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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 682920 times)

Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #630 on: April 27, 2013, 03:27:55 PM »
Oh boy, DomiChi but you said that if it was available that you would buy it, now you are backing off your own words? You really don't stand up for what you say, and here I was thinking that you would buy it and finally prove that it is a scam but there you go again with the same old childish arguments about the user names in a forum.

I guess when you run out of things to say you just spit anything that comes out of your butt.

But why? Do you not believe on Yildiz now? What changed? :O :O :O
I said that I want to buy a kit, not an expensive industrial one. And not from an industrial which can make it bad, and create magnetic potential wells (http://www.supermagnete.de/project68 at end page). Yildiz engine needs adjustment to work (like it is said in the pattent).
user names in a forum: When you chose your pseudo, you show your mindset. We can see what we can expect from a Ghost, just trouble, otherwise stay hidden. Or a shadow which prevents light to be present.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #630 on: April 27, 2013, 03:27:55 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #631 on: April 27, 2013, 03:29:38 PM »
@tk.steorn and naudin are no fools,what they show to public and what they do behind closed doors are entirely different yet related things buddy.yilditz is a giant question mark for now,unless you have evidence for fraud.
I ain't your buddy, buddy, and I didn't ask what they have or don't have. I asked whether or not they are running their homes and offices and laboratories on any of the "free energy" devices they've made claims for, or are they still on the national grid. And since you and I both know the answer to that... you reply as you have done, with another claim that you can't provide evidence for.
Until Yildiz provides _actual proof_ of his claims, which he has never done, the default position of any person with any kind of reasoning ability at all is that he is faking it. And the evidence that _does exist_... since it can easily be replicated by ordinary means... does not support him, but rather supports the hypothesis of fakery.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #632 on: April 27, 2013, 03:40:08 PM »
I ain't your buddy, buddy, and I didn't ask what they have or don't have. I asked whether or not they are running their homes and offices and laboratories on any of the "free energy" devices they've made claims for, or are they still on the national grid. And since you and I both know the answer to that... you reply as you have done, with another claim that you can't provide evidence for.
Until Yildiz provides _actual proof_ of his claims, which he has never done, the default position of any person with any kind of reasoning ability at all is that he is faking it. And the evidence that _does exist_... since it can easily be replicated by ordinary means... does not support him, but rather supports the hypothesis of fakery.
@TinselKoala: Hey buddy, when you say "they still on the national grid. And since you and I both know the answer to that..." , how they can sell to national provider if they are not on grid?
(like droopy "I'm happy", I learn a new English word "buddy" ;-) )
As Allan said, now we have to wait for industrial product to let it turn long enough. And I agree that it is not good from Yildiz. Even if he has great magnetism intuition, Yildiz miss marketing capacity.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #632 on: April 27, 2013, 03:40:08 PM »
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Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #633 on: April 27, 2013, 05:15:42 PM »
I said that I want to buy a kit, not an expensive industrial one. And not from an industrial which can make it bad, and create magnetic potential wells (http://www.supermagnete.de/project68 at end page). Yildiz engine needs adjustment to work (like it is said in the pattent).
user names in a forum: When you chose your pseudo, you show your mindset. We can see what we can expect from a Ghost, just trouble, otherwise stay hidden. Or a shadow which prevents light to be present.

Start reading the things that you talk about or you will just look even more pathetic.

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He also told me: "The open license will be done for the simple designs. Not industrial types" [which the above refer to].

The open license would basically consist of people being able to download plans for the motor, and if they are successful in building a company or product around that, they they would remit a royalty (e.g. 5% is what I'm recommending) on all commercial sales.

You don't have anymore excuses now that I pointed this out for you since you are really lazy on the reading.

Buy the plan, build the product and don't come back with more excuses, either you do what you said you would do and stop going after irrelevant childish arguments about user names and mindsets or you just shut up and admit by silence that this is a scam.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #634 on: April 27, 2013, 05:28:06 PM »
Your dear "Prof. J. Duarte" is as insightfull in the magnetic mechanics as a retard with a yoyo, just look at this outstanding top of the line scientific observation of the motor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S46QPophJbo

I really like the part at 1:04. "he is gonna try to change the speed of rotation"
And.. its the same shit as before, a wobling fan powered by hand in a motor that does nothing at all by itself.

But I guess what we all need from a very smart man like Duarte is his most smart words at 1:17 "doopshtoop doopshtoop and it goes... it is not so simple" and at the beginning "you see that? ahyeahyeahyeah you see the futuuure".

