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Title: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dani on April 02, 2006, 11:06:43 AM
The Discussion can be found at
http://www.hyiq.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60&sid=06542c6983a456e36f1565c2c00c3b5e

The Project can be found at
http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Floyd_Sweet.html

Videos and Links at
http://www.ctglabs.com/vta/vtaindex.htm
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dani on April 02, 2006, 12:44:42 PM
Another replication might be the hortong-device at  http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Hortong_Electron_Orbit_Energy_Generator

I assume there are no conditioned BariumFerrite magnets like in the VTA, but a rotating electromagnetic field caused by 3coils around a xyz-ferrite block which are pulsed successively , and over this "electromagnet" the VTA-coils are wound (see http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Archive_Sweet.html). At frequencies about 8.5 Hz the coils tapping into the schuman resonance (read Update 01-03-05,Update 17-04-05 @ http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Floyd_Sweet.html) and negative energy can be extracted.

It may be working as described in the lines before. If not, it could be a a new solid state device without BariumFerrite - magnets (called Dani-Device? :)
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dani on April 03, 2006, 10:59:40 PM
Is this VTA without a magnet? I have no equipment to test this in any case. Maybe it is worth a discussion (See attached picture)
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: turbo on February 05, 2009, 02:15:53 PM
Here are some pages about The Floyd Sweet's vacuum triode amplifier.   :)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item232 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item232)

Marco.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: Wicaksono on January 22, 2011, 04:36:35 PM
Hello, is there anyone knows how to contact VTA replicator @ www.hyiq.org ? They have very nice website, unfortunately there is no contact address. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: e2matrix on January 22, 2011, 05:40:06 PM
www.dnsstuff.com will get this info for you on hyiq.org:
Site owner Chris and email: dna@onthenet.com.au
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: DeepCut on January 23, 2011, 02:44:26 AM
Drunken Nonsense Deleted ;+}
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: luishan on March 21, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Now affordable Barium Ferrite Magnet available on the Ebay. (Limited quantity)




http://www.ebay.com/itm/130663642805#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/130663642805#ht_500wt_1076)
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: DeepCut on March 22, 2012, 10:25:13 AM
Thanks lusihan, i missed them on ebay a while back, nice find :)

Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: DeepCut on March 22, 2012, 10:25:43 AM
Hello, is there anyone knows how to contact VTA replicator @ www.hyiq.org (http://www.hyiq.org) ? They have very nice website, unfortunately there is no contact address. Thanks in advance.

Contact him via his utoob chanel.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: luishan on March 22, 2012, 05:26:57 PM
Check it out his Youtube video for conditioning the barium ferrite magnet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ_sFy6BQU)


http://www.youtube.com/user/3nealweber3/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/3nealweber3/videos)



Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: hyiq on March 22, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Hey Guys,
 
Its Chris here from hyiq. I saw your posts, they were pointed out by a friend.
 
RE Contact; I have an E-Mail me button on my pages if anyone needs to contact me.
 
Let me know if I can help in any way here. I like what youre doing. Check out my videos @ http://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos)
 
all the best
 
  Chris
 
 
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: DeepCut on March 22, 2012, 11:08:52 PM
I'm pretty sure most speake magnets (in decent speakers) used to be barium ferrite.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: luishan on March 22, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
Good to see you Chris.


How is it going your  Floyd Sweet VTA replication process ?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: hyiq on March 23, 2012, 05:45:21 AM
 
Hi Luishan,
 
 
To date, I have not replicated the VTA. I have eliminated a ton of information that is either totally false and an outright lie, or just not relevant to the VTA itself. I still believe it is possible to replicate the VTA and that it is not out of the grasp of normal people like us. I think this is important to see.
 
