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Author Topic: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter  (Read 246662 times)

Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #330 on: March 12, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »
Ramset,

It is better to GIVE than it is to receive.

GIVE freely to all who ask.

An act of KINDNESS will bring back a
tenfold reward from unexpected sources.

Do not COVET what others have.

What, dear friend, is the source of your
hostility?

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #330 on: March 12, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »

Offline ramset

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #331 on: March 12, 2013, 08:16:21 PM »
Sea Monkey
I dislike wasting time or resources ! And I really dislike disingenuous folks that would partake of those limited resources,and not consider the community.


 the community You live in,I live in,the guy in Pa,the fellow in Brisbain, Poland ,Phillippines etc etc etc


To squander a resource is to make it Moot,
we men are the resource, the work is what we do,the benefit is to all. Open source research done this way is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and hoping some benevolent type picks up from there.


I don't like fairy tales ,this sounds like a fairy tale to me...


"set it free if it loves you it will come back to you"[not aimed at you SM ]


We need more responsible behavior if this is ever actually going to happen!
accountability being the first step,if you are here feasting you need to be accountable to
the rest of the community [planet]and do the next right thing for "it" not you.....


Sigh.........sorry for the rant
there's a card game at Bubba's tonight...[bring your own...]


Thx
Chet

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #332 on: March 12, 2013, 09:23:02 PM »



 Ok why don't you do something about it then? Stop the bickering and do something. Oh wait you can't... So what is this doing to people on here? Oh wait now it isn't just on the forums it has spread to YouTube. I mean look at what you guys are doing. This is a black eye to our community. And some of you seem to think this is some sort of game.


 Listen either do something about this or quiet down and continue the work. Arguing and bickering like little children, sloshing threats and slurs on character or peoples names isn't going to accomplish anything except show people how unprofessional and childish some in our community really is. It makes us all look bad.


 Anyways I don't remember signing Anyang about not using the information we gain here in anyway. It is not even implied in any sense. This is a open forum for the benefit off all and that includes people who just sign up and walk away with those ideas or methods we devise.


 You have no legal basis to claim anything and to tell you the truth this is all a harassment campaign that I might point out to Stephan. You have all agreed to abide by the rules of the forum and that means having respect for others as long as you don't violate that agreement you can say what you please.


 There are claims that fraud is being committed  and I do not see the proof because proof is not shown.


 Teslatronics has not committed fraud by saying that they can only get the package of information that he has collected. That is a fact. He has a DVD that is to accompany the kits and to a certain degree the lower tiers of donation. That DVD is what he is talking about. All the information will be on the DVD that he has himself collected. What that information is even you do not know. From the video he reports that it will be about Tesla and his fight to free us from the chains that bind us.


As far as the exciter portion of the device he is selling if no one has a patent on it then he is not responsible to report anything at all about it. It was in the public domain. If you guys feel that you have a legal leg to stand on then take it to a lawyer otherwise stop making us look bad by harassing the man and others who are trying to get you to understand this is not good for our community.


 When I release information either about a circuit design or experiment or even the understanding of that process I know once it hits this forum or any other forum that I relinquish any rights to that information period. No amount of me yammering on about how unscientific that process is will change the fact that once it hits the forum it is out of my control.


 And now someone writes that how dangerous it is to play with cfl's... Well that danger is there no matter if he uses that in a normal way or in any other manner. That is pure BS. CFL's are very dangerous because of what they are made of. Nothing will change that fact and alluding that little children will be experimenting with those in such a way is a little inane. The danger is there weather they are walking with it to replace a dead bulb or if it was sitting in the receptacle. There is a better example of danger in regular old electricity and the sockets we use to interface with that electricity. Does that make it any worse, do we have to make videos of electricity killing people now like Edison did with the animals?? You guys are embarrassing all of our community by spreading this crap. The Internet doesn't forget and now we have to recover from this and try to move beyond the petty fights that some are continuing to play out. You know who you are.


