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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 793833 times)

DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #570 on: April 24, 2013, 08:30:51 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #571 on: April 24, 2013, 08:58:55 AM »
I am sure you have, tell me do you know how to use FEMM by now? And what is that "magnetic viscosity" that you talked about?

I guess that all that you learned was new ways to enforce an obvious scam and be disrespectfull to other members.

I am still waiting for all the proof that make the motor legit, still waiting before the man goes to jail :D
The difference with you, I will answer to your question. My previous post stay actual:
Yes it is what I said: As usual, we will never have answer, question do not go to your mind: Avatard computer incorrectly programmed.

I already give you what to seacrh to find about magnetic viscosity. If I give you my link it will be in French. But it is to much information for you. As your magnetic knowledge is only FEMM and you are to lazy to instruct your self, I search for you, you can see this 3 years old thread http://www.overunity.com/8869/software-simulation-of-magnetic-viscosity/nowap/#.UXd92coZOSo (I am too charitable for guys like you, which prefers to learn only to vilify). As it is on these forum, I do not know the value if it is at your picture.

About FEMM: I now know that FEMM is not accurate, even if specialize in magnetism. It is like calculator, you need to know to do yourself before using.
Then, I open a new thread on another forum to find a better one. I will not invest time on FEMM, but on the one that we will preconize. If we can not find one and have nothing beter to do, I will do one myselft in DOT.NET with Elmer bibliotheque. And create a material bibliotheque for Elmer. Have a look on Elmer, it is 3D.   (I well know microsoft .net package, I used it for a long time as professional, and now I prefer to do something else).
I also want to combine magnetism with other mechanical forces. And FEMM is not the good solution. With viscosity, simulation are to be dynamical and take into account mechanical properties (friction, inertia, centrifugal, ...). Viscosity may be a drawback, but we can also use it as Orbo. Like Foucault effects which can reverse magnetism. Also I would do to simulate the speed of free rotation with the couple. And I do not want to invest as much as in hardware.  Dasault Catia is the best one but too expensive for home. But you will not like it as it is a French software, even if the Boeing Company used CATIA V3 to develop its 777 airliner. We have it in my company but I do not want hack, and it needs strong workstation, then I have not it on my laptop.

And as you like to say: SILLY shadowpt, change your simulation software. It will let you have bad conclusion.
For myself I exchange with hard simulation with Calloway advice: have a large transparent metal powder box. I add, Not plexiglas because electrostatic forces.

About Yildiz engine, I do not want to continue to speak to less than a wall (you) (Why less than a wall: perhaps walls have ears ;-)).
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 02:00:33 PM by DomiChi »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #572 on: April 24, 2013, 03:19:44 PM »
@Shadowpt and CazadorDeTruchos: Why didn't you open a thread in http://www.overunity.com/skeptical-views-and-scam-alerts/ part of this forum, and let serious people discus over Yildiz here?
Even on  http://www.overunity.com/skeptical-views-and-scam-alerts/ nobody is ok with you? Or are you to lazy?
But now you can stay as you already polute this thread.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 07:21:46 PM by DomiChi »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #573 on: April 24, 2013, 07:31:29 PM »
The difference with you, I will answer to your question. My previous post stay actual:
I already give you what to seacrh to find about magnetic viscosity. If I give you my link it will be in French. But it is to much information for you. As your magnetic knowledge is only FEMM and you are to lazy to instruct your self, I search for you, you can see this 3 years old thread http://www.overunity.com/8869/software-simulation-of-magnetic-viscosity/nowap/#.UXd92coZOSo (I am too charitable for guys like you, which prefers to learn only to vilify). As it is on these forum, I do not know the value if it is at your picture.

