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FreeEnergy

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2007, 12:41:43 PM »
Just thinking again about the smot.

I was going to use two bar magnets set either side of the metal washers on the up stroke and set them out the same angle as the tradditional smot ramp with a air space either side. North facing in one side and South facing in the other.

I take it this is correct? if not can you expand on what sort of smot you are thinking of.

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Sean.

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i am not sure what you're saying but this should explain it.
make sure the smot is only strong enough to lift arm A, anymore stronger and it wont work.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2007, 08:02:25 AM »
any news CLaNZeR? are you back? :)


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2007, 12:54:40 PM »
Hi

Yep back and usual manic weekend trying to get everything done!

I will find some time this afternoon to get the steel washers attached to the arms and knock up a simple ramp using two magnets and see how it goes, will post the results later.

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Sean.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2007, 02:50:32 PM »
Right had a bit of play with this one and sorry to say I cannot see that she is going to fly.
The main thing is the balance of the arms and the simplest way for me to show this is by doing a little video and you will see what I mean. I am using a small screw driver to emulate the Smot lifting the arms and unless the smot ramp was curved in my mind it is not going to play ball.

http://www.overunity.org.uk/smotg.htm

I tried a few different magnet configs with the ramp and the arms travelled a couple of inches turning the wheel but again getting the height was the problem.
I even used a big smot as below.

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/smotG.jpg)

All good fun though and will pop the magnets back on the arms and mess around when I get more time.
Got to crack on with other projects for now.

Regards

Sean.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2007, 06:48:24 PM by CLaNZeR »

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #94 on: April 23, 2007, 06:19:59 PM »
Sean,
movie is not found under this link,
please update the link.
Many thanks.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #95 on: April 23, 2007, 07:53:59 PM »
Sean,
What kind of hardware is used for your sliding components? Where might I be able to find something like them? Its for something else I'm working on. Thanks!

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #96 on: April 23, 2007, 10:03:13 PM »
CLaNZeR the sliders are not sliding freely enough :-\ this is very important. let me know how it goes.


peace

p.s. will need to build this wheel myself too :)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #97 on: April 23, 2007, 11:07:17 PM »
If you are positioning your smot as per the drawings above, it is impossible to have this lift simply because your arms slide in or out but not up.

To give your smot position as shown in A the best chance, you would have to have the Arm A hanging on a swivel when extended.

Otherwise, if your system is as is try putting the smot like in B. The smot will be in the normal trajectory of the Arm A rotation aiding it to turn over.

Otherwise try like in C, my favorite. This smot position should push the Arm A back upwards while having the natural downward movement of the wheel helping to overcome friction. You may need a bigger smot.

In D, there are smaller smots in succession. This would keep the upwards push while in rotation.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2007, 09:34:23 AM »
CLaNZeR? any news?

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2007, 10:21:33 AM »
Sean,
What kind of hardware is used for your sliding components? Where might I be able to find something like them? Its for something else I'm working on. Thanks!

Tim

Hi Tim

They are THK miniature slides and very accurate, I got them off ebay in america at a very good price as THK in the UK quoted ?58.00 each to buy :(

The guy on Ebay took ages to deliver and I thought I had been ripped off, but they did eventually turn up.

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Sean.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2007, 10:27:07 AM »
CLaNZeR the sliders are not sliding freely enough :-\ this is very important. let me know how it goes.


peace

p.s. will need to build this wheel myself too :)

Shame we lost all the posts from yesterday as I replied to this already LOL :)

The arms are sliding really smooth and should be with the THK rails being used, I am thinking it is more balance than the rails.

If you look at the picture below you can see that maybe I need to mill out a new square and butt the end of the sliders closer together. In other words get rid of the 8mm gap in front of each slider and reduce to 2mm and also with the 6mm gap reduce it to 2mm.

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/FE1-wheel.jpg)

Like I said, will play more when I get the time, I want to get the pulse controller version 4 code finished this week and again a long thread on this got loast yesterday when the server went down grrrrrrrrr, I have updated my site with it though.

Regards

Sean.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2007, 11:06:12 AM »
thanks :)


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2007, 11:19:29 AM »
we must try every possibly way :D

peace
« Last Edit: April 24, 2007, 11:46:22 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #103 on: April 24, 2007, 11:34:52 AM »
by the lifting of only arm A there is enough dis imbalanced momentum to the whole wheel that causes arm C to shift its weight to the right, by this time there is leverage weight arm C and D going against the sticky spot; overcoming the sticky spot?

must be a one-way wheel.


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2007, 11:51:54 PM »
at 22 seconds of the video you can see the arm is not sliding freely enough.

also could you post a video with the smot setup the way i explained?

thanks :)