My advice is; Stick to all the known facts that are provable:
    ·         Floyd turned on the VTA with the flick of a switch on his oscillator! – in my opinion this fact is very important! This very fact proves there was NO Conditioning!
    ·         There is a part in the Video (Floyd Sweets Secrets – for sale on the Tom Bearden website) that the VTA was running at 62 Hz then it went back to 60Hz throughout the rest of the video!
    ·         The VTA’s Geometry! E.G. Coil Structures and orientation!
    ·         Output of the VTA! Sine wave output, reading of Current and Voltage were done. There are many contradictions here when you look into this!
    ·         Notice the Power Coils seem to be flush with the face of the Magnets!
    ·         Floyds back ground, work history and what he actually did do in his career!
    ·         Other devices that have similarities – not one device in history has needed “Conditioning” or heating of the Magnets!
 
Don’t let the non-provable assumptions (Lies and non-truths) lead your experiments. Floyd stumbled onto this by experiment and he was experimenting with the normal known arts initially before he found this amazing gain.
 
My last video shows the importance of thinking about the Magnetic Flux and the orientation of the Power Coil’s. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Enr6_d3yU&context=C466f666ADvjVQa1PpcFN4uSL-b2-yReh2ueDW8BtWolcGoDnZ31Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Enr6_d3yU&context=C466f666ADvjVQa1PpcFN4uSL-b2-yReh2ueDW8BtWolcGoDnZ31Y)=
 
It’s very easy to “Move Flux”. A Coil at right angles to the power Coil and Magnet will “Resonate Flux” depending on the frequency, aim for around 8-16Hz and you will see the Flux Move. See the video, Floyd Sweet Secrets, the Magnets were put into oscillation by a resonant 13Hz Frequency. This is very easy done!
 
Learn about Flux Cutting and how this works exactly. Learn why just putting a Coil on a Magnet and “Resonating the Flux” won’t work! My video shows more information. One side of the Power Coil MUST see an oppersite or lesser change to the other side of the coil. Other wise a short circuit will be seen and no optput will be achieved! This is a real simple and provable fact, it also proves the conditioning proceedure to be false as was described by Tom Bearden.
 
The VTA is not just a few Magnets and a few Coils! It’s a complex arrangement of finely tuned and arranged components.
 
Magnet Conditioning as was described by Tom Bearden is absolutely not true. Tom Bearden was lied to!

Barium Ferrite is not important to get an output! dont be fooled by the silly information that really has no real basis in science at all! Really! there are over 200 OU devices that are known in history, not one of them "Requires" Barium Ferrite Magnets. Really, its the flux thats important here, not the Magnet type.

Magnetic Flux is defined by the Aetheric Field, seen after we create a storm in the Aetheric Field, simply by creating a permanent Magnet! The Aetheric Field is normally very hard to detect! Its like detecting the Air we breath, at least untill we see a storm and the Wind knocks us over!

Magnetic Flux creates a charge seperation when cutting A Conductor at right angles, it pushes VE+ charges one way and VE- charges the other way, Floyd pointed this out in his famous paper, Nothing is Something. Flux Cutting a Conductor at right angles creates Charge Seperation, see the Lorentz Force for more information.


All the best
 
  Chris
 
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: luishan on March 23, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
Dear Chris


    Very good experienced comments. I will keep in mind.
    Please keep on going your experiment and share your experience.
    Thank you.





Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: luishan on March 23, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Check it out below video. He use magnetic flux energy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMaAO10XSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMaAO10XSs)



Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: hyiq on March 23, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
Hi Luishan,

This looks like a very good experiment to try. I will say a lot can be learned by experimenting on this type of device.
This is however a totally different concept than Flux Cutting. This is Induction through Flux Linking (Transformer Induction). Its important to keep this in mind when experimenting.

Lots of turns on a small coil and you can get a very good result from this type of arrangement but its a lot different from the VTA. My experiments on the Flux Gate Magnetometer are very similar. You can see in my early experiments, I use a large input, on my later experiments I use much less, because I used an input with more turns on it. In this case, you might need more Input Voltage, but Input Current goes way down. Its Ohms Law.
 
