Author Topic: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils (Read 265857 times)

Rosphere · « **Reply #180 on:** May 06, 2010, 01:05:27 PM »

OMG!

That is so sick, dude!

I was not sure where you were going with all those pins. I thought it was to be a Keely type of idea mixed-in with your agentgates device. Turns out they were just a bunch of tiny knitting needles.

I can not wait to see how it works out for you.

Nice job.

ElectricGoose · « **Reply #181 on:** May 06, 2010, 02:02:30 PM »

Quote from: Mk1 on May 06, 2010, 12:07:15 PM

@e-goose

I never tried led on it , but i can say one thing there are many sweet spots
I should make a video of it , so those sweet spots show the bright light but dim under load , and others don't this is the thing i noticed on one of my first coil , also i don't have the tools to do a proper output reading , i just have a lousy multimeter , that goes crazy on the coil so i use bulbs ...

Mark

Edit

Try connecting a diode full bridge between both transistor collector , check the output there ...

I am quite surprised you got it working at low amps but the fun is higher , what transistor do you use ?

But all and all , the jt never was claimed as a OU device , my coil used for many more experiments on the tpu ...

Mark

Yeh, there is certainly some interesting aspects to the coil for sure!

I have a very good Fluke Multi but even that goes nuts sometimes and I suspect it is when the spikes are just way too high. I had trouble sourcing what was going on with the scope but I suggest putting a very small load in front of your Multi probes (resistor) and that seems to iron out the issue.

Transistors? For low voltage, high gain results I love using the NPN BC546 which has a HFE >110. I prefer it to the 2N3904/06 Darlington pair although this was what I was using also. They are really robust and cheap too.
Once you have tuned everything in at low volts, I switch to two Darlingtons (a Darlington NPN + Darlington PNP each in their own package with very high HFE. If you have tuned it right, it will still run off 1AA with next to no drain.

Darlington NPN = BD681 (HFE >750)
Darlington PNP = BD682 (HFE >750)

Regards

E-Goose

tysb3 · « **Reply #182 on:** May 08, 2010, 05:15:20 AM »

Hi

@ all

It's claimed to be cosed loop:

http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=455.300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-4w1kkHwY&feature=player_embedded

Do not use an enamelled wire. It's need to be good isolation for high voltage

wattsup · « **Reply #183 on:** May 08, 2010, 05:51:19 PM »

@MK1

Love the build. Nice work indeed. Now to see how to drive it?

If you need suggestions, let us know.

I asked this before but cannot remember of you answered or not.

What is the frequency range of your pulsing device. Can you go up to 20mhz. At least above 1mhz you will probably see the best effects.

wattsup

innovation_station · « **Reply #184 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:24:54 PM »

Quote from: tysb3 on May 08, 2010, 05:15:20 AM

Hi

@ all

It's claimed to be cosed loop:

http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=455.300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-4w1kkHwY&feature=player_embedded

Do not use an enamelled wire. It's need to be good isolation for high voltage

it looks like a cam board with a few spark gaps .... lol

find a cam board i can do the same only small scale ..

indeed it is self running...

: )

charge the cam board ... discharge it through the flash ... some engery remains in the cap .... NOW OPEN AND CLOSE THE FLASH SWITCH YOU WILL SEE SPARKS... the voltage will climb ...

regards

ist

i have it on video some where ; )

MrMag · « **Reply #185 on:** May 09, 2010, 02:37:08 AM »

Holy Crap M1. What a beautiful looking coil. I sure hope it works after all the work you have put into it.
You know, you are going to go crazy with all the build questions if people want to start replicating.

jeanna · « **Reply #186 on:** May 11, 2010, 09:10:53 PM »

Wow, Mark, this is a beautiful coil!

Please count me in for a screensaver.

Is every pair followed by a separate pick up wrapped around?
Or are they all connected to each other by wires somehow?
And, is each tier a new pair of wires?

