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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #105 on: April 29, 2007, 08:44:24 AM »
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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #106 on: April 29, 2007, 07:38:12 PM »
CLaNZeR?

Sorry mate, as stated above I will get the Version 4 Pulse Controller out the way and have more of a play with this one later on.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2263.0.html

I will get around to it, all in good time :)

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #107 on: April 29, 2007, 08:41:17 PM »
CLaNZeR?

Sorry mate, as stated above I will get the Version 4 Pulse Controller out the way and have more of a play with this one later on.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2263.0.html

I will get around to it, all in good time :)

Cheers

Sean.




no problem, thanks for the update.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #107 on: April 29, 2007, 08:41:17 PM »
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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2007, 02:01:22 PM »
hopefully this wheel works, according to my physics this wheel should work. the smot should be the easiest part.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2007, 11:01:48 AM »
i was just thinking...Wally Minto's heat wheel would work great with my wheel too! just mixing ideas here...  :D

http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/minto.html

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #110 on: May 15, 2007, 09:28:40 AM »
Myth busters tried the hear wheel and it worked but it really didn't "work". It turned but at like 1/2 revolution a day.

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2007, 06:41:25 AM »
Myth busters tried the hear wheel and it worked but it really didn't "work". It turned but at like 1/2 revolution a day.

Tim

I don't think they built it right. I think I know of a better way.


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2007, 09:03:42 AM »
Even if you could make it work better it still uses solar energy to run. If you can make it more then 40% efficient then you might have something. The best solar cells today are only 38% efficient.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2007, 10:04:06 AM »
You don't need solar cells for that, you can focus and project heat using discs or panels.
Plenty of heat, then, see these fi :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6616651.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q4UENGN_Yk

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2007, 10:12:09 AM »
You don't need solar cells for that, you can focus and project heat using discs or panels.
Plenty of heat, then, see these fi :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6616651.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q4UENGN_Yk




you beat me to it! ;)

we can also use the earth's heat...also have you seen those type of cups that has a thin layer and has liquid between the thin layer?(the one you put in the freezer so your beer gets really cold :) ) well that technology can be applied for fast heat evaporation :) and yes we would use something that evaporates at a fast rate, something like thinner or alcohol, etc.


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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2007, 07:53:02 PM »
Again both those idea use solar energy. The energy is coming from the sun. I like both those ideas in the videos and think they have real merit. The only down side them is that they need direct sunlight. The best case scenario would be to have the pure solar reflection arrays set up in space to collect the sun 24/7 with no interference with the atmosphere and then relay hat energy back down to earth via something like a lazier. Again its all solar energy.

Tim

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #116 on: May 18, 2007, 11:20:43 AM »
at 22 seconds of the video you can see the arm is not sliding freely enough.

also could you post a video with the smot setup the way i explained?

thanks :)
The problem here is that the arms are reacting too late. You see that the gliding arms are by gravity pulled out AFTER it has passed the top of the wheel, and are pushed in AFTER it has passes the bottom of the wheel. This time delay is impossible to ignore because of friction, and are also the cause why this gravity wheel does not spin alone. To make the gliders reacting BEFORE they pass the top and the bottom of the wheel, it require energy input, and then the wheel will start to rotate. There must also be an inbalance in when the arms are pulled or pushed. If it was possible to force the arms to be in "out possition" for shorter time than in "in possition", it also might work - but how do you do that?

The solution is NOT to attach a few stator magnets to attract the gliders earlier, because the angle of gravity will also change in the same direction. There must be another way to make this work.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #117 on: May 18, 2007, 11:35:51 AM »
Even if you could make it work better it still uses solar energy to run. If you can make it more then 40% efficient then you might have something. The best solar cells today are only 38% efficient.

Tim
Thats correct, all we have here on planet earth is powered by the sun. There is limitless of ways, or maybe roundabout ways, to utilize this energy. To utilize this energy directly, I believe is more efficient than any other types. However, the efficiency must also include the energy required to make a generator, if it is made as a solar panel or other types of generators.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2007, 11:26:11 AM »
i think i have said this before but, the kinetic energy of arm C can be used to block arm A's sticky spot. well not completely block it, but decrease the magnetic field to some degree.

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Re: magnet-gravity wheel
« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2007, 08:34:20 PM »
i think i have said this before but, the kinetic energy of arm C can be used to block arm A's sticky spot. well not completely block it, but decrease the magnetic field to some degree.

peace
I have then a few questions:
Where do the kinetic energy come from?
How much kinetic energy is present in the time when shielding?
How much will the shielding process brake the rotation?

If the kinetic energy come from the device itself, the kinetic energy is already limited by the forces which made it. In theory, the counter force which occurs when shielding, plus loss, is probably the same or more than the forces which made the kinetic energy available in the first place. So it will stop. I assume you're talking about the arms in the first drawings you made.

Br.

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