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Author Topic: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!  (Read 46790 times)

Offline Rapadura

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CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« on: April 14, 2010, 05:35:36 AM »
First of all, I have to apologize to CLaNZeR for this unauthorized thread. But I have to create it, because I'm very impressed with I just watched.

I have just watched this video:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments1.wmv

That was an experiment made by CLaNZeR in 2008 with Halbach arrays.

This video has something very impressive: CLaNZeR made the runner overcome the gate of the second Halbach array after exiting the first Halbach array...

It's just after the message "Now for two Halbach Array Gates". He puts the runner after the gate of the first array. Okay, he used his hand to do that. But after the runner exits this first  array, the runner enters the second array ALONE!

And he did it again after the message "Entrance Sticky Spot seems less than the Tri-Force Gate".  The second "gate" (entrance sticky spot) is entered ALONE by the runner!

How long that could be? If CLaNZeR had put a third array, the runner could overcome the gate (entrance sticky spot) of this third array? And a fourth? And a fifth?

And after the last Halbach array, there's no sticky point. The sticky point is always at the beginning of the array, not at the end.

From what I had seem in the video I can't imagine any theoretical obstacle for the runner entering array after array, gate after gate, for a very long distance.

Now, just imagine: if the rolling surface was covered by piezos, how much power could be stored after 2000 meters in a bank of capacitors? Couldn't this energy be enough to make the runner overcome the first gate of the first array of magnetic track coming in the inverse direction? After passing the first gate of the first array, couldn't the runner goes on without need for more external energy input?

Mr. CLaNZeR, please try that experiment again!!!!

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CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« on: April 14, 2010, 05:35:36 AM »

Offline Rapadura

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 05:59:23 AM »
If he did it with 33 Tri-Gates, he can do it with lots of Halbach arrays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2pNehGPWvw


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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 09:17:27 AM »
This is not overunity.

It's been said already many times elsewhere in this forum: look at where the roler magnet starts.
To put is there, you have to use already some energy.
This is what is overlooked all the time.

You can prove that it does not work by simulating forces using FEMM and calculate the whole stretched area from way before the array until way passed the array.
Sum all calculated forces over the whole distance and you find exactly 0 (zero) as the integral result.

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 10:02:19 AM »
Has anyone ever done a wheel with this array?


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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 10:30:38 AM »
This array seems different as I think you may be able to close loop??  If so, I have an idea of placing in a circle and then have a track for a stainless steel ball.  If can be in a closed loop.. the ball would spin around the track in a loop!

See attached (not to scale.. quick drawing)

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 10:34:13 AM »
Has anyone ever done a wheel with this array?


Mags

Hi Mags.. didn't see your post.. that is the question!  I think it would be worth trying, but with a ball instead of a wheel.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 11:39:49 AM »
Steel ball ? Why should it work ? The steel ball would  be attracted to the first magnet and not move any further ;]

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 05:02:47 PM »
Steel ball ? Why should it work ? The steel ball would  be attracted to the first magnet and not move any further ;]

Did you watch the video?  But.. CLaNZeR rolled it down the side of the array to show there was no attraction.. it didn't go by itself.. didn't notice that.. I still think it may be looped though.

Watch this video.. one side attracts.. the other canceled out.. very cool.
http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments2.wmv

4Tesla


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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 08:07:24 PM »
This array seems different as I think you may be able to close loop??  If so, I have an idea of placing in a circle and then have a track for a stainless steel ball.  If can be in a closed loop.. the ball would spin around the track in a loop!

See attached (not to scale.. quick drawing)

4Tesla


Along these same lines if one arranged Halbach array magnets in a
2.5ft diameter circle and have the runner mounted on an arm. It would
seems like this would work. How strong could a collective sticky spot
become with a Halbach Array magnets? The other thing one could do;
reverse the polarity of Halbach arrays 1/2 way though and have gaps
where the arrays reverses so that the runner could be mechanically
flipped. Also the arm could store a small amount of gravitational energy
by lifting the runner very slightly then having a sharper ramp to
provide some propelling power at where ever the sticky spot there is.
I guess this would be a little like a "Yog motor".

