ive been thinking of ways to create a steorn engine without the need for battery domichi.what do you think would happen if we used normal coil inductors instead of toroids,and then simply short-circuit the coils as the magnets pass them.do you think that would reduce magnetic attraction at critical moment because of lenz repulsion? We would only need a tiny battery to just power a switch to short-circuit at intervals.

You have to minimize consuption then the JL Naudin solution is the best one. To avoid battery I will use super capacitor and charge it with another generator coil. and I perhaps will put one hall detector foreach coil beacaus my short experience with magnet has prove to me that even same reference magnet have not same magnetic cloud, and not same magnetic viscosity magnetic cloud.
But first I want to finish what I am doing since it begins to work like I want. But it is long as I have a lot of metal part to do and I miss self power. It is for that (missing self power) that I lose my time on this forum. I find what I am doing on http://www.fdp.nu/triangle/default.asp with R.Calloway advice. In the texte it is said "All pull comes from the first triangle, and after that it just coasts All pull comes from the first triangle, and after that it just coasts", it is wrong it self launch everywhere on a circle way.
FDP =Flying Dutch Man Project, but Eric is not Dutch.
It is one of best site on OU, the only problem is that you have to join a Yahoo group if you want to exchange with them. There is no forum, and I can understand with what I see here.

@shadowpt

LISTEN TO THE 1ST. LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS AND keep you energy.

You have to read Steorn and The Holy Grai http://amzn.com/0557207215, perhaps this will open your mind, if you have one.

Well said, I think Sterling is riding a slippery rail, if he falls off one side he just ends up ruining his reputation, if he falls of the other side he might be convicted of fraud.

If I was him I would get off that rail. Choose a side. Truth and valid reporting, or leading people on, hyping them up and getting donations with no follow through ect. ect..

It's kinda sad but if all the dodgy and plain false claims were given no credence there would be no problem. There is a lot of dodgy stuff on these sites, and there seems to be more and more people to believe it.

On these sites I see very little collaboration, development and testing. Mostly hunting for claims on the you tube so they can be linked for hype. Then pages of argument.
Did Yildiz run his machine for hours while powering some decent load, like more than 10 watts. Seems it would be a very expensive fan.

Cheers

You are right for most that you say. But you have to dissociate Stirling and Yildiz. I had exchange with J.Duarte (dutch professor) at Geneva, that was interesting, he began to imagine how to find physics explanation about this engine. He regrets that he could not continue to work on this enngine, but it was not a Yildiz problem. It was Nederland visa problem.
I agree that this thread is not the TOP, but there is hopefully other better thread on this forum.
Even penno64 which open this thread never come back. He opened it here and not in http://www.overunity.com/skeptical-views-and-scam-alerts/
For me, for serious exchange I prefer other forum, and principally in French, my mother language. On this forum, there is no moderator how could recall the objectives and redirect posts in their place. On this other French forum, after giving some explaination about magnetic viscosity, they are now taking it into account and they now explain things that was wrong from FEMM before.
They also are trying to find better simulation software. The problem is that other softwares are expensive or like Elmer require some more mathematicals knowledge.
But on all forums you have scam hunter which polute. They learn from the past, but they also learn wrong thing from the past. And they think that it is right. Like energy conservation law that has to be completed with all known energies.  That will be a problem, as black energy is infinit (75% of univers, but with low density).

As I am also interest with Healing with vital energy, I just comeback from one of these blogs. Day and night. All posts finish with something like "Love". We are far from this here. It is exactly the contrary. OU will never born here. We are making our live with our brain, there is no hazard, here is not live that I want. When I spoke of black energy, I think zero point energy, but here it is real black, negative energy, FLEE.
I do not need this black negative energy even if free. And even if I can protect myself from this negative energy (thank you Mickael archangel)
I know that the pugs will try to attack me on this point. It will be in vain because I will not discuss here something pure. And they will not follow me on vital energy blogs, they are to affraid to be put infront of them self there.

what reputation @farmhand? Sterling and even our own overunity.com websites are regarded as jokes by the elite science circles while at the same time they pull any valuable info that might actualy be worth anything from them :-)

what reputation @farmhand? Sterling and even our own overunity.com websites are regarded as jokes by the elite science circles while at the same time they pull any valuable info that might actualy be worth anything from them :-)

I agree, and worse for OverUnity. Dutch prof. let it for what it is: nothing.
When you say vortex forum, at which adress? As I will work on Schauberger Vortex than can be interesting for me.

"this thread is more testosterone than anything of value" yes it is a pitty because finding the Yildiz secret and use it had been very interesting. Even this thread creator never come back.
On a French forum, I have a friend how already modelize the Yildiz magnetic flow from the pattent. I asked him to update from what we saw in Geneva (because contrary what is said by the 2 pugs , there was things to see in Geneva: They put films to see outside magnetics fields on the engine, and my friend saw something not in accordance with his mathematics model, and he already knows where is the mistake in his mathematics model). In resume, his model is not stage by stage to understand the engine, but combine all the stage fields to understand the necessary instability. As soon as he will put back his explanation on youtube I will tell you. It is in French but as it is a big part on vectors it is also very visual.
On this French forum we also have scam hunter. But when they arrive I tell them that pure gossip is not welcome. And if they cannot reproduce a system, I always say contact the person how is sharing before saying that it not work. They just are alowed to say that they do not succeed. For example the engine that I am trying to reproduce, was never working before, but they stop to quickly. For me, until now the system work like I want (I have only a quarter done then it is not yet perpetual, but it stop where I stop building). As I am not powerfull this time then I order prepared piece to continue, it will delay one week more, but I do not stop. Nothing can stop a passionate. But it does not take much to stop losing starters. Univers move from a long time, and we never use this energy, That have to be corrected even with R.Vialle theory, for which we have the scientists formula (out of 1rst law) .http://youtu.be/Fqt3gC0qvRM and http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/index.htm.

@DomiChiP:


Schauberger has been an interested of mine for a long time. I would like to see your work and experiments with the "Schauberger-Vortex". Do you care to start a new thread here and share your discoveries?


truesearch

I already have done the mold for making the vortex which will support the pipes, but I stop because it was the winter here in France. And I didn't want to play with water when it was so cold. Then I chose to try magnet during waiting sun. But sun is coming. With magnet I think there is only a working one that we can do ourself, it is the steorn Orbo, like Naudin replication. Yildiz is to complicate to do it at home (he has to make us a kit), an Johnson use out of age magnet. But Steorn is not magnet but electro-magnet. With Schauberger repulsine we also to have a motor. Magnet motor had been a good chalenge.
We allready have threads on Magnetosynergie and Quartz already work a lot on air turbine http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33. What I already discovered is that the vortex cone is not exactly like the mathematic model. I use the real one to make my mold. But you know that north and south of earth have not the same one (not in the same direction), then the turbine have to take that into account.
A good doc is http://www.incapabledesetaire.com/edito3/enerlib.pdf, take time to translate it with google. You will discover that since 3000 years OU is hidden. And a lot of other usefull informations, also that conchoid is OU.

@DomiChi:


Thanks for your reply. I visited your thread on Magnetosynergie but I can't read French, and Google-Translate isn't very good. . . .


I hope you share your work here on overunity.com.


truesearch

Yes if I have results. I do not want to be like the pugs. It is not because I not succeed that I will say that Schauberger did not work. But just that I miss information.