About FEMM: I now know that FEMM is not accurate, even if specialize in magnetism. It is like calculator, you need to know to do yourself before using.
Then, I open a new thread on another forum to find a better one. I will not invest time on FEMM, but on the one that we will preconize. If we can not find one and have nothing beter to do, I will do one myselft in DOT.NET with Elmer bibliotheque. And create a material bibliotheque for Elmer. Have a look on Elmer, it is 3D.   (I well know microsoft .net package, I used it for a long time as professional, and now I prefer to do something else).
I also want to combine magnetism with other mechanical forces. And FEMM is not the good solution. With viscosity, simulation are to be dynamical and take into account mechanical properties (friction, inertia, centrifugal, ...). Viscosity may be a drawback, but we can also use it as Orbo. Like Foucault effects which can reverse magnetism. Also I would do to simulate the speed of free rotation with the couple. And I do not want to invest as much as in hardware.  Dasault Catia is the best one but too expensive for home. But you will not like it as it is a French software, even if the Boeing Company used CATIA V3 to develop its 777 airliner. We have it in my company but I do not want hack, and it needs strong workstation, then I have not it on my laptop.

And as you like to say: SILLY shadowpt, change your simulation software. It will let you have bad conclusion.
For myself I exchange with hard simulation with Calloway advice: have a large transparent metal powder box. I add, Not plexiglas because electrostatic forces.

About Yildiz engine, I do not want to continue to speak to less than a wall (you) (Why less than a wall: perhaps walls have ears ;-)).

For the question that you posed, FEMM works perfectly and hasn't failed once with me with all the simulations that I conducted.

Now about magnetic viscosity, if you had read or understood the main core and idea behind its functionality you would understand that you cannot achieve anything worthwhile with it, main reason is "viscosity" which renders both velocity and energy exchange useless, it isn't fast enough to be used for anything else aside cool magnets being engulfed by ferrofluid videos. Even if you make it more liquid by adding less solid components then you will need a really powerfull magnet and the permiability of the ferrofluid will be really small.

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For myself I exchange with hard simulation with Calloway advice

Well that sure is a precise way to study magnetism, I am sure it will allow you to conduct many many magnetic configurations by observing iron shards moving around in a pattern.

So far you showed me nothing more that you learned, while I have already been here since last year, I am pretty sure I have more knowledge in this than you have.

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About Yildiz engine, I do not want to continue to speak to less than a wall (you) (Why less than a wall: perhaps walls have ears ;-)).

This thread is about the Yildiz engine and now that you have no more answers you decide to avoid any future ones? Are you yielding? By yield you admit that I am right in all that I said and you were wrong all the time. Even avoiding this you are admitting it by omission.

But lets just for the sake of it continue with one last observation like two gentlemen. This will probably take some time but I am sure it will be worth it for the sake of scientific evaluation of invention claims.
I will be asking a few questions to you that you probably already know, if you do not know then we will research any evidence about it. In the end we will both reach a conclusion and let other forum users (that might have interest) give their conclusion aswell.

(Please forget all that is above the question and focus on the answer only so we can keep this clean.)

Question number 1: DomiChi, would you agree with me that the reason why Yildiz motor could not be run continuously during the Geneva Exposition was because a few magnets broke inside the machine making it unstable to run for long periods of time?



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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #574 on: April 24, 2013, 07:34:42 PM »
by the way domichi,did you notice that the vast majority of overunity device experiments on this website and other websites are in some way related to induction.there are some very complicated circuits and some very simple ones but all of them point back to the basic coil and paramagnetic core.
Yes but it is also easier to test than magnetic engine or Schauberger hydro turbine. Schauberger hydro turbine was working, Hitler want it for him, and after Americans destroy every plans or hardware on it (not good for oil companies). Then we have poor information on it. But if I do not succed with magnet I will try Schauberger hydro-repusine replication (some other French are doing air turbine replication and they already have good results with Schauberger ideas). Schauberger was not a scientist, then he didn't look for OU equation. But the results where enough good to destroy the roof where he was tried (to much power for the fixings, plus the weigh of the machine).