All the best

  Chris
 
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: mx1000 on November 01, 2013, 06:06:17 PM
The Discussion can be found at
http://www.hyiq.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60&sid=06542c6983a456e36f1565c2c00c3b5e

The Project can be found at
http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Floyd_Sweet.html

Videos and Links at
http://www.ctglabs.com/vta/vtaindex.htm

http://forum.ctglabs.com/index.php

Is only thing that works, @ctglabs domain, but closed registration (currently ?)
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 21, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
In one video Floyd ajusting frenquency and found, that resonant frenquency of magnet is 11 herc. Did that mean, that if we put 11 herc, then we get energy amplification and then not need prepare magnets?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 22, 2014, 08:20:04 AM
Here I corect show? In inputs coils he put 10 volts and 32 mikroams curent, sine of 60 herc. On output coils he have 500 W 120 volts 60 Hz. Magnets in atraction mode.

For conditionig, Sweet use sixteen hundred mikrofarad capasitor 220 volts and paralel  acros it is 220 volts, probarly, lamp, to see voltage across capasitor.

Or maybe one output coil?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 22, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
Here is Sweet conditioning coil, wound maybe 0,5 mm wire, maybe 500-250 turns. Then it put into this coil two magnet with space (box between them) in atraction mode and dischare capasitor in pulsing system with 60 herc frenquency on this coil. Then change polarity and again dischare some time capasitor with 60 herc to this coil.

But he say, that tha size magnet have self frenquency about 11 herc, so what this mean, that if we use 11 herc to input coils, then not need prepare magnets?
 
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 22, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=0gM9natKIyY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=0gM9natKIyY)
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on March 27, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
I wish I knew the answer. One thing that made me keep on searching elsewhere is, in the VTA  descriptions they always say "it's very easy", but then later I read "oh yes , you have to condition the magnets, with a secret procedure and 20'000 volts". And now you say 220V. It's this inconsistency that made me pass by.


Of course, it would be great to get energy from permanent magnets. And I have a feeling that it is possible.


Regards
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 27, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
I wish I knew the answer. One thing that made me keep on searching elsewhere is, in the VTA  descriptions they always say "it's very easy", but then later I read "oh yes , you have to condition the magnets, with a secret procedure and 20'000 volts". And now you say 220V. It's this inconsistency that made me pass by.



Regards
Floyd use 250 volts capasitor. From were you get information, that need 20 000 volts?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on March 28, 2014, 12:47:35 AM
Hi,


Quote
...In fact, Don Watson said the magnet to be programmed was to be excited between two plates that were charged with at least 20KV (DC or AC). This would cause a 'ringing' in the barium which would last for upwards of 15 minutes.

 During that time, the magnet could be subjected to a sharp pulse at roughly 260 degrees of a 60 cps sinewave. He said this was based on his own experiments and seemed to get the best results....

see:


 www.linux-host.org/energy/svta.htm
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 28, 2014, 07:24:31 AM
Hi,


see:


 www.linux-host.org/energy/svta.htm (http://www.linux-host.org/energy/svta.htm)
Maybe with 20000 volts he better get results, but Floyd use 250 volts DC capasitor. So maximum voltage  Floyd use is 250 volts. Floyd all explain how condiotion and here no secrets. Who for you is authoritity, Floyd or Watson?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: marathonman on March 28, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
According to HYIQ.ORG people around Sparky are lying about the magnet conditioning and someone should be able to replicate it.
i personally believe they are lying. i don't trust none of those sorry people involved like Lindemann and Tom Bearden.
all they are is coat riders making money off other people fame or ideas.
don't forget these....


Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on March 29, 2014, 12:38:12 AM
In fact, even several Replicators said, sparky did not only disclose parts of the operation principle, but even misleaded people by fake information. From my point of view some of the replicators have given much more valuable infos than sparky himself.


That said, one must love this 80 years old guy, when you hear his wife like "is everything alright with you?" and he like "yeah we're fine, get back into the kitchen, it's something electric"... she obviously had no idea that historical things happened right there...if they happened. Well, it's whittnessed.