Thanks again for sharing this work so carefully.

jeanna

Mk1 · « **Reply #187 on:** May 12, 2010, 01:14:35 AM »

@jeanna

Hi !

Well i really did not have time to play with it yet ,

The yellow wire are bifilar coil a regular jt pair , then you have 18 turns secondary big fat wire , then i repeat the operation 4 times , the first tree layers are off set by 120 degrees , the is a fifth bifilar layer over the whole coil .

The secondaries are wound in opposite directions .

Many thing can be done it can be simple like connecting each layers in series on a single jt circuit , or many circuits .

The bifilar layers can them self be connecting is series to become one wire.

This is going to be fun !

@wattsup

I may need help eventually , as for the freq it is quite flexible , and i am planing in a near future to experiment with you new setup the open ended one ...

I have a question , do the pulses need to be square , can radiant pulses do the same .

Thanks.

Mark

Mk1 · « **Reply #188 on:** May 15, 2010, 11:32:25 PM »

@all

Here is a movie from samesoft on youtube , look how there is no coupling between coil at 90 degree .

http://www.youtube.com/user/samedsoft#p/u/1/i-AGu1Hy-qc

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #189 on:** May 16, 2010, 07:45:28 AM »

Mark:

That is very interesting. None at all at 90 degrees. It appeared that it began somewhere around 45 but it was hard to tell as he seemed to only hold it at an angle once.

That was a very clear demonstration that he did. I sure learned something. Thanks,

Bill

stprue · « **Reply #190 on:** May 18, 2010, 12:54:03 AM »

Cool vid Mark

This is just standard inductive coupling even though I'm not sure why there is directionality

It looks like this individual made a replication of this one....much more powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ODW-ntPHSU

Mk1 · « **Reply #191 on:** May 18, 2010, 06:12:28 AM »

@kooler and jeanna

I hope those are alright.

@all

Sorry about the page dimension it won't happen again .

wattsup · « **Reply #192 on:** May 18, 2010, 05:43:56 PM »

@Mk1

If this continues we will have to change your user name to @coilweaver - lol.

Really nice build but again, the fun will be in driving it. But how??????????

There may be some conflicting winds in the build that may be better left disconnected as filler material but all this you will have to
discover with trying many drive methods.

I would start by putting all the thick horizontals in series and pulsing one end only with the positive of your FG. Put leds on each
of the 45 degree winds (45DWs) then see how the energy is being dispersed from one to the others. Then start putting the
45DWs in series and see the effects. Then in parallel.

In your second photo where you show the twisting wires that go over one center wire, then under the next, then over the next,
that may be a conflict to initiate any forward flow. I have found that such winds work better when the twist is full so you have
the same polarity always going under the center wire and the other polarity always going on the top of the center wire. This then
favors one direction more then the other otherwise you can create unwanted bottlenecks in the energy flow.

Also, if you ever need a driving partner and you can mail me a coil (or sell me one - lol) and I will do it in so many ways up to 20mhz
and compare these to what I know already. If you are in the US or Canada, that is, otherwise it would be rather expensive to send it
anywhere. Just thought I'd offer this to possibly help you out.

Anyways, keep well and as usual good works.

samedsoft · « **Reply #193 on:** May 19, 2010, 09:08:31 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 16, 2010, 07:45:28 AM

Mark:

That is very interesting. None at all at 90 degrees. It appeared that it began somewhere around 45 but it was hard to tell as he seemed to only hold it at an angle once.

That was a very clear demonstration that he did. I sure learned something. Thanks,

Bill

Dear Pirate,

I was me. I replicated this from Marko Bakula. I have studied it as of my master thesis work for wireless power transmission.

I have also studied Dr. Stiffler work.

You are very good friend.. Anyone can download my thesis pdf and study my findings..

http://www.teslaint.com/nuri_temurlenk_tez.pdf

Thanks..

kooler · « **Reply #194 on:** May 29, 2010, 03:42:22 AM »

mk1
thanks for the pic's
i got one for a background now..
awesome coil

robbie

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