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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2006, 06:04:26 AM »
I think it will not work.
You have just drawn the sticky spot.
Why should it turn on, when the magnet has "grabbed" one lever arm ?

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2006, 08:57:54 AM »
it has grabbed one lever arm but there are two other levers running free shifting weight to the right side making kinetic energy. if the right side is not heavy enough to break from the sticky spot, then the kinetic energy can be preserved as electric energy with some kind of circuit to turn off the magnetic field so it wont be stuck to the sticky spot.

* the magnet's location varies. would have to try different arrangements to see which is better.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2006, 06:16:46 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2006, 10:42:35 PM »
yeah ive been studying this wheel for a while now and yeah you are right. it will not work.  :-X
i could be wrong.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2006, 11:39:56 PM »
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yeah ive been studying this wheel for a while now and yeah you are right. it will not work.  Lips Sealed
i could be wrong.

What made you reach that conclusion?

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2006, 01:25:15 AM »
well if anything it just might work with some kind of circuit setup like i mentioned above. only with circuit setup though...im not sure

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2006, 01:32:36 AM »
See, the goal is to avoid any external energy input whatsoever. Also, I don't think you should easily give up on this before you at least carry out careful calculations applying the methods of Strength of Materials (the branch of Mechanics civil engineers use the most) or model it with a program that uses these methods to calculate the forces. What we're doing here is just judging by intuition which may be misleading in the long run (both pro and con).

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2006, 03:00:06 AM »
I believe that it doesn't work. ( religious argumentation ) :)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2006, 08:50:55 AM »
wheel phases without magnet/circuit

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2006, 06:12:41 AM »
please if someone could point me to the right direction for turning on/off magnetic fields using simple circuit setups? i really think this wheel will work with the help of turning on/off magnetic fields.

thanks guys,

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it has grabbed one lever arm but there are two other levers running free shifting weight to the right side making kinetic energy. if the right side is not heavy enough to break from the sticky spot, then the kinetic energy can be preserved as electric energy with some kind of circuit to turn off the magnetic field so it wont be stuck to the sticky spot.

* the magnet's location varies. would have to try different arrangements to see which is better.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2006, 06:39:15 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2006, 06:12:41 AM »
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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2006, 10:02:12 PM »
Once you add the electricity required to make it run, you have (once again) invented the electric motor!


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2006, 01:30:41 AM »
This magnetic motor will not rotate forever.  The reason I say this is that it will reach equilibrium since the arm that is attracted to the magnet must also conteract the torque moment generated from the previous arm that is still positioned outward.   

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2006, 02:14:45 PM »
Good finally is apearing some people that really understand fisiscs and how they work...

Good answers valvaman and Jake.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2006, 02:29:18 AM »
till i learn about turning off/on magnetic fields this will not work i think.

i already said that the arm is attracted to the magnet, once that happens there will be two other arms running free creating kinetic energy, this energy can be preserved with some kind of circuit with capacitor to turn on/off the arm stuck to the magnet.

if anything..all this can be made to work mechanically without circuits. would be a lot harder...or not

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2006, 02:37:01 AM »
this is from a private messenge...

hi (from germany)

i  see this morning your (bessler) wreel  that was  designet 4 week ago.
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very interesting. its was an mashine in my zown thas was working like this.
(i as child , an dnot understand all.
this man was not nor living an now 50 jears past.

an bessler  maschine will work

als in us it was one in 1800  you know ?

pese

;)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2006, 03:14:18 AM »
Who says the arms need to be made out of a ferrous material? Forgive me if I haven't read anything, but just looking at the design. Seems the arms could me made out of Plastic with lead weights attached. Even so, nothing prevents the weights from sliding back on the bottom so it won't work. You've got one weight pulling three up hill, during one phase. Inertia won't be enough to compensate.

 

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