 If you have some thoughts on the legal aspects of this then just try to get a lawyer to listen and I bet they would die of laughter. Just try it and see for yourself. Fraud is a legal term and the burden of proof is on the accuser.


 P.S. my name on this forum is jbignes5 not jib or any other disrespectful slur you can think of. I used to have a lot of respect for all the parties here but now I am loosing that respect because of your childish antics.


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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #332 on: March 12, 2013, 09:23:02 PM »
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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #333 on: March 12, 2013, 09:44:54 PM »
Ramset,

It is such a simple thing that one wonders
about those who are unable to grasp the
reality of it:

People are much more inclined to treat
charitably those whom they perceive to
be good and kind;  on the other hand
those who present themselves as being
unkind or bad will be avoided.

It's a self righting ship - even when the
"sheep in wolves clothing" enter into the
transaction.  Deception only works for a
short time.

Those who proclaim that a simple electronic
circuit, which has been in use for decades, is
THEIRS and assign THEIR NAME to it are in truth
the dishonest ones.  What is their motive?

That is one reason why very little serious progress
is made on this topic and why most knowledgeable
folk avoid the forum.  It is petty and small minded.



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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #334 on: March 12, 2013, 09:46:42 PM »

jbigness5


You have the right to your opinion Bud,its how we roll ...


One thing you don't have a right to is my respect,that you have to earn ,it does not come with the ground beneath you're feet,not a geographical thing ..


The day you feel others have no right to any opinion but yours ,will be a lonely day for you!
As far as "telling" the adminis that others don't feel the same way as you?


or telling us what fraud looks like and how your understanding is the end all of that discussion!


??


A child intuitively knows when it does wrong,the price of wrong in these forums grows with every passing day,
unlike yourself there truly are people that need this work like air to breathe,you would not be so "flip" with this work if you or your families lives could depend on success.


Thank you for your opinion ,you have a right to it!


Don't ever think for an instant you have a right to mine!!


Thx
Chet
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Thank you for your opinion!






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« Reply #334 on: March 12, 2013, 09:46:42 PM »
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Offline jbignes5

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #335 on: March 12, 2013, 10:52:42 PM »
jbigness5


You have the right to your opinion Bud,its how we roll ...


One thing you don't have a right to is my respect,that you have to earn ,it does not come with the ground beneath you're feet,not a geographical thing ..


The day you feel others have no right to any opinion but yours ,will be a lonely day for you!
As far as "telling" the adminis that others don't feel the same way as you?


or telling us what fraud looks like and how your understanding is the end all of that discussion!


??


A child intuitively knows when it does wrong,the price of wrong in these forums grows with every passing day,
unlike yourself there truly are people that need this work like air to breathe,you would not be so "flip" with this work if you or your families lives could depend on success.


Thank you for your opinion ,you have a right to it!


Don't ever think for an instant you have a right to mine!!


Thx
Chet
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@SeaMonkey
Thank you for your opinion!


 So again when posed with the put up or shut up you skirt the question and will continue to abuse someone who is actually trying to change the world by getting the information we research out there. Weather or not it includes your ideas or not it was shared in the open source concept without reservation of ownership. When someone says all he had to do was ask for permission that implies control and isn't that why we are here in this forum. That my friend is in deed suppression. What if Slayer or the others who don't have a legal right to say if he could use it said no? <-- THAT'S SUPRESSION. It was shared to the world and nothing says the world can not use it as they see fit. End of story.


 This is just an exercise in ego trip for the parties who are exclaiming fraud and other slurs of character that are being thrown around.


 So lets get back to the family card you throw around and the child card. What in blazes does this have to do with anything of the sort? Except for the heart strings you are trying to pull with that junk. Emotional abuse is the name of that card. Trying to emotionally motivate someone with a rebuttal about innocent children being effected by someone getting the information out there has nothing to do with what is going on here. Nothing. It's a ploy that someone with no legal standing uses to try to sway others into believing their tripe. You got nothing but yet some of you guys persist on using this BS. This is exactly what is gonna and has now given our community the tarnish we don't need. Instead of freely sharing we must now give permission to use and that my friend is bad, really bad. That permission before this event was implied.