I would neighter rely on the infos by the don smith replication, for other reasons. A guy named Neil Weber had some good infos and offers the original magnets, that are rare to find and of which he had to buy a few dozens. See youtube.


A COP  of 1.5 Mio is pretty cool, shure. Feels a bit like a cities power supply in your pocket. 1 Watt in, 1.5 Megawatt out. Megawatt , mmmh!  8)


But this whole conditioning business... I'm not getting it. I have seen the "bubble" they are talking about. Basicly it's just a reversed polarity on the barium ferrite magnets center, so along the edges it's NS, but in the center SN, with a bloch wall surrounding the center. But then they say you need to "program" the magnet with a eg. 60Hz signal while the bubble is made... program? Ok, but then it is also said, the conditioning does not only consist magnetical treatment, but also pulses of HV in the magnet material (that is nonconductive...)...


All very confusing. Nonetheless, my contribution: I once put a neodym against a barium ferrite magnet, N to N. Then I watched it with the green magnet vision film. The BF had a reversed polarity area of the size of the Neodym! So this way, with the film in place (5$, wondermagnets.com), you could remagnetize the BF magnet manually (and visually) with a neodym and achieve the same bubble. If there is also a flat coil on it, providing the 60hz signal, that might work too. At least something to experiment with.
.As Floyd Sparky Sweet said, it HAS to be Barium ferrite.
As far as I see, the donut magnets inside a microwave oven are also barium ferrrite. Tho, the hole in the middle may be a problem. Also, these magnets are magnetized so perfectly, not shure if I would want to mess with them.
.Regards

Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: Jimboot on March 29, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
In fact, even several Replicators said, sparky did not only disclose parts of the operation principle, but even misleaded people by fake information. From my point of view some of the replicators have given much more valuable infos than sparky himself.


That said, one must love this 80 years old guy, when you hear his wife like "is everything alright with you?" and he like "yeah we're fine, get back into the kitchen, it's something electric"... she obviously had no idea that historical things happened right there...if they happened. Well, it's whittnessed.


I would neighter rely on the infos by the don smith replication, for other reasons. A guy named Neil Weber had some good infos and offers the original magnets, that are rare to find and of which he had to buy a few dozens. See youtube.


A COP  of 1.5 Mio is pretty cool, shure. Feels a bit like a cities power supply in your pocket. 1 Watt in, 1.5 Megawatt out. Megawatt , mmmh!  8)


But this whole conditioning business... I'm not getting it. I have seen the "bubble" they are talking about. Basicly it's just a reversed polarity on the barium ferrite magnets center, so along the edges it's NS, but in the center SN, with a bloch wall surrounding the center. But then they say you need to "program" the magnet with a eg. 60Hz signal while the bubble is made... program? Ok, but then it is also said, the conditioning does not only consist magnetical treatment, but also pulses of HV in the magnet material (that is nonconductive...)...


All very confusing. Nonetheless, my contribution: I once put a neodym against a barium ferrite magnet, N to N. Then I watched it with the green magnet vision film. The BF had a reversed polarity area of the size of the Neodym! So this way, with the film in place (5$, wondermagnets.com), you could remagnetize the BF magnet manually (and visually) with a neodym and achieve the same bubble. If there is also a flat coil on it, providing the 60hz signal, that might work too. At least something to experiment with.
.As Floyd Sparky Sweet said, it HAS to be Barium ferrite.
As far as I see, the donut magnets inside a microwave oven are also barium ferrrite. Tho, the hole in the middle may be a problem. Also, these magnets are magnetized so perfectly, not shure if I would want to mess with them.
.Regards


Or we could just buy one of these . I got delivery of some of there mags the other day and their polar patterns are crazy. Strong as hell when they lock together too. http://www.correlatedmagnetics.com/minimagprinter/
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 29, 2014, 11:46:17 AM
According to HYIQ.ORG people around Sparky are lying
Look in video, who I post. Sparky say, that capasitor is 250 volts DC. Sparky lying?
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on March 29, 2014, 11:58:09 AM
In fact, even several Replicators said, sparky did not only disclose parts of the operation principle, but even misleaded people by fake information.ld want to mess with them.

