collegues in Europe dropping by and having a look as an independent hid pary?. if so let me know.
mark

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
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Offline sushimoto

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #251 on: May 10, 2010, 06:32:35 PM »
Why should anbody receive FreeEnergy-tourists
instead of doing serious research?

And where in the world of Youtubby
was a small hho-engine driving a load?

Offline Bentoptics

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #252 on: May 11, 2010, 08:31:19 AM »
@sushimoto
"And where in the world of Youtubby
was a small hho-engine driving a load?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLgv20LEF8

250 watt maybe 500 watt light from a barely running generator all on 14 l min.

Well you did ask.

BentOptics

Offline sushimoto

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #253 on: May 11, 2010, 12:56:34 PM »
Hi Bentoptics,

yes, i've asked and thanks for the answer.

14l/min is much to much gas for the small engine.
It simply cannot "breath" that amount to the regular inlet
without any pressure and an appropriate regulation.
The Anton-ICE injects the gas deeply into the head,
directly to the valve.
That is one of the main-differencies to the (few)
other experimentators with MoGens on YouTubby.

Offline haithar

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Re: Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #254 on: May 11, 2010, 01:45:04 PM »

- Is OU in HHO Gas energy content.

Source pls, would like to read the paper :)

Here's what we really know:
- Engine runs on electrolysed water (H2 and O2)
- The engine keeps on running 40 seconds after the outside power was switched off

Nothing more. It's also only a claim to say that 2.5Wh/l of split water is not overunity, because the material is important in the electrolysis process, only the needed charge is independant of material (although i know this is not "overunity", but i just wished people would be more cautious with their statements)

 

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