 As for you giving me respect it is a requirement of this forum. We all agreed to treat each other with the respect we all deserve. I will not let that be thrown asunder because you can not win an intelligent argument. Isn't that the crux of your argument about asking before using the information that slayer put out there in the public domain? So you and certain others demand the respect before any have earned it with anyone who might drop by and use the information. This my friend is the hypocritical statement that was posed to you and others. You demand and hold others to respect you and then don't hold yourselves to that same standard. Where is your morals? Where is the respect you demand for others? This is why the open source concept is used in these situations it's not about who discovered the information it is weather it is right and correct. We give up the right to control so that others will prove our methods and discoveries in lue of furthering the scientific knowledge we think is wrong in the world. We do not do this because of namesake or accolades we are true scientists who couldn't care less as long as it is correct and repeatable. We are all looking to improve the human condition and it can only be done if no one claims ownership and share it openly in a respectful forum no matter if that information or circuit diagram is used. When we allow ourselves to feed our ego it grows to a point where respect is given after we say so instead of it being implied from the get go.


 Using tactics like these will only drive people we want to explore with us away and maybe even encourage others to do the same as the guy you are bashing, wch I don't think he has done anything wrong.


 Now if he disappears with the money and doesn't do what he has said he will do, like ship the kits or give the DVD with his library of information then yes that's fraud. Until that day comes then do not make accusation you can not prove, for which I ask you guys again, PROVE IT or get on with life and stop abusing this man and his attempt to make a way to get funding to research the processes he has shown with his TESLA coil and exciter.


 At least you got my name partially right this time. Again it is jbignes5. See it isn't about getting things right with you it is about how you avoid paying attention to details. Again put up or get on with life and stop harassing people who want to do something in this field to get the word out.

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #336 on: March 12, 2013, 11:40:21 PM »
Here,I cut and pasted it


>Again it is jbignes5.<
So the Child thing and humanity is a card to you?
Hmm maybe you are a scientist? perhaps even a broad spectrum kinda guy ,A master in Physics,chemistry, Biology, all manner of science as well as engineering fields , some one that can be autonomous at all levels?
Nice,then you don't need a community ,your all set!!


Me I need a community,I work every day towards that goal,I have for years,

thx
Chet


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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #337 on: March 13, 2013, 12:16:10 AM »
"But if you are an engineer you would know that...and I suppose being such and supporting a boy selling RF toys to children would leave you some where between grossly negligent ,or just plain irresponsible ?"


Rest assured Com Warrior is not against unfairly judging others, he's made that crystal clear to many. His behaviors more closely resemble "Mall Cop" than engineer.

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #338 on: March 13, 2013, 12:32:58 AM »
Quote from: Ramset
So the Child thing and humanity is a card to you?
Hmm maybe you are a scientist? perhaps even a broad spectrum kinda guy ,A master in Physics,chemistry, Biology, all manner of science as well as engineering fields , some one that can be autonomous at all levels?
Nice,then you don't need a community ,your all set!!


Me I need a community,I work every day towards that goal,I have for years,

You're clearly addicted to the process
of dialogue - but you're damaging your
credibility with your spurious arguments.

Like "The Unmentionable One" at EF you
just can't see it when you've lost the debate
and you drone on and on with feeble arguments
meant to extoll your own virtues; to expound
upon your greatness; and your self proclaimed
"rightness."

All in error it must be added...

Sayonara - but the friendship remains.


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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #338 on: March 13, 2013, 12:32:58 AM »
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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #339 on: March 13, 2013, 12:33:48 AM »
I just have 1 question for you at this stage Comwarrior, Are you pissed that I didn't do a video for you or did you try to set me up on the 20/1/2013 ?

Link of CW's message asking me to do a video to assainiate a fraudster .......
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i442/Kultus01/NewBitmapImage2_zps22c17603.jpg


we all know your a money making man, Remember Christmas of 2011 ? we all needed to ask our wife's for lots of money so we could purchase a device from you and Vesper That we would only fail at finding FE without ?? I fkn do and so do many others ...