That is not true! If you ask thay Sparky use 60 herc, then I answer, it use 60 herc, because in his place 60 herc is standar, so he can conect standart motors and transformers, fans, etc.. You can conditio magnets discharing 200 volts in short pulses to that big coil, then magnets is inside with 70 herc, then you need put into triger coil not 60 herc, but 70 herc. I almost shore, that triger coil must have wery much turns, maybe 200, maybe 1000. Output coil must have small number of turn, maybe 10, maybe 30 with tick wire, maybe 2 milimeters diameter wire. Triger coils is horizontal axis, can be one triger coil, I think. Output coils is vertical axis and betwen magnets is, also, I think, that can be one output coil. And then just put to triger coil sine of 60 or 70 herc of 10 volts. Coils probarly not have cores, is air coes. I not shore or is important aluminum box betwen magnets, then divice asembled, but, think, that it probarly not important.


Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on March 29, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
I wish you very good luck in the replication.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on April 02, 2014, 05:44:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsqmHC00CJI
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on April 04, 2014, 02:24:08 AM
Ok, I had to give it a try. I had one crazy thought, or was it an inspiration by sparky himself , appearing in a dream...


2 microwave oven magnets, two coils. The idea was to make the inner coil in a special way, so it would be capable of guiding the flux in a passive state...


So far so good, I tried it with a 12 V AC wave, both, full and a halfrectified "dc pulse with 50% duty time". Output was 1.4v with no measurable amps, practically zero and the led load didn't light up at all. Even with the full power of the supply, normally 20 Watts absolutely no output current.


Then I tried it with a squareish signal of 12.5% duty time, using the pc and a little LM386 circuit as an amplifer. Unstantly the LED lit up. I increased the frequency and found a max amplitude at about 1250 hz.


I triwd to measure in and out. Volts in parallel and Amps in series with the LED, with a electrolytic cap, 1000uF 16V, in parallel with the LED:
2.7V * 2.6mA = 7.02 mW


I then connected the LM386 output directly to the VTA output  practically skipping the VTA. I read 1.98Volts and really 0.000 mA. This is bad for calculation, so I took a 10 ohm resistor instead of the LED, but still with the cap:
0.16V * 9mA = 1.44 mW


This sounds too good, and indeed, measuring the power when the 10 ohm resistor was connected to the VTA gave me dissapointing 0.09V @ 8mA,


So you see, here seems to be sorta discrepancy, depending on the load. Not shure what I should think about, but I thought I let you know.


Remember, Sparkys first model that he presented to Tom Bearden had an Output of 6 Watt..
Some pics...



Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: mx1000 on April 04, 2014, 05:13:43 PM
Ok, I had to give it a try. I had one crazy thought, or was it an inspiration by sparky himself , appearing in a dream...


2 microwave oven magnets, two coils. The idea was to make the inner coil in a special way, so it would be capable of guiding the flux in a passive state...


So far so good, I tried it with a 12 V AC wave, both, full and a halfrectified "dc pulse with 50% duty time". Output was 1.4v with no measurable amps, practically zero and the led load didn't light up at all. Even with the full power of the supply, normally 20 Watts absolutely no output current.


Then I tried it with a squareish signal of 12.5% duty time, using the pc and a little LM386 circuit as an amplifer. Unstantly the LED lit up. I increased the frequency and found a max amplitude at about 1250 hz.


I triwd to measure in and out. Volts in parallel and Amps in series with the LED, with a electrolytic cap, 1000uF 16V, in parallel with the LED:
2.7V * 2.6mA = 7.02 mW


I then connected the LM386 output directly to the VTA output  practically skipping the VTA. I read 1.98Volts and really 0.000 mA. This is bad for calculation, so I took a 10 ohm resistor instead of the LED, but still with the cap:
0.16V * 9mA = 1.44 mW


This sounds too good, and indeed, measuring the power when the 10 ohm resistor was connected to the VTA gave me dissapointing 0.09V @ 8mA,


So you see, here seems to be sorta discrepancy, depending on the load. Not shure what I should think about, but I thought I let you know.


