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slayer007

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2010, 01:11:54 PM »
@ slayer007

Is this your A? This is a dipole antenna. But, a very high field voltage would be required to get the needed 0.7 volts across the diodes to allow current to flow through them. I could see this happening with your exciter generating a field, but I would not think the ambient field would have a high enough voltage when the exciter is off.

Yes that is the basic circuit.
It will work by it's self with the Exiter disconnected.Last night I disconnected the Exiter and let it run all night I want to see how far it will charge the capacitor.And see if it will quite running after the capacitor reaches the voltage across the rectifier.(Thats around 1.3v)

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2010, 04:06:21 PM »
@ slayer007

It would seem that you have made a big crystal set radio. This is another version you might want to try. Also, germanium diodes might work better than silicon since they have lower junction voltage.


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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2010, 04:32:00 PM »
@ slayer007

In a loop antenna, the coils should be parallel (rather than as in my drawing) and spaced far apart for best gain.


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Power source.
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2010, 05:53:07 PM »
The RF radiation emanates from the Cosmos. Cosmic RF radiation generated by distant galaxies in outer space.

conradelektro

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2010, 07:38:20 PM »
@ slayer007

Hello Slayer, I watched your YouTube channel and try to understand your Exiter circuit. Great stuff!

Please excuse the silly questions, it is propably obvious, but I can not figure it out by myself.

Would your Exiter circuit work when I dispense with the diodes (4 x D1, 2 x D2) and the two capacitors, as indicated in the attached drawing?

I gather that the intention is to charge the two capacitors (or batteries) while doing all the other things with your big coil (like the transmission of energy to various tubes and LEDs)?

I want to build a very simple initial version of your circuit (without the diodes and the capacitors), if this is possible?

I guess it is essential to use the two transistors (2N2222 and MPSA06) as indicated in your schematics?

You explained the winding of the coils (L1 = big coil and L2 = pancake coil) quite nicely, I think I got that.

Do the additional towers just sit there, or are they connected to something? I see a length of wire coming out on the top?

I see also a length of wire coming out on top of L1, is this essential?

Sorry, a lot of questions from an inexperienced want to be experimenter.


Greetings, Conrad

slayer007

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2010, 09:21:51 PM »
Yes the circuit will work fine without the capacitors and the extra diodes.

It will also work with just one of the two transistors eather one.I was just getting good results with the two but it will work with just one or two MPSA06's or viseversa.

The bottom of the towers I might have connected to a small antenna some times,But thats about it.
I just left a little extra wire at the top and bottom so I can connect the coil to what ever.You don't need to have that much at the top.



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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2010, 11:11:07 PM »
Excellent Slayer

But i am something confused about your transistor on the exiter . Because you said that you use a PNP transistor in your last set up.
But on your shematic it is a parallel of 2 NPN transistors.
Please can you give us the actual shematic, as it would be usefull to replicate your exact test.


At the present i use the 2N2222 A (single ) and get also very good results.  So i used the Tesla pancake bifilar (that  i made for the exiter )    as a receiver and i could get about 1 meter transmission. on 6 volts at about 200 ma.

The exiter has about 1 meter antenna at the end of the L1 coil  and the Pancake is about 1 meter away and can light dimly a led (AV arrangement) on a single wire the other wire of the coil is free (hanging in the air). On the pix you can see the distance between the antenna (red wire on the left) and the Pancake coil on the rigt with hanging lit led

Than i made a small loop detector to improve the probe detection of the scope and i could test the power of the antenna all along  (see scope trace at about 60 cm from the beginning of antenna)

Will soon try the 2 receivers coils and than cut off the exiter

 Yep   very promising !

Thanks

Laurent

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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2010, 11:48:28 PM »
This is just a follow up to last nights video.
Lidmotor said the scope probe would affect the circuit.
He was right even when the power was turned off the probe was getting a small amout of AC from the AC ground.
In this video I have the probe and meter disconnected.The blue led's are still very dimly lighting, but not as near as bright as when the probe was connected.
So I guess there is nothing special here.

Here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STbFYWITmLk

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2010, 11:52:09 PM »
Excellent A

But i am something confused about your transistor on the exiter . Because you said that you use a PNP transistor in your last set up.
But on your shematic it is a parallel of 2 NPN transistors.
Please can you give us the actual shematic, as it would be usefull to replicate your exact test.


At the present i use the 2N2222 A (single ) and get also very good results.  So i used the Tesla pancake bifilar (that  i made for the exiter )    as a receiver and i could get about 1 meter transmission. on 6 volts at about 200 ma.

The exiter has about 1 meter antenna at the end of the L1 coil  and the Pancake is about 1 meter away and can light dimly a led (AV arrangement) on a single wire the other wire of the coil is free (hanging in the air). On the pix you can see the distance between the antenna (red wire on the left) and the Pancake coil on the rigt with hanging lit led

Than i made a small loop detector to improve the probe detection of the scope and i could test the power of the antenna all along  (see scope trace at about 60 cm from the beginning of antenna)

Will soon try the 2 receivers coils and than cut off the exiter

 Yep   very promising !

Thanks

Laurent

Yes I still like to use MPSA06 transistors I was just using the old PNP for a test I was doing.

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2010, 08:03:37 PM »
Hi This is my first post.
I've been lurking around for a few months.
Take a look at this guy -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DjFZfTITk

There's 6 videos that make up the lecture, in which he runs a demo of an exciter.  He states that he has worked out and tested the theory of what's going on. Fits exactly with what's being seen in the Lidmotor and Gbluer videos.

Found it on a youtube channel - Miguelgot3
He's got 700+ uploads so I seached 'Tesla' and got a result.