Do you remember destroying the TEEP forum because you didn't understand a circuit that Tinman made and put him under heavy scrutiny, and then when you couldn't prove him wrong You banned everyone who came to his aid in anyway ?? I do and again so do many others .....


Now my Favourite, you sir claim to have a device with 95% efficiency, but when ever someone asks you to show them a video you tell them they have to find the video for them selves, I've watched all of your 100+ videos in search of this mysterious video and again so have many others, so where is it ? that's right it doesn't exist  You make claim that other people are frauds .... YOU SIR ARE A BLOODY FRAUD IN LIFE IT'S SELF, You piggy back on TEEP and the Daftman You have nothing original of your own yet you have the nerve to call others out .... Your a Joke and a fraud, and a nasty man to boot. Yes the truth will come out, and guess what people will learn, they will learn of a man who on his own forum, suppresses his members from free thought, and bans those who don't agree with his ideas .... Funny, I don't think the Iaec has ever banned anyone.... Care to share the numbers on people you have banned CW ??? bet you dont.....   




To introduce Comwarrior to this community in all his glory please watch the video below, I was going to do my own ... but I cannot top Twally on this one as he has knwo Comwarrior the longest out of most of us in the entire community....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70T7NrYXM_4&list=FLsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w   






Sorry guys I wasn't going to comment further here and after this post I wont, I totally agree that the bitching that has been going on is tearing a great hole in this community, however frauds liars and cheats need to be put in their place form time to time...
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 04:47:46 AM by Kultus »

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #340 on: March 13, 2013, 12:39:19 AM »
Sea Monkey
You are correct I don't get it!![being completely sincere].


I will leave this alone and go my way!
Thx
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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #340 on: March 13, 2013, 12:39:19 AM »
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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #341 on: March 13, 2013, 01:08:11 AM »
Here,I cut and pasted it


>Again it is jbignes5.<
So the Child thing and humanity is a card to you?
Hmm maybe you are a scientist? perhaps even a broad spectrum kinda guy ,A master in Physics,chemistry, Biology, all manner of science as well as engineering fields , some one that can be autonomous at all levels?
Nice,then you don't need a community ,your all set!!


Me I need a community,I work every day towards that goal,I have for years,

thx
Chet


 After reading many of your posts, you thrive on... No you get off on being sarcastic and always avoiding the problem or even answer with a clear and honest explanation. Both on here and EF. You trivialize everything we are here for and twist words in such an elegant way. I really like some of the comments about you but I can't repeat them because I do have standards.


 Again I shall refrain from wasting my time on your worthless banter. You have admitted you know little about anything here many many times. You kiss up real well and all the while being condescending to just about everyone. Besides the ones you kiss in the dairy aire.
I mean really what use are you. No published results or anything credible from you. You seem to be a cheer leader of your chosen. And the rest are just.. wait let me quote you... "Douche bag"s. Amazing how you grate on people's nerves and somehow you persist.


 You are wrong in this endeavor as you have been wrong a great many times. Well, so have I but at least I learn from my being wrong. I evolve and change but you sit there reveling in your ignorance and join causes against the very community you pretend to be a part of. Amazing...


 Come on post another aloof post about some poetic phrase that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.


 As for profiting from research done I believe on EF you were all for buying a kit from someone who researched something for the cost of parts and his labor. Isn't that what Teslatronics is doing? Oh wait he didn't ask for a specific amount either it was left up to the ones who donated to further the research on the wireless transmission of energy. Unless Slayer and the rest can pony up the proof that it is a novel circuit and that they have the right to control how it is used by legal means and not by pressure of harassment then they have no legs to stand on. And Teslatronics gives full credit where credit is due. Including the name "Slayer". You have said that yourself.


 So the real deal is that he get down on all fours and ask for permission as well to a circuit that was released in the public and grovel to use it in his device? When you open the great book of electronic circuits in the public domain, do you need to ask for permission to make a device from that? I think not.