God damn retarded all around.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #634 on: April 27, 2013, 05:28:06 PM »
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Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #635 on: April 27, 2013, 05:49:58 PM »
@tinselkoala..'as you and i both know the answer to that'?im sorry,i dont know wether they are on the national grid or not.besides,its irrelevent.is andrea rossi powering his laptop with lenr relevent to the validity of cold fusion? Philosophical questions.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #636 on: April 27, 2013, 05:52:01 PM »
Shadowpt:

lol It is one of the more bizarre clips in this episode.  I can just hear any physics teacher explaining what is being observed in my head.  "Note how the rotational energy is being converted into magnetic potential energy.  Then it gets over the peak and the magnetic potential energy gets converted back into the rotational energy less the friction losses.  You can do an integral of the torque as a function of angle, from the start angle to the finish angle to calculate the stored magnetic potential energy.  When that stored magnetic potential energy is released it gets converted back into rotational energy.  Note the instantaneous acceleration of the rotor is the instantaneous torque on the rotor divided by the moment of inertia of the rotor."

So that's something like what a physics teacher would say.  Instead you get this bizarre scene with these men gawking at a "magnet motor" like they they have never observed this property of magnets before in their lives.

It's a watershed moment for sure.

MileHigh

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #636 on: April 27, 2013, 05:52:01 PM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #637 on: April 27, 2013, 06:09:50 PM »
Buy the plan, build the product and don't come back with more excuses, either you do what you said you would do and stop going after irrelevant childish arguments about user names and mindsets or you just shut up and admit by silence that this is a scam.
If you had look at the smaller rotor of the Yildiz, you had seen that it is not a DIY part. It need an industrial to make it. And if you had corectly read the PES article you would know that we cannot buy the industrial plan:
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The open license will be done for the simple designs. Not industrial types
Then, if we have to let make the part (no kit avalaible), as well doing it well, in another forum we are thinking to make a company to do kits. We have to contact Halli to see what Yildiz group can propose, and also have some explaination of what is this simple design in front off the patent, we will contact also autorities to profit of all facilities than we can. As on this other forum a member has already modelize mathematicaly the Yildiz engine magnetic flow, we are condident to succeed. But do not care as it is also a scam. We will sell you at big cost in some more years.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #638 on: April 27, 2013, 06:19:22 PM »
If you had look at the smaller rotor of the Yildiz, you had seen that it is not a DIY part. It need an industrial to make it. And if you had corectly read the PES article you would know that we cannot buy the industrial plan:Then, in another forum we are thinking to make a company to do kits. We have to contact Halli to see what Yildiz group can propose, but also autorities to profit of all facilities than we can.

All I saw as a very easy to make motor that any CNC company can make the parts of.

If you still haven't bought the plans you cannot say anything about what can't be done or what can be done. Stop with the excuses, you said it yourself:

I said that I want to buy a kit, not an expensive industrial one. And not from an industrial which can make it bad, and create magnetic potential wells (http://www.supermagnete.de/project68 at end page). Yildiz engine needs adjustment to work (like it is said in the pattent).
user names in a forum: When you chose your pseudo, you show your mindset. We can see what we can expect from a Ghost, just trouble, otherwise stay hidden. Or a shadow which prevents light to be present.

The open source is described as a "simple design" and can be downloaded, so before you go on with your same lame excuses buy the plans and then you can talk again.

No plans, no talk. Or you can admit (by omission) now that you are a weak person that doesn't stand for what he says and doesn't even know what he was talking all this time, either way your next answer will be the final one on this matter.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #638 on: April 27, 2013, 06:19:22 PM »
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Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #639 on: April 27, 2013, 06:30:46 PM »
Shadowpt:

lol It is one of the more bizarre clips in this episode.  I can just hear any physics teacher explaining what is being observed in my head.  "Note how the rotational energy is being converted into magnetic potential energy.  Then it gets over the peak and the magnetic potential energy gets converted back into the rotational energy less the friction losses.  You can do an integral of the torque as a function of angle, from the start angle to the finish angle to calculate the stored magnetic potential energy.  When that stored magnetic potential energy is released it gets converted back into rotational energy.  Note the instantaneous acceleration of the rotor is the instantaneous torque on the rotor divided by the moment of inertia of the rotor."

So that's something like what a physics teacher would say.  Instead you get this bizarre scene with these men gawking at a "magnet motor" like they they have never observed this property of magnets before in their lives.

It's a watershed moment for sure.

MileHigh

I know, right? And you can hear Allan on the background all amazed with it, as if he never saw a wankel / v-gate magnet motor before.

