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4Tesla

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The world's only immortal animal
« on: March 19, 2010, 01:03:50 AM »
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2010, 02:05:26 AM »
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jadaro2600

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2010, 06:46:25 AM »
One point for the Pastafarian team.
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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2010, 07:35:52 AM »
all Cancer cells are inherently immortal, they lack the gene that causes self destruction, so long as cancer has nutrition and remains unstressed it can live forever.

it would not be a pretty picture having immortal humans stuck on one world and no other place to expand. if we lived in space directly it would help but in the end it still would not be a pretty picture.
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 08:15:30 AM »
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on March 19, 2010, 07:35:52 AM
all Cancer cells are inherently immortal, they lack the gene that causes self destruction, so long as cancer has nutrition and remains unstressed it can live forever.

it would not be a pretty picture having immortal humans stuck on one world and no other place to expand. if we lived in space directly it would help but in the end it still would not be a pretty picture.

your jump from cancer cells having a telomerase gene to them being immortal is disingenuous. i think you are missing a few key points... the term immortal in regards to cancer cells does not imply that individual cells live forever, but refers to the ability of a cancer cell colony to replenish itself indefinitely under suitable conditions. this is contrary to the behavior of normal cell populations which exhibit the phenomenon of replicative or cellular senescence, where cells lose the ability to divide after a certain number of cell divisions, typically between 50 and 70 in human cell lines.

and just how did you jump from cancer cells being 'immortal' to humans having the same capacity?
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onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2010, 08:48:33 AM »
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 19, 2010, 08:15:30 AM
your jump from cancer cells having a telomerase gene to them being immortal is disingenuous. i think you are missing a few key points... the term immortal in regards to cancer cells does not imply that individual cells live forever, but refers to the ability of a cancer cell colony to replenish itself indefinitely under suitable conditions. this is contrary to the behavior of normal cell populations which exhibit the phenomenon of replicative or cellular senescence, where cells lose the ability to divide after a certain number of cell divisions, typically between 50 and 70 in human cell lines.

and just how did you jump from cancer cells being 'immortal' to humans having the same capacity?

How did you not?
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2010, 09:00:42 AM »
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on March 19, 2010, 08:48:33 AM
How did you not?
i like how you avoided the question ::) but i'll be your huckleberry anyways... it's because i understand the function of the presence of the telomerase gene in certain cells, and its lack of presence in others. obviously you do not or you wouldn't be asking that question. i suppose next you will be wanting us all to believe that a cancer cell is an animal...
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ResinRat2

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 01:17:00 PM »
OK, ok now, let's have peace on earth everybody.

This "immortal" squid, I am just curious what are its natural enemies? If these squid are starting to explode in population, then I would expect its predator(s) to expand in population as well.
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 01:26:50 PM »
That explains a lot...the seemilngly ageless wanted war criminal Henry Kissinger is actually a cancerous mass.

Probably started out as a hemorrhoid on someone's ass.



"Which came first---the chicken or the egg?"


Thats easy..it was the rooster.

Regards...


« Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 09:53:03 PM by Cap-Z-ro »
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ramset

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 01:39:05 PM »
Hmm...[Stefanism]
They say you are what you eat??
I wonder if its contagious [immortality]

The turritopsis nutricula species of jellyfish ,its whats for dinner! :D

Yah know somebodies gonna eat em!
Joan Rivers is probably filling up her swimming pool with them!
I can already see the commercial for powdered  turritopsis nutricula species of jellyfish !

Chet
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ResinRat2

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2010, 03:47:41 PM »
That's great ramset,

I can see it now: The secret ingredient this week at Kitchen Stadium is --- turritopsis nutricula jellyfish.  ALA CUISINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, if that jelly-blob was found to extend the life-span of human beings then...it's TOAST!
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4Tesla

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2010, 06:49:00 PM »
Quote from: ResinRat2 on March 19, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
That's great ramset,

I can see it now: The secret ingredient this week at Kitchen Stadium is --- turritopsis nutricula jellyfish.  ALA CUISINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, if that jelly-blob was found to extend the life-span of human beings then...it's TOAST!

I don't think eating it will do anything, but maybe scientist studying the genetics.
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jadaro2600

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2010, 09:26:00 PM »
Quote from: ResinRat2 on March 19, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
That's great ramset,

I can see it now: The secret ingredient this week at Kitchen Stadium is --- turritopsis nutricula jellyfish.  ALA CUISINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, if that jelly-blob was found to extend the life-span of human beings then...it's TOAST!

Non-sense, it's not toast, ..it's soon to be oppressed patent.
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2010, 09:56:48 PM »

" Wow, if that jelly-blob was found to extend the life-span of human beings then...it's TOAST! "


Hmmm, maybe not what if its a suppository ?

Regards...

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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: The world's only immortal animal
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2010, 11:12:13 PM »
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on March 19, 2010, 02:05:26 AM
The only immortal animal?  Well, actually, there is at least one other animal...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_amoeba_a_immortal_micro-organism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality
"Which came first---the chicken or the egg?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_the_egg
Maybe I spoke too soon?
I appears the single-cell paramecium does die eventually:

http://jcs.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/41/1/177.pdf

--Lee
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