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Author Topic: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator  (Read 9569 times)

magnetman12003

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6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« on: April 01, 2010, 10:41:06 PM »
The below link shows and tells all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA

Tom
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IceStorm

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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 06:40:21 AM »
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 10:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA

Tom

lol , alot to learn in electronic, take your time, you will finally understand the basic of the basic. :) . Begin with Ohm law and after that delete your video.
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 09:17:28 AM »
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 10:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA

Tom

Hi Tom,

I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!

I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment.  I am very curious to see where it stands...  If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...

Cheers,

Bruce
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 06:44:43 PM »
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 10:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.

http://www.A.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA

Tom
It actually it doesent tell a thing. Volt isn't energy itself. It's in theory no problem in generating several gigavolts out of a 1.5VAAA battery. The question is how much current it can carry. The output product of "current x voltage" cannot exceed the input product of "current x voltage".
That means that you will have a current drop as the voltage raises. And visa versa.

Vidar
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010, 02:41:19 AM »
[A author=Bruce_TPU link=topic=8990.msg235870#msg235870 date=1270192648]
Hi Tom,

I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!

I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment.  I am very curious to see where it stands...  If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...

Cheers,

Bruce
[/quote] Hi Bruce,

 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for your comment.  I will take your advice and do just that. I bought a true RMS multimeter and am waiting for its arrival.   I always did wonder what kind of power output a spinning magnet under a load would have when spun by low DC  voltage and current.  I am having fun never the less.
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magnetman12003

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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 03:01:03 AM »
Quote from: Low-Q on April 03, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
It actually it doesent tell a thing. Volt isn't energy itself. It's in theory no problem in generating several gigavolts out of a 1.5VAAA battery. The question is how much current it can carry. The output product of "current x voltage" cannot exceed the input product of "current x voltage".
That means that you will have a current drop as the voltage raises. And visa versa.

 I agree with you.  In my case I am focusing on what kind of power I can draw out of one spinning magnet.  On the other side of the fence 6 dc volts/20 miliamps is spinning the magnet.  The buck stops there. The magnet "itself" is providing all the displayed AC.  I wish to see what kind of AC POWER that spinning magnet can generate and compare that power to the DC power used to spin a single magnet.  I have not seen that done anywhere on the internet this way.

Vidar
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 04:37:15 AM »
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 04, 2010, 02:41:19 AM
[A author=Bruce_TPU link=topic=8990.msg235870#msg235870 date=1270192648]
Hi Tom,

I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!

I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment.  I am very curious to see where it stands...  If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...

Cheers,

Bruce
 Hi Bruce,

 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for your comment.  I will take your advice and do just that. I bought a true RMS multimeter and am waiting for its arrival.   I always did wonder what kind of power output a spinning magnet under a load would have when spun by low DC  voltage and current.  I am having fun never the less.

You don't need a rms meter if you rectify the output since its DC and read your booklet who come with your meter, all meter read 50/60hz signal ,if your above 150hz you can get false reading since your meter will see the peak but the timeline will be wrong and it must be SINE Wave, weird shape waveform don't work , you will need a DSO for that.

Best Regards,
IceStorm
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 03:46:45 PM »
Hi Tom,

Icestorm is correct in what he says.

I woke up thinking about your device.  I think the first thing that I would suggest is replacing your magnet with a N52.  KJ Magnetics has them, I believe.

Next, I would try adding a weak mag outside of the wire pu coil.  Also, I would try winding another PU coil, using either Litz wire, or Stranded wire.  These are all places that I would suggest to up the power.

Cheers,

Bruce
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2010, 01:34:23 AM »
Hi Tom,

Great new video!  I have a simple Idea for you to increase your power...

The way you have your gen coil is great, now wind another around that gen coil and the plexiglass on either side.  So if gen coil is North and south, the second Gen coil will be East and West.  This will give you two gen coils!  Both vertical. 

I have attached a pic, based on your screen shot.  I believe you are using a diametrically magnatized magnet, so this will work great!!!

Cheers,

Bruce
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2010, 02:04:56 AM »
GREAT video.

Please connect a household 120V, 25 Watt Bulb to the Output to see how bright it is.


Thank you.
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magnetman12003

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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 03:34:17 PM »
Thanks for all your advice guys. I like that north /south- east west coil wiring idea  I will have to try all those ideas out. In the meantime I posted another video where I am measuring in and out voltage/current of this generator device. The  horizontal position I have the flux pickup coil in is not the greatest but it but it kept trying to roll of my work table in a vertical position when I made the video. I get higher results in the vertical position. I have my own power figures but am not making any claims that would embarrass me later. I know better than to do that.  What do you figure as in and out power from what you see?

Tom
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 06:08:39 PM »
Hi Tom,  I'm guessing about 0.12 watts (6 volts x 20 milliamps) in and if you are even getting 1 milliamp out then it sounds like you have OU.  I'm guessing you are getting more than that but then I'm an optimist  ;D   
    Best of luck with the motor and please keep us updated.
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 01:55:15 AM »
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 19, 2010, 03:34:17 PM
Thanks for all your advice guys. I like that north /south- east west coil wiring idea  I will have to try all those ideas out. In the meantime I posted another video where I am measuring in and out voltage/current of this generator device. The  horizontal position I have the flux pickup coil in is not the greatest but it but it kept trying to roll of my work table in a vertical position when I made the video. I get higher results in the vertical position. I have my own power figures but am not making any claims that would embarrass me later. I know better than to do that.  What do you figure as in and out power from what you see?

Tom

Hi Tom,

I wrote on your other thread.  You must rectify and then measure.  It really is the only way.

Glad that you liked my second coil idea.  It will work.   ;)

Also, any chance of upgrading to a N52 magnet of the exact size?

Thanks!

Bruce
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 05:25:12 AM »
If you need a large diametric ring magnet here is the link:


http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RX84X8DIA
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Re: 6 volts DC in 130 volts AC out simple generator
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 11:54:39 AM »
Howdy magnetman12003,

I shop at KJ Magnetics also.  Got some N52s for my latest MCPT (Magnetized Composite Planar Transformer).  I had been toying with the idea of using the big diameterically magnetized rings on axles on both sides of a solenoid like coil.  I would probably have to draw this for you.  Visualize two magnets like you are using on two axles connected with a timing chain so that they spin at equal speeds.  These two rings are on opposite sides of the coil.  When they are lined up they are attracting.  This way we double the lines of force through the center of the coil.  Then, say make one of the axles stick out from the coil arrangement and mount a propeller on it.  Add a tail on the back side, and stick it up in the wind to see if you can generate some power...

About measuring power, you don't have to rectify the voltage to measure it.  Just put a load on there and measure the alternating current and voltage.  Its still power, just in VAs rather than watts...

N52s Rock!
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