 Where is these children that are being hurt by this? This is also being sold under specific instructions that it is not known what the effects are both to other devices and people even. These are kits that are being sold as experimenters kits. Meaning the experimenter knows full well the dangers associated with such a device. He has explained about his fingers getting burned and such fully and warns of such events happening. Those are the facts my friend.


 So lets see the prose you come up with next instead of answering these queries.

 As for what I have done all one needs to do is look on EF and here and see my work. The contributions that I have done and are doing in this community. Working with others to further this effort in every way. I too had to learn by doing and that I did. I to have butted heads with the powers that be and eventually when something like this happened on EF got banned because I called out the group of guys who seemed to prey on the community by taking what wasn't truly theirs by harassment and threats to block any attempt to secure a patent just because on capacitor was added to the circuit. The idea was literally taken from these guys who were the legitimate owners by a patent submission. That's an application if you didn't know. That's why I came here. I tried to stand up for what was right and got banned for the effort and my legitimate posts were deleted. Thank god my other work was still there.

 I will not name names but they know who they are. From what I am seeing this isn't the same thing. This is someone who wants to be in this field and used what he thought was open source material to put his information and his own work together to package and send out that material. There is nothing wrong with that idea. In fact it would do much for this community. I highly doubt Teslatronics will participate in this forum much anymore. Not because of earning money for his research but because he was treated so badly by some of the members and I don't blame him for feeling that way.

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #342 on: March 13, 2013, 03:22:08 AM »


So yah wanna Chat ?
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 01:15:41 PM by ramset »

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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #343 on: March 13, 2013, 01:37:47 PM »
Knock Knock
Ok Jbignes5
Sounds like you want qualifications??


I speak regularly with men attached to this work,everyday.
Fellows that build and share their work thru you tube and these forums!


I have yet to find one  of these men or their representatives that feel the way that you do about
TeslaTronics?[just hung up the phone with one]


However that being said ,I will speak with others also,perhaps not directly connected but
never the less Builders and sharers!


Just for the sake of fairness,How many of the parties involved here, have you
or do you speak with ?


?


Thx
Chet
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To qualify "parties" the men who work and build and share the things being discussed here.
PPS




I have to go soon ......
?



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Re: GBluer(Slayer) Exiter
« Reply #344 on: March 13, 2013, 04:51:57 PM »




 


 


 Come on post another aloof post about some poetic phrase that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.


 


 So the real deal is that he get down on all fours and ask for permission as well to a circuit that was released in the public and grovel to use it in his device? When you open the great book of electronic circuits in the public domain, do you need to ask for permission to make a device from that? I think not.


 Where is these children that are being hurt by this? This is also being sold under specific instructions that it is not known what the effects are both to other devices and people even. These are kits that are being sold as experimenters kits. Meaning the experimenter knows full well the dangers associated with such a device. He has explained about his fingers getting burned and such fully and warns of such events happening. Those are the facts my friend.


 So lets see the prose you come up with next instead of answering these queries.



 

Well lets just hope that T/T got all his licences,testing and registrations in order befor he put out this high voltage toy for sale to the public.
Below are the requirments listed by the electrical governing body of the United State's

Quote: Most jurisdictions require qualifications to do work on any electrical apparatus with voltages above a specified electric potential to ground. This is normally anywhere from 24 to 100 volts depending on the governing body.
 
In most countries, the job of an electrician is a regulated trade for safety reasons due to the many hazards of working with electricity, requiring testing, registration, or licensing. Licensing of electricians is controlled through government or professional societies.

The term high voltage usually means electrical energy at voltages high enough to inflict harm or death upon living things. Equipment and conductors that carry high voltage warrant particular safety requirements and procedures. In certain industries, high voltage means voltage above a particular threshold (see below). High voltage is used in electrical power distribution, in cathode ray tubes, to generate X-rays and particle beams, to demonstrate arcing, for ignition, in photomultiplier tubes, and in high power amplifier vacuum tubes and other industrial and scientific applications.

But im sure T/T took care of all this.

 

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