Remember, Sparkys first model that he presented to Tom Bearden had an Output of 6 Watt..
Some pics...
Greatly appreciated.

I can't add much, although I have a link of a lot of Floyd Sweet vids and stuff (a Russian site).
If you want I can post them here.

Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: MenofFather on April 04, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
Great work.
Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on April 04, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
Thank you very much, your feedback is highly appreciated.

mx1000, shure, post the links.

As an update: by modelling some waveforms with rather steep increase and then sudden fall to zero within 1 sample of the pcm wav (using a 22050 hz wav, but can play it at any rate),  I increased the amps to 3.4 mA, so now that is 9mW output. The described problems in measuring the input remain a problem. All I know is that I get these 9mW as a serious, smoothed current from the cap, pure dc.

Now, as I was not able to light the blue led by connecting the rectifier and cap directly to the LM386, i tried a tiny red LED, made for 20mA@2v (the blue one has 5 parallel LEDs integrated , parallel, for 3 volts). So this tiny red LED hooked up to the LM386 speaker output did light up with a nice brightness. I tried to add a cap, but that just turned it off, due to the AC nature of the signal. I measured: 1.19V, 0.04 mA (on 2.000 mA meter range) . I multiplied this by 4 since in AC the voltage is 2x and the current flows in 2 directions (maybe x2 would have been enough, anyway). So, as a very rough estimation I had 0.188 mW here. What can  I say, I  could hardly believe it. Also remarkable was, I was getting a moderate Voltage gain under load of maybe 200%, but the current gain was the amazing thing. 0.188mW in, 9mW out.

It certainly had something to do with the back EMF since the waveform was optimized for it.

But let me go a little deeper into the construction details. The basic idea for the concept, that made me try this in the first place, is something simple yet mind bending: The inner coil, that has a 5mm aircore and is of high mass, is no copper coil at all, it is a IRON coil. It is fence wire, covered with green color, so it is insulated.

The idea was that when the signal is idle between pulses, the magnets would use this mass of iron like a core, flow trough it in a low leakage flux path, reducing the field strength around it. Then, durind the pulse that flows trough the iron coil, that decreases the permeability of the iron mass due to an opposite field, the permanent magnets would avoid the iron as a flux path, preferring to flow trough the space around it, basicly trough the outer copper coil.

I don't know if that really happens, but I made a very fascinating observation with this iron coil: It is attracted from a magnets north side much more than from the south side !!!  It's just a piece of iron, but yet it does so! Why is that so? Well, since it is a coil, a current will be induced when you move it to a magnet. That current causes a magnetical field, that will add or subtract to the natural attraction of iron, depending on the perm. magnets polarity. So this way we have just created partially monopolar ferromagnetism. Not shure about what it's good for, but it is fascinating and I will investigate this further. Maybe it has something to do with the strange output gain. I may however try to use a real amplifer and pump like 100 Watts or so into it, instead of the LM386 that dissipates only 1 watt at max.

Regards

Title: Re: Floyd Sweet VTA Replication Project
Post by: dieter on April 09, 2014, 12:14:29 AM
Just for the records,

...
 Why is that so? Well, since it is a coil, a current will be induced when you move it to a magnet. That current causes a magnetical field, that will add or subtract to the natural attraction of iron, depending on the perm. magnets polarity. So this way we have just created partially monopolar ferromagnetism...

Of course, this was nonsense. No matter which winding direction, the lorentz force will always act against the  mechanical force that causes the induction, that's Lenz law 101. I was pretty much out of my head that day. So please excuse.

It turned out, the magnets are magnetized in a special way, in that any  piece of  iron sticks more on one side than on the other.

Regards