The only possible way this would not work is like user teslaaset
says...that there is no power gain from any part of the array.
But then where is power coming from to make the runner roll
slightly uphill?

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 09:51:40 PM »

Along these same lines if one arranged Halbach array magnets in a
2.5ft diameter circle and have the runner mounted on an arm. It would
seems like this would work. How strong could a collective sticky spot
become with a Halbach Array magnets? The other thing one could do;
reverse the polarity of Halbach arrays 1/2 way though and have gaps
where the arrays reverses so that the runner could be mechanically
flipped. Also the arm could store a small amount of gravitational energy
by lifting the runner very slightly then having a sharper ramp to
provide some propelling power at where ever the sticky spot there is.
I guess this would be a little like a "Yog motor".

The only possible way this would not work is like user teslaaset
says...that there is no power gain from any part of the array.
But then where is power coming from to make the runner roll
slightly uphill?

:S:MarkSCoffman

I agree.. a magnet rotating on a arm seems possible.. the way to collect some power is, if the arm keeps rotating, to use a small collector coil.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 11:51:36 AM »
Did you watch the video?  But.. CLaNZeR rolled it down the side of the array to show there was no attraction.. it didn't go by itself.. didn't notice that.. I still think it may be looped though.

Watch this video.. one side attracts.. the other canceled out.. very cool.
http://www.overunity.org.uk/halbach/CLaNZeRHalbachExperiments2.wmv

4Tesla
I've already seen this many times - it's not the steel ball - it's a magnet. Didn't you notice it's a part of magnetic toy - Geomag or similar ?

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Offline Rapadura

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 12:39:15 PM »
This is not overunity.

It's been said already many times elsewhere in this forum: look at where the roler magnet starts.
To put is there, you have to use already some energy.

Okay, okay, I will not say anything more... This is not overunity, OK...

Just want CLaNZeR put some thousands Halbach arrays like those used in the video in a straight line and make the ball travel a few kilometers... But it still is not overunity because it took energy to put the ball inside the first array. Ok, Ok, I give up. If it's not overunity, nothing will be overunity.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 03:12:40 PM »
Quote
Along these same lines if one arranged Halbach array magnets in a
2.5ft diameter circle and have the runner mounted on an arm. It would
seems like this would work. How strong could a collective sticky spot
become with a Halbach Array magnets? The other thing one could do;
reverse the polarity of Halbach arrays 1/2 way though and have gaps
where the arrays reverses so that the runner could be mechanically
flipped. Also the arm could store a small amount of gravitational energy
by lifting the runner very slightly then having a sharper ramp to
provide some propelling power at where ever the sticky spot there is.
I guess this would be a little like a "Yog motor".

The only possible way this would not work is like user teslaaset
says...that there is no power gain from any part of the array.
But then where is power coming from to make the runner roll
slightly uphill?

@mscoffman, Perhaps a "hybrid" system combining the recently discussed DDWFTTW cart on a hallbeck array or tri gate track.  The magentic momentum should get the cart moving and the wheels on the cart drive the propeller and the propeller drives the cart... this should provide enough energy to get past any sticky spot to begin another revoultion.

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 04:34:08 PM »
[Okay, okay, I will not say anything more... This is not overunity, OK...

Just want CLaNZeR put some thousands Halbach arrays like those used in the video in a straight line and make the ball travel a few kilometers...[/quote]


All that needs to be done is to scale this up to locomotive size and stretch the track around the planet. Everyone along the way can set up coils to draw Energy from it and we would have the first "global" power generator. Promoting peace, love, and brotherhood among nations. (Can you see the pretty butterflies flittering around?)

Perpetual motion, no sticky spots, and world cooperation. What a concept!!!  :D

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Re: CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 07:14:11 PM »
nobody has tried a diamagnetic ball yet, made of either Pyrolytic carbon and or bismuth. of course the magnets would have to be pretty strong.

 

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