The lecture seems to fill in so many gaps on lots of threads on this forum.

I've also posted a video on my youtube channel that might fill in a few gaps for some other threads.  Spread it around to those who might find it of use. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNSoAsHz0I

Bit by bit the puzzle forms!

Mk1

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2010, 10:34:32 PM »

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2010, 12:26:29 AM »
@Slayer.Hi.I thought your last vid was great and the fact that the leds are still lighting dimly may suggest there is something going on as something is lighting them and if its not cap bounce then you may have something.
You say that the oscilloscope was contributing too if not causing the effect.Will the oscilloscope lead that you had connected to your circuit light an led on an av plug?
@Morepoweregor.Hi.Thankyou so much for posting those Eric Dollard vids.I watched them all and will watch them again no doubt and found them fascinating and the fact that he has experimented with  tesla's longitudinal waves and transmitted them through the ground great distances is a reason for us all to continue our experiments and one day we may be free from the grid.
Your plasma globe vid was great too.The spark gap is the key to extracting the energy required to light a filament bulb and i think if we can introduce spark gaps into our experiments with slayers exciter, we may see more great things happening.
@Woopy.I increased my voltage to 12v and am getting a great plasma arc like you and going through a fair amount of transistors but they are not blowing whilst its running,its when you switch it off and they catch a spike so i wil try reducing the voltage before i turn off.Is this what you are finding?Jonny

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2010, 10:12:16 AM »
Hi Jonny

Haven't done any follow up experiments yet, busy reading and thinking.

My focus is the linkage between this groups exciter experiments, the Kapanadze thread and resonance.

I want to gain a better understanding of resonance and how at seems to magnify. Tesla coil builders are using resonance to great effect, problem is the tuning to harness this effect seems to be a black art requiring years of work.

I've starting to aproach reasonace from an angle that I don't think anyone's looked at yet across this forum.  Induction Heating!

It's looks the same as a tesla coil  - a tank circuit primary, with a secondry that's just a lump or metal that gets hot.  The advantage that I find is that I can hook up multimeters and a scope (which is a bit of a non starter with a Tesla coil) and see what going on inside the primary.  I've done a few simple experiments where I get an LC parallel circuit into resonance and the effect is clear to see.  The input current drops right off and the current circulating between the coil and cap goes up.  You can also see the waveform across the cap change from a mess to a neat sinewave.  To me this aproach is simplifying the learning curve.

This guy's website got my attention:
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/indheat.html

He's got SPICE model plots at resonance that show input energy of almost  zero, with huge amounts of energy circulating between the cap and coil.

After watching the videos, seeing Slayer lighting LEDs from the floor and hearing about Teslas field of lights, I think what your working on is a done deal.

Lot's more stuff to post, but got to get some proper work done now!

I'm based on Somerset by the way!

Egor.

 

conradelektro

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2010, 11:29:01 PM »
@Lidmotor, Good evening!

I just saw your latest video on Youtube about the Slayer Exciter hooked up to a Joule Thief (also about plastic coated steel twist tie wire):

http://www.youtube.com/user/Lidmotor#p/u/0/F7v4vTrQFYk

Attached is a drawing depicting the circuit as I understood it. Did I get it right?

What I want to do, is a Joule Thief type Circuit that drives a CFL with about 1200 Volt at a frequency of 100 - 200 KHz.

I could build a Joule Thief with a 42 mm Toroid that achieves 1200 Volt on a secondary (standard Joule Thief circuit with a 170 turn secondary on the toroid) and drives a CFL nicely, but it swings with about 6 KHz and people with good hearing are annoyed by a piercing sound coming from the circuit (also pets do not like it). Therefore I think one should go to an air coil, which can swing with a higher frequency.

Your idea of hooking up a Slayer Exciter to a Joule Thief caught my attention in this context.

One could run a Joule Thief with a rather high frequency by using only a few bifilar turns on a little toroid (and by avoiding the many turn secondary which would lower the frequency very much). I guess that 200 KHz are possible. The high Voltage would then be achieved on the tower coil which is driven by the pan cake coil taking the place of the LED in parallel to the collector - emitter of the transistor (as you show in your video).

Could one get 1200 Volt out of your hook up? And how high was the frequency of your hook up?

The Slayer Exciter circuit (as published by Slayer007 on 2-18-2010) could of course be used to drive a CFL with very high frequency, but I am a bit worried about the electromagnetic radiation coming of the big tower coil (and on many other points in the circuit). Therefore your hook up of a Slayer Exciter type tower coil with a pancake primary in a basic Joule Thief looks very good to me. The frequency will not be in the range of Megahertz (prone to radiating), but still much higher than sound waves (e.g. 200 KHz).

Could one avoid a lot of electromagnetic radiation by connecting the CFL to the tower coil as I depicted in the drawing?

@Slayer007, Good Evening too!

May be you have some ideas! I see from your latest videos on YouTube that you are very interested in radiating power to other tower coils in the room. I would like a modification of your Slayer Exciter, so that very little is radiated away and that all the power from the big tower coil goes to one CFL? Having a rather big tower coil next to a CFL does not bother me, it would be a nice design feature catching the attention of onlookers.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2010, 11:36:43 PM »
Conrad:

I have used a neo magnet, a very strong neo, on my toroids to raise the freq.  it does raise it quite a bit although I can't measure just how much on my scope.

I did it originally to raise the freq. high enough so you can't hear the squeal any more and this does do that.  I talk about it it in my video of my Lidmotor/Jeanna light replication.

This probably will not get it up to the freq. you are looking for but it is a good trick to raise it some unknown amount.

Bill