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Author Topic: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit  (Read 50338 times)

gyulasun

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2010, 05:43:32 PM »
On Fig 4 tell me where the primary and where the secondary is at on the first transformer.

Take care.

nap

I think the primary is the heavy wire in bold lines with 8 symbolic turns and it connects to the generator.  The secondary is the multiturn symbol in the thinner line symbol going to the caps.
Is this what you asked?

rgds, Gyula

baroutologos

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2010, 06:31:02 PM »
How come you can not see connection between this Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit and Edwin Gray's COLD ELECTRICITY and Tesla's scalar wave or longitudnal voltage?? It's same thing, it will not kill you, but it may cure you ;)

radiant energy, cold electricity, negative electricity, flowing ether... too much used terminology among those that usually have not a basic understanding of how simple circuits work.
 
I am not saying that Delboy have not any understanding, i am saying we should refrain from those "catchy" terms especially if we cannot substantiate our claims.

And i am asking, what is the major different between all afore-mentioned weird electricity types and standard high-frequency electricity that the Tesla hairpin produces? please do tell me seriously based on facts

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2010, 10:39:43 PM »
radiant just radiate around , scalar field, one direction ,causes electric current or charge to appear in metals
it is either : beta radiation or positron radiation or magnetic shockwave made by reconnection

delboy

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2010, 08:13:14 AM »
I am not saying that Delboy have not any understanding, i am saying we should refrain from those "catchy" terms especially if we cannot substantiate our claims.
And i am asking, what is the major different between all afore-mentioned weird electricity types and standard high-frequency electricity that the Tesla hairpin produces? please do tell me seriously based on facts
Look at figure 3 (Fig.3). Major difference between standard electricity (low voltage/low frequency) and high frequency/high voltage electricity is that on T-T' you will have some valuable longitudinal voltage. I prefer this term LONGITUDINAL VOLTAGE. For example , if secondar voltage is 90kV / 50kHz you will have approx 60V/m. So receiver connected to C-C' for example length of 1m will have 60V / 50kHz voltage, but longitudinal voltage! Electrons are forced to short circuit C-C' and what a hell is flowing through receiver? What ever is flowing it is powering receiver. You have that IMPEDANCE PHENOMENA as Tesla demonstrated bulb light even when short circuited!
That part of wire C-C' have so small resistance, inducitivity, capacity that it makes ideal source for receiver because receiver see only that part of wire and nothing else!
What to do with 60V 50kHz , it's not standard voltage/frequency? Well use Tesla receiver pat. 685955 ;)

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2010, 10:31:51 AM »
The Hairpin Phenomea, is an goodknow Understanding from each older HAM ( Radio Amateur.

That Patennumbers that you shorn here, have nothing to do with
them.
this  685955 (issued 1901  is replaced with 787412 issued 1905
and shown only an mechanical device that produced from an higher
voltages Condenser (DC) charge an AC (via figure 2)  in frequency range some low Hz to maximum in the under-Kilohertz-range (cps)

An Transforming from this Apparatus over figure 1 (showed) Pancake (or pyramid-cylindrical-pancake  - often used by Tesla)
wil also not preferre or resonate to any higher
frequencies, possibly - even not- any harmonics of ground frequeny.

THIS ITEM is not RECEIVER it is an Transmitter


http://tesla.hu/tesla/patents/p-685955.093/p_093_01.gif

http://www.google.com/patents?q=+685955&btnG=Search+Patents

Gustav Pese

bboj

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2010, 11:23:28 AM »
I think Del is right. It is receiver - amplivfier. But the longitudinal voltage is just the difference between between the two points on the stationary vaves.

delboy

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2010, 12:20:07 PM »
That Patennumbers that you shorn here, have nothing to do with
them.
I agree with you, it is receiver, but I only mentioned that because if you don't want to hold that T-T' with your hands, than you can use Tesla receiver to power something with that longitudinal voltage, or you can use one-wire bulbs, or two wire high vacum bulbs because they don't need convertor of high-to-low frequency as for example standard motor needs because it is consisted of laminated magnetic core and high frequency would mean only high losses!
One more thing that you don't see here is that Tesla solved problem of "filtering" to get pure DC. If you have source voltage of high frequency than you don't need large CAP for filtering of rectified voltage (10 000uF)! Problem is on another side - to have fast recovery diode bridge! If you have fast recovery diode bridge than even 100uF will be enough ;)

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2010, 02:24:02 PM »
Possibly you can use the antenna system from fi1 as receiver antenna.
but firg 2 is R (high voltage DC source)
the lower mechanic part is an PWM  !!
in Mid an condensor that charce DC
the upper mechanik
ist is pol-changer, that witsch the 2 output-leads .  withe polority so that you habe AC.

when you give now attention to following link , you can read upper the
drwawing  - TRANSMITTER -
that you must also understand if you read only the diagram/schematics without  any written text.

Gustav Pese

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=oSo_AAAAEBAJ&dq=685955

Pls. show  the Patent number on the end of this link ( you will receive the newer number from 1905 beginning with 7...  its same Patent.

« Last Edit: March 18, 2010, 05:29:14 PM by pese »

amigo

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Re: Karl Palsness Hairpin circuit
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2010, 12:08:09 AM »
Sigh.

Please. Rather than talking out of your arse and making it what it is not by adding your own wild guesses and theories, find out from the "horses mouth" directly:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1898-11-17.htm

It's disgraceful to Tesla's work any other way.