How low can one person get at life... Just by watching that video I can see 5 of them doing it.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #640 on: April 27, 2013, 07:10:40 PM »
All I saw as a very easy to make motor that any CNC company can make the parts of.

If you still haven't bought the plans you cannot say anything about what can't be done or what can be done. Stop with the excuses, you said it yourself:

The open source is described as a "simple design" and can be downloaded, so before you go on with your same lame excuses buy the plans and then you can talk again.

No plans, no talk. Or you can admit (by omission) now that you are a weak person that doesn't stand for what he says and doesn't even know what he was talking all this time, either way your next answer will be the final one on this matter.

If you had take time to read the patent. You'd have seen that we already have some plans. But YOU do not know what YOU are talking about, because YOU do not take time to study the patents. And I do not want to buy if do not know what I buy. What is this simplify design? YOU the service scam hunter, do YOU know what is this simplify design?
I do not buy a toy just to play with. I have a real need.
And if we have to buy CNC program, it is better to manufacture more than one piece. Do YOU know that?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #640 on: April 27, 2013, 07:10:40 PM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #641 on: April 27, 2013, 07:17:22 PM »
How low can one person get at life... Just by watching that video I can see 5 of them doing it.
You have to proof that you are better. Also because you do not answer to question.
@shadowpt
As you have reed my post http://www.overunity.com/13390/rotating-magnetic-field/#.UXpN7soZOSo, and you well know magnetism and FEMM, why didn't you answer me on this "rotating-magnetic-field" thread?
and you never answer to any question.
J.Duart is professor in Nederland at Eindovhen+Delft. Where are you prof? Prof of what?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #642 on: April 27, 2013, 07:40:50 PM »
"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

I am very strong I have one in my pocket.

Another one from scientist?


"There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be
obtainable.  It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at
will."    -- Albert Einstein, 1932

"The energy produced by the atom is a very poor kind of thing.  Anyone who
expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is
talking moonshine" - Ernst Rutherford, 1933

There is a lot more at http://amasci.com/freenrg/laughed.html

Are you in "The Experts Speak" http://amzn.com/0679778063   ?

Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #643 on: April 27, 2013, 07:50:58 PM »
If you had take time to read the patent. You'd have seen that we already have some plans. But YOU do not know what YOU are talking about, because YOU do not take time to study the patents. And I do not want to buy if do not know what I buy. What is this simplify design? YOU the service scam hunter, do YOU know what is this simplify design?
I do not buy a toy just to play with. I have a real need.
And if we have to buy CNC program, it is better to manufacture more than one piece. Do YOU know that?

So you choose the weaker way, its fair. After all your big talk and "I know what I talk about and everything about it I know cause I am an expert with less than 20 years old" you finally show that not even you will give money to Yildiz.

Smart, at least one time.

You have to proof that you are better. Also because you do not answer to question.and you never answer to any question.
J.Duart is professor in Nederland at Eindovhen+Delft. Where are you prof? Prof of what?

First: I don't have to prove anything about myself, the thread is about Yildiz and his scam. I never claimed to be an physics expert, never claimed to have any degree on it, all I said is that I already tested many configurations in various simulations, read about the most of the "magic motors" that are more known and used that knowledge to analyze Yildiz's circus.
So far all you have done has been absolutely nothing, you go in circles, avoid direct questionings, you do absolutely shit about this and you still ask for proof? Go be the French that you are and get lost already, why the hell are you still here?

Second: How did you want me to answer a question when that same post that you made was not close to that before? You edited it after a while, how would I guess?
But if you want an answer for that it is simple, it is the same reason why almost no one bothered with it (Including profitis): It doesn't work, there is no rotating magnetic field in what you posted. Pictures don't make reality true.

If you insisted on me to answer that to you then you just showed everyone that you don't know nothing about anything here so shut your hole or get lost, you are passing by the same crazy nutjobs portraited in that video : Absolute retards.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #644 on: April 27, 2013, 07:53:20 PM »
"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

I am very strong I have one in my pocket.

Another one from scientist?

"There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be
obtainable.  It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at
will."    -- Albert Einstein, 1932

There is a lot more at http://amasci.com/freenrg/laughed.html

Are you in "The Experts Speak" http://amzn.com/0679778063   ?

LOL you are really beyond stupid, why do you keep posting unrelated stuff that proves no point at all beside your imaginary world? Why do you still keep using quotes on an argument when you should know by now that quotes are meaningless if the person using them doesn't even know what he is talking about?

You should just stop embarassing your country, it wasn't enough that their image is of people that run away from any fight, now you want them to also be portraited as the dumbest people on earth.

 

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