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Author Topic: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!  (Read 46878 times)

Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2010, 01:21:21 PM »
If it really is OU as you stubbornly claim then please explain why the ball decreases in speed??
In order to show energy gain, aka OU, then it must increase in speed to show positive forces.
Even if it could be kept in imbalance without energy input it would still decrease due to losses.
But the base line is that you cannot keep the imbalance going without using external energy.
This is not OU. End of discussion. If you keep implying otherwise you're a nutcase.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2010, 01:21:21 PM »

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2010, 03:47:06 PM »
If it really is OU as you stubbornly claim then please explain why the ball decreases in speed??
In order to show energy gain, aka OU, then it must increase in speed to show positive forces.
Even if it could be kept in imbalance without energy input it would still decrease due to losses.
But the base line is that you cannot keep the imbalance going without using external energy.
This is not OU. End of discussion. If you keep implying otherwise you're a nutcase.

there is nothing implied here.
i thoroughly explained how it was "overunity". I gave you the mathematical forumlae, so that you can verify this for yourself. You neglected to do so.

Your assumptions about this subject are incorrect, which i also explained. i.e. the difference between "overunity" and "free energy". 

The energy dissapated by this system is far greater than the energy that is put into it. That by very definition is "overunity".

I ask you this::   Where do the losses come from?
If that much energy can be "lost" without ever putting it into the system to begin with....
How can you honestly make the argument that is it NOT an "overunity" system ??

It is not a "free energy" system. i explained that. If this thread were called "Clanzer can achieve free energy" i would be on the other side of the argument, because he has not demonstrated this. As he himself would surely agree.

You can pout, throw your hands up, call me a nutjob.
But until you are willing to perform the calculations for yourself
or at the very least, present a logical argument to support your
statements......    all you are doing is pulling strings off the cheese.








Offline Hugo Chavez

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2010, 04:22:16 PM »
lol... can you say delusional.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2010, 04:22:16 PM »
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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #108 on: July 25, 2010, 06:32:19 PM »
Group clamor, sole pontification or lone crazed gunman.

Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #109 on: July 25, 2010, 08:58:21 PM »
I thoroughly explained how it was "overunity". I gave you the mathematical formulae, so that you can verify this for yourself. You neglected to do so.
sm0ky2, how is it possible for your to think in physics in such an erroneous and ignorant way?
Your so called "formulae" is worth null and nothing. You have made up your own formula based
on a faulty world perception, not what really happens, and that is so very wrong.

The energy dissipated by this system is far greater than the energy that is put into it. That by very definition is "overunity".
No, you are extremely super wrong here. The input energy to make this thing spin is the energy
spent by placing the two elements together with the imperfection as result. You can't exclude this.
If you don't spend any energy what so ever you can't bring them together and there will be no spin.
That by very definition is "underunity".

Even you must see this and understand that there is no free lunch involved here.
Only if the ball accelerated faster by itself while maintaining its imbalance could we talk about OU.
I hope there's someone else at OU forum that can help me explain it for you somewhat "simpler".

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #110 on: July 26, 2010, 05:09:31 AM »
sm0ky2, how is it possible for your to think in physics in such an erroneous and ignorant way?
Your so called "formulae" is worth null and nothing. You have made up your own formula based
on a faulty world perception, not what really happens, and that is so very wrong.
No, you are extremely super wrong here. The input energy to make this thing spin is the energy
spent by placing the two elements together with the imperfection as result. You can't exclude this.
If you don't spend any energy what so ever you can't bring them together and there will be no spin.
That by very definition is "underunity".

Even you must see this and understand that there is no free lunch involved here.
Only if the ball accelerated faster by itself while maintaining its imbalance could we talk about OU.
I hope there's someone else at OU forum that can help me explain it for you somewhat "simpler".

First of all, that was not "my formula",. that is the textbook formula. which , WHEN you go to college, you will LEARN about.

Second, we discussed the input energy. The movement of the ball-mass, and the placement of the upper ring.
These combined are far less than the losses we discussed.
Do the math, stop pulling apart the cheese.

The ball is motionless, when the cycle starts. the ball accellerates, travels its' path of motion, then decellerates once it nears the point of magnetic-balance.
Do your calculations. Add up the input energy on one side of the equation. And on the other side add up the energy involved in the acceleration of the ball, Frictional losses, Wind resistance, Moment of Inertia, and gravitational resistance.

Then sit there and stare at the numbers on each side of the "="

then go pull a piece of string cheese out of the fridge, and lie to yourself once more.