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #575 on: April 24, 2013, 07:39:33 PM »
Yes but it is also easier to test than magnetic engine or Schauberger hydro turbine. Schauberger hydro turbine was working, Hitler want it for him, and after Americans destroy every plans or hardware on it (not good for oil companies). Then we have poor information on it. But if I do not succed with magnet I will try Schauberger hydro-repusine replication (some other French are doing air turbine replication and they already have good results with Schauberger ideas). Schauberger was not a scientist, then he didn't look for OU equation. But the results where enough good to destroy the roof where he was tried (to much power for the fixings, plus the weigh of the machine).

Please forget about all that and just focus on the question at the end of my post.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #576 on: April 24, 2013, 08:53:52 PM »
Please forget about all that and just focus on the question at the end of my post.
It was not an answer to your post but to Profitis post.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #577 on: April 24, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
About Yildiz engine, I do not want to continue to speak to less than a wall (you shadowpt) (Why less than a wall: perhaps walls have ears ;-)).

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #578 on: April 24, 2013, 09:00:35 PM »
For the question that you posed, FEMM works perfectly and hasn't failed once with me with all the simulations that I conducted.
It is not a question, I already have the answer from hard experimentation and from other than you.
Why your first post on this forum then?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #579 on: April 24, 2013, 09:09:04 PM »


So far you showed me nothing more that you learned, while I have already been here since last year, I am pretty sure I have more knowledge in this than you have.

Yes but you show me that your close mind will not allow you to anderstand anything about magnetic visosity usability
"I have already been here since last year" yes but you are not able to ear anything. You are not able to answer to question, because you not ear (read) them.
And if you have more knowledge than me, I cannot see it in what you said. I well want to recognize your competence gossip.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #580 on: April 24, 2013, 10:38:00 PM »
ive been thinking of ways to create a steorn engine without the need for battery domichi.what do you think would happen if we used normal coil inductors instead of toroids,and then simply short-circuit the coils as the magnets pass them.do you think that would reduce magnetic attraction at critical moment because of lenz repulsion? We would only need a tiny battery to just power a switch to short-circuit at intervals.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #581 on: April 25, 2013, 04:45:22 AM »
Useless even when I try to be a gentleman. Guess the french people are strong to their roots, run from any fight with their tails between their legs.

This thread has lost its meaning.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #582 on: April 25, 2013, 05:12:16 AM »
Have you noticed that @DomiChi and @profitis are always together, almost at the same time? Never one at a time.

They never are separate, always are together defending to YILDIZ´s KIND OF MAGIC.

WILL BE THE SAME PERSON WITH 2 DIFFERENT NICKs ?

Have you noticed that?

Looks like Yildiz´s Team pays well ...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #583 on: April 25, 2013, 05:25:39 AM »
@Domichi, what´s news about the Deutsch people and your boss YILDIZ?

HAVE WE A VALIDATION?

YES OR NOT?

This article deals with aliens?

Is there 380 Watts? or 38? or 3.8? or 0.38?

Is there any news?

OR ...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #584 on: April 25, 2013, 05:58:25 AM »
@Domichi, what´s news about the Deutsch people and your boss YILDIZ?

HAVE WE A VALIDATION?

YES OR NOT?

This article deals with aliens?

Is there 380 Watts? or 38? or 3.8? or 0.38?

Is there any news?

OR ...

Well said, I think Sterling is riding a slippery rail, if he falls off one side he just ends up ruining his reputation, if he falls of the other side he might be convicted of fraud.

If I was him I would get off that rail. Choose a side. Truth and valid reporting, or leading people on, hyping them up and getting donations with no follow through ect. ect..

It's kinda sad but if all the dodgy and plain false claims were given no credence there would be no problem. There is a lot of dodgy stuff on these sites, and there seems to be more and more people to believe it.

On these sites I see very little collaboration, development and testing. Mostly hunting for claims on the you tube so they can be linked for hype. Then pages of argument.

Did Yildiz run his machine for hours while powering some decent load, like more than 10 watts. Seems it would be a very expensive fan.

Cheers