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Author Topic: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils  (Read 225030 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #165 on: May 04, 2010, 12:30:59 AM »
Very nice work MK
This whole page is some next level shizzle my nizzle.  =]

Are you pulling the pins after its finished?

Mags

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #166 on: May 04, 2010, 07:35:08 AM »
@Mag

Hi , yes i will remove them and most likely wind 2 more coil trough the empty space left by the nails , but i have yet to decide the coil angle and design .

I could go the regular way it maybe good for a feed back since it to won't couple directly , or  the same angle as the coil , or even Rodin but i have to see it there is a way to fit it on 94 pegs .

I used almost all the wire form a mot the big one , so one bifilar is 16 revolution 94 ups and downs per coil of 16 turns , there are 4 like that with 18 turns of fat wire in between each, so time 4...

Mark 

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #167 on: May 05, 2010, 05:23:43 AM »
@all

Its now off of the tube this thing is over one pound quite heavy.

2 more wires to seal the deal.

Mark


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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #167 on: May 05, 2010, 05:23:43 AM »
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Offline kooler

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #168 on: May 05, 2010, 05:59:26 AM »
mk1
dude you done lost me..  that is alot of wire.. i'm hoping to hear good results..
looks good
are you going to run each layer different or all with the same feq

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #169 on: May 05, 2010, 06:25:16 AM »
kooler:

What a great question to open up yet another series of possible variables.  I can't get my brain around running the different wires at different freqs but, what if you could do that?  Who knows where this might lead?  What if you put ALL of them at resonance at the same time???

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #170 on: May 05, 2010, 10:30:47 AM »
@all

I am almost done one wire left to put on , but one of the pickup coil wire broke off so i will have to re do the last coil i put on  >:(...

@kooler pirate

Yes there will be more possibility since there is no magnetic material it will be possible to up to 5 jt running at the same time or only one .

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #171 on: May 05, 2010, 02:53:38 PM »
Great job Mark, that coil/s looks amazing!!!

You may get OU but nobody will be able to replicate your coil.....lol

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #172 on: May 06, 2010, 02:47:17 AM »
@all

I am almost done one wire left to put on , but one of the pickup A wire broke off so i will have to re do the last A i put on  >:(...

@kooler pirate

Yes there will be more possibility since there is no magnetic material it will be possible to up to 5 jt running at the same time or only one .

Nice job Mk!  Hope you can salvage all that copper  ;D because although these coils are extremely efficient, there is no OU unfortunately.

E-Goose

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #173 on: May 06, 2010, 05:38:36 AM »
Nice job Mk!  Hope you can salvage all that copper  ;D because although these coils are extremely efficient, there is no OU unfortunately.

E-Goose
the ou would be just a plus.. this is really ART
i would like to have a high res pic of it to use as a desktop wallpaper..
the attention of detail is what i like

robbie

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #174 on: May 06, 2010, 05:43:31 AM »
the ou would be just a plus.. this is really ART
i would like to have a high res pic of it to use as a desktop wallpaper..
the attention of detail is what i like

robbie

I agree with you 100%.  Also, since this has not been done before as far as I know, I would not be so sure to claim "no OU" just yet as has been posted above by someone else.  Mark is venturing into uncharted waters as far as I can know.  I commend his efforts.  As you said, if nothing else, it is a beautiful piece of art.

Bill

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #175 on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:10 AM »
@kooler and pirate

I may get you some screen saver quality picture soon  :D

@E-Goose

Its not a necessary end game for me over unity , to me its more a over use of what i have .

I am how ever interested in your result , would you be kind enough to bring some substance to the claim , numbers maybe photos , and process used to determine the results .

I never constructed anything that was not totally recyclable .

I started with one bulb i could light , now i got 5 it lights a 4v 500 mili bulb , and i can run my bendini fan motor/generator from a 1.2 volts instead of 9-12 volts.

I really don't consider it wasted time , i believe making small steps learning all the way , i do see constant progress.

More detail Please !!!

Kind regard

Mark

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #175 on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:10 AM »
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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #176 on: May 06, 2010, 06:13:54 AM »
@kooler and pirate

I may get you some screen saver quality picture soon  :D


kool.. i'll take mine in a 1920 X 1200 res
when you get time..   :D

robbie

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #177 on: May 06, 2010, 11:41:52 AM »
@kooler and pirate

I may get you some screen saver quality picture soon  :D

@E-Goose

Its not a necessary end game for me over unity , to me its more a over use of what i have .

I am how ever interested in your result , would you be kind enough to bring some substance to the claim , numbers maybe photos , and process used to determine the results .

I never constructed anything that was not totally recyclable .

I started with one bulb i could light , now i got 5 it lights a 4v 500 mili bulb , and i can run my bendini fan motor/generator from a 1.2 volts instead of 9-12 volts.

I really don't consider it wasted time , i believe making small steps learning all the way , i do see constant progress.

More detail Please !!!

Kind regard

Mark

Hi Mark

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across negative or killjoy and I agree with your sentiments.  'Trial and error' experimentation (making things) is NEVER a waste of time, especially when you walk away from the experience learning just one new thing (even if it is how not to make the same mistake again  :D ).

Like you I have been building various coils and slowly the volts climb a little bit with each design.  Some coils you keep, others are real 'Doc Brown' Masterpieces like yours and others you recycle, otherwise after a very short time you have no space and boxes of crazy coils you can't remember did what. 

I have messed with the Rodin Type before and when you started posting here I adapted a few older jigs I had and made a couple variants while you were still getting your big jig right.  As previously mentioned I don't have a digi so no pics (sorry) but the diameter is probably larger than yours although NOT as tightly spaced (pegs further apart).  I went for a slightly different approach and wound two internal 'toroids' spaced with a mulitstrand collector coil (8 turns or so), then built two more 'toroids' of basketweave.  I then placed another collector on the perimeter.  After removing the pegs I ran another collector cable through the peg holes.  Its certainly very pretty with all the different cable color  :)

Results -

It runs on very low current and you can crank the resistor at base very high with the led lit at E/C still ultra bright.  This however comes at a cost to the heavy collector coils running between the layers and their output will drop right down

I used my own JT Circuit with Darlington pair (but not the one you posted).

It is NOT possible to reap from multiple collectors AND a central coil within the toroid core.  Using too many collectors disrupts the 'flow'. 

The cable which runs through the old peg holes collects NOTHING.

That's all I can think of for now.

Kind regards

E-Goose

Offline Mk1

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #178 on: May 06, 2010, 12:07:15 PM »
@e-goose

I never tried led on it , but i can say one thing there are many sweet spots
I should make a video of it , so those sweet spots show the bright light but dim under load , and others don't this is the thing i noticed on one of my first coil , also i don't have the tools to do a proper output reading , i just have a lousy multimeter , that goes crazy on the coil so i use bulbs ...

Mark

Edit

Try connecting a diode full bridge between both transistor collector , check the output there ...

I am quite surprised you got it working at low amps but the fun is higher , what transistor do you use ?

But all and all , the jt never was claimed as a OU device , my coil used for many more experiments on the tpu ...

 

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Re: Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils
« Reply #179 on: May 06, 2010, 12:36:18 PM »
@all

Done!

 

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