Its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. You are spouting nonsensical thermodynamic bull*&%*, and doing so incorrectly i might add..

You will think back on this day, when you get to college......

i dont need your acceptance, wether or not you agree with me changes nothing. I'm trying to help you here. But you just want to pull apart the cheese instead of looking at the reality of the situation.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2010, 05:59:00 AM »
No I just simply think that some of these people sitting around on there tuffs should start proving without a doubt that there is not a possible way something is overunity before making the claim just like everyone thinks that the vice versa should happen... Naudin, Clanzer, Dusty, Tinsel Kola, Stephen, excommon, smoky2, and a couple others out there are proving stuff and many others are trying stuff you have this guy fat chance I haven't seen no work no pictures of his projects just a bunch of pointless blubbering that is it and hugo chavez someone elses alter ego probably just like fat chance well he is next in line!

Muahahaha !

Thats going to be the slogan the old rold gold slogan for those who like to do nothing but spout off and sit on there tuffs...

Prove it pretzel boy!

Enjoy don't take me too personal as I don't know myself but I tell you looking at something and actually experiencing something are 2 way different things trust me life lesson number 122 hehe.

Good instance the people that experience UFO rather then just seeing them on youtube are more likely to believe that there might be something more to the whole UFO thing... Now this is just an example do not blow it out of context ;)

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« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2010, 05:59:00 AM »
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Offline Hugo Chavez

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #112 on: July 26, 2010, 06:12:55 AM »
 ::)  Infringer, the only things I've said here is that we should report honestly on experiments and that the hamel spinner is not an example of overunity.  You're going to bust my balls and say I'm next for that?  Really?  Oh dear, such a crime I've committed ::)  Clanzer's own videos prove it's not overunity.  If that's overunity, spinning a top would be an example of overunity.  a top can spin a long time with little innitial input.  Just one little twist of the fingers.  In this case you're just replacing a magnetic field for the quick twist of fingers.  neither is overunity.  Putting the onus on us to prove what is plainly already proven is stupid. 

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #113 on: July 26, 2010, 08:13:20 AM »
@sm0ky2

I rest my case.
Your are completely right mr Almighty.
I suggest you bring your formulae and calculations to a well established
physics university and declare you have found the holy grail beyond doubt.
Within ten years time you will get your Nobel prize.

Good luck.... you'll need it.  ::)
« Last Edit: July 26, 2010, 11:06:27 AM by FatChance!!! »

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #114 on: July 27, 2010, 05:49:23 AM »
...  If that's overunity, spinning a top would be an example of overunity.  a top can spin a long time with little innitial input.  Just one little twist of the fingers.  In this case you're just replacing a magnetic field for the quick twist of fingers.  neither is overunity.   

Here's something you should try. set up the clanzer experiment. weigh the mass of the upper ring of magnets, and calculate the energy required to position it on top of the bowl. ( if you are really feeling giddy, you can even add in the small ammount of magnetic force from the ball thats pushing against it!!)

Now spin the ball with that same ammount of energy., WITHOUT the magnetic ring on top.  and simply observe what happens.
use a winding spring of known value, so you have consistent results.

Offline Hugo Chavez

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #115 on: July 27, 2010, 07:17:15 AM »
you need mental help smoke.  You're probably the person from several years back that thought a magnet's attractive force to another magnet was overunity.  His thinking was that very little work was involved in setting the magnets close to eachother and much more work was done by the magnets snapping together.  According to what you're saying this would be overunity too.  Were you the dumbass that thought two mags snapping together is overunity?  Lol, I bet it was you.

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #116 on: July 27, 2010, 07:54:59 AM »
ok, im not even going to respond to that last comment..

go back and read what i said about the hamel spinner.
at this point i have to assume, since you have failed to explain the frictional losses in this system in excess of the input energy, that physics is not your area of expertise, which quite frankly is confusing to me, because you are devoutly worshipping the theory of thermodynamics, which is based on those same physics.... hmmmm

Also having neglected to perform the experiments, shows that you are unwilling to learn about the true nature of the subject.
What exactly is your intention in propegating this indoctrinated theology? 

You look at the device, and proclaim that 1 - 10 = 1
    Where did the other -9 go? oh nevermind that, we'll just sweep that under the rug,..
 nope no overunity here..


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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #117 on: July 27, 2010, 08:06:17 AM »
lol, you are the person who said two magnets snapping together produce overunity arn't you?...  oops...  same logic...

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #118 on: July 27, 2010, 04:41:36 PM »
@all

What about finding a way to make this one to work using Clanzer ideas to somehow activate the coil without using batteries?


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