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FreeEnergy

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #75 on: April 13, 2007, 12:44:29 AM »
thanks but i am sticking to my wheel for now.

peace

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nwman

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #76 on: April 13, 2007, 01:04:36 AM »
Please do! I would still like to ask everyone out there if there is a fully functional SMOT that doesn't have a sticky spot? If you have a working SMOT then devices like this would work no problem.


Notes about your last design change:
I think your going to run into problems with the angles of the forces pushing against the mechanics of the wheel.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #77 on: April 13, 2007, 07:34:01 AM »
Here us a mostly fixed state wheel where only the wheel should move. The wheel is balanced with two ring magnets on the edges of either side. If Tom's STOM design really does what it claims then the two ring magnets should be pulled into the SMOTs on either sides and rotated clockwise and pushed out of the SMOTs thus spinning. This really is simplifying the hole process down to its make physics components. K.I.S.S! So again if the SMOT works then this wheel should accelerate and be easy to pull power off of.

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #78 on: April 13, 2007, 09:37:09 PM »
will see what happens.

peace

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2007, 04:44:54 PM »
Started work on this one today, but got to go do the family thing for a bit, so thought I would do a quick update and I hope I am along he correct tracks!

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/fe1.jpg)

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(http://www.overunity.org.uk/fe3.jpg)

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Hope to do more tomorrow and update.

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Sean.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2007, 09:35:39 PM »
Started work on this one today, but got to go do the family thing for a bit, so thought I would do a quick update and I hope I am along he correct tracks!

Hope to do more tomorrow and update.

Regards

Sean.


thanks for the update! it is looking good :)

make sure the principle is the same as:
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=894.0;attach=8043;image)


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CLaNZeR

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2007, 11:12:34 PM »
Quote from: FreeEnergy
make sure the principle is the same as:

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=894.0;attach=8043;image)
peace

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/fe5.jpg)

Comparing the two it is not too far off and the sliders do exactly as expected at each position.

I have attached some small Neo magnets for now to get the effect of weight while turning the wheel, will lathe some disks off some steel bar tomorrow and attach.

Then the next challenge will be the Smot ramp, ummmmmmmm should be fun.

Must admit one thing that comes to light is that you are not going to be able to spin this one too fast as by just doing it by hand, all arms remain outwards as RPM increases.

But for me personally alot of lessons learnt from building this one as with all other experiements I have done.

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nwman

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2007, 11:26:33 PM »
Your might be able to through some steel washer stacked together on for the weights. Just a thought.

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #83 on: April 15, 2007, 01:28:27 AM »
Your might be able to through some steel washer stacked together on for the weights. Just a thought.

Tim

Excellent idea Tim, save time and effort, will bolt them on tomorrow.

Because of the small size of this unit, I am wondering if a couple of 50mm in length magnets will be okay for the smot, or whever to tape a few together to make a longer ramp, will play more tomorrow.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #84 on: April 15, 2007, 08:20:05 AM »
wow it is looking really great.

another thing i was thinking about is that the smot doesn't actually have to physically touch the rollers. it would probably be better this way anyways. no friction, know what i am saying?




thanks for giving this wheel a chance and saving me time/money. really thanks!

peace
« Last Edit: April 16, 2007, 10:21:44 AM by FreeEnergy »

nwman

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #85 on: April 15, 2007, 11:17:01 AM »
Technically magnets do have friction (heat) but it is still a small amount.

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2007, 10:08:13 AM »
CLaNZeR any updates? :)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2007, 11:20:37 AM »
CLaNZeR any updates? :)

Sorry to say I had to do the family thing on Sunday and did not get much time on line or in my workshop.
I work away from home 5 days a week, so will not get back to it till next weekend.

I can work on other stuff in my hotel room while away such as drawing up PCB's and writing code needed for other projects but with the magnets and wheels I make, it is not so easy to take with you when flying all over the place, I would probably get stopped by security LOL!!

Will update over the weekend coming.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2007, 11:31:18 AM »
CLaNZeR any updates? :)

Sorry to say I had to do the family thing on Sunday and did not get much time on line or in my workshop.
I work away from home 5 days a week, so will not get back to it till next weekend.

I can work on other stuff in my hotel room while away such as drawing up PCB's and writing code needed for other projects but with the magnets and wheels I make, it is not so easy to take with you when flying all over the place, I would probably get stopped by security LOL!!

Will update over the weekend coming.


cool man thanks for the update  :D

i can't wait! (http://hackersclub.net/unity/e107_images/emotes/default/joy.gif)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2007, 11:52:14 AM »
Just thinking again about the smot.

I was going to use two bar magnets set either side of the metal washers on the up stroke and set them out the same angle as the tradditional smot ramp with a air space either side. North facing in one side and South facing in the other.

I take it this is correct? if not can you expand on what sort of smot you are thinking of.

Regards

Sean.