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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 674838 times)

Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #540 on: April 22, 2013, 06:18:12 PM »
i dont know domichi.if it works then alot of politics will come in2 the equasion.if its politicaly advantageous to throw the device into market then we may see more of it.the sudden tidal wave of open public domain free energy research may tilt a decision to go ahead and inject in2 markets,if it works properly.my advice to you is dont rush too quickly to spend any money yet,wait a little while longer.
Like all bourse investments it is long term investment. And now nodoby, or almost, because they do not believe, know that philips will have this leader position if they buy the patent today. Today stock trading cost do not take this leader position into account. After stock trading will increase. It's a gamble, but a safe bet since Philips is healthy otherwise and Yildiz investment is nothing to the size of a company like Philips. For Philips, a minor investment but with a futur big advantage. I have just to know if Philips has good chance to have the patent for him, and not another industrial as they were no enough active with and for Yildiz (they do not obtain visa for Yildiz's wife). If it is another industrial, it is from this one that I have to buy stocks. But I do not know which one. But if it is in Germany, that reduce possibilities. In France it is a not allowed to do that. They call it Insider offense. But I am not inside. I think it is also for that that Yildiz cannot speak about industrial. It is a real advantage for a industrial for a not so big cost for a multinational.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #540 on: April 22, 2013, 06:18:12 PM »

Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #541 on: April 22, 2013, 08:29:36 PM »
yes it will be a huge advantage for any corp domichi.i have also been thinking of approaching phillips about my own self-charging battery device but i have to get my ass into u.s.a. or europe first.most of the valuable i.p. here in south africa ends up there anyway.i would also bet on phillips to grab the yildiz i.p. if he has got the engine working apropriately.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #542 on: April 22, 2013, 09:09:36 PM »
Why yes, it will be a godsend for medicine applications and transports and space exploration, did you know that god hides behind the moon? O.o

With this magic power we can find god and we can finally shove it in the people that never believed in us. Oh wow, just imagine having a car that NEVER has to pay for fuel for years!!! WOOOW!!! Its amazing what this will contribute for our world!

We should give money and all investors should put all their money in the hands of Yildiz, it is legit! See how much this world can change with this technology? I will be able to have a cellphone that will never need to charge! Or airplanes that will stop poluting the atmosphere!

AMAZING! And another thing that is amazing, the motor can attract pure copper coins and strangely they can't attract any of the iron-silver coins, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE????!!!

It is too much reality that I cannot bare to speak, Yildiz is GOD, OMG, he is GOD!!!!!


Allah Yildiz, Allah Yildiz!


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Meanwhile, in reality world where people actually need hard evidences to prove the legitimacy of a machine instead of producing fake hopes and beliefs going around circles talking about changes and benefits that one machine can make even if the machine hasn't done it once in 30 years...

Humanity, right here guys, stupidity at the highest levels!

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #542 on: April 22, 2013, 09:09:36 PM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #543 on: April 22, 2013, 09:24:05 PM »
@shadowpt. Yes you have to pray, but pray God for being less stupid. And to learn to read. I didn't say that I will give money to Yildiz but to a multi-national which is good placement with or without Yildiz, a multinational open for a better futur, which invest for future.
Philips is a great medecin machine maker, perhaps we can use one to remove the spider with legs in water in your brain (yes in water because it already removes a big part). Have you headaches or seizuresead?

Is it you behind the moon? I can see your shadow big donkey ears.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #544 on: April 22, 2013, 09:29:25 PM »
hey @shadow,are you high on steroids?relax,nobody is going to prove anything to you,even if they have proof your highness.

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« Reply #544 on: April 22, 2013, 09:29:25 PM »
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Offline shadowpt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #545 on: April 22, 2013, 09:45:44 PM »
hey @shadow,are you high on steroids?relax,nobody is going to prove anything to you,even if they have proof your highness.

What? You mean that I sound insane? But I gave awesome evidences on how this technology can improve society, it has to be enough evidence that investors should give them money, why wouldn't my words of belief be enough?
I was just using your words to full extent, using the same explanations that were given to us, now you see how ridiculous it sounds?

I guess then you both should start using sound arguments instead of what you have been doing till now, now that you see how stupid it sounds you know how it feels to waste time with you and this scam.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #546 on: April 22, 2013, 09:47:58 PM »
@shadowpt. Yes you have to pray, but pray God for being less stupid. And to learn to read. I didn't say that I will give money to Yildiz but to a multi-national which is good placement with or without Yildiz, a multinational open for a better futur, which invest for future.

Is it you behind the moon? I can see your shadow big donkey ears.

Oh frenchy, you so silly. Allways with the most childish words, good for you! Can't wait to see your miraculous machine in the papers aswell, maybe in 30 years we will be talking about your scam :D

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #547 on: April 22, 2013, 10:25:56 PM »
Oh frenchy, you so silly. Allways with the most childish words, good for you! Can't wait to see your miraculous machine in the papers aswell, maybe in 30 years we will be talking about your scam :D
Yes, French and proud of it. You will never see my engine, because I do not share with guys like you.
And you, where are you from. It is not in your profile.
As usual, we will never have answer, question do not go to your mind: Avatard computer incorrectly programmed.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #548 on: April 22, 2013, 11:03:51 PM »
if he has got the engine working apropriately.
The principle was working propely in Geneva. I saw it myself. Even better because it is always more difficult to restart than to let turn.
Having to redraw robust mechanical is nothing for a multinational study office. They also have access to mold part and very robust plastic which can be cheaper. They can use ceramics that Yildiz cannot. And doing so, they take ownership of patents. For them it is better than an already finish product that they just have to copy. We can consider Yildiz engines as a proof of concept, not an industrial product.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #548 on: April 22, 2013, 11:03:51 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #549 on: April 22, 2013, 11:25:34 PM »
domichi,always more difficult to start than let it turn? Are you talking about the motor?how did they get it to start?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #550 on: April 23, 2013, 05:12:15 AM »
Yes, French and proud of it. You will never see my engine, because I do not share with guys like you.
And you, where are you from. It is not in your profile.
As usual, we will never have answer, question do not go to your mind: Avatard computer incorrectly programmed.

Oh silly frenchy I already knew that, it is the same talk that all scammers give, that is why I said "in the papers" just like mr Yildiz super magic motor. Guess you are the one that doesn't even read where you are posting ;D

Silly DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #550 on: April 23, 2013, 05:12:15 AM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #551 on: April 23, 2013, 07:29:01 AM »
Yes, French and proud of it. You will never see my engine, because I do not share with guys like you.
And you, where are you from. It is not in your profile.
As usual, we will never have answer, question do not go to your mind: Avatard computer incorrectly programmed.
Yes it is what I said: As usual, we will never have answer, question do not go to your mind: Avatard computer incorrectly programmed.

The answer:
Oh silly frenchy I already knew that, it is the same talk that all scammers give, that is why I said "in the papers" just like mr Yildiz super magic motor. Guess you are the one that doesn't even read where you are posting ;D

Silly DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #552 on: April 23, 2013, 07:33:39 AM »
domichi,always more difficult to start than let it turn? Are you talking about the motor?how did they get it to start?
always more difficult to start than let it turn, I spoke in general.
In Geneva he didn't use his electrical internal laucher. Some scam hunter said that it is that small launch battery which powered all the time the motor.
It was jut lanch by hand after releasing the brake if it didn't start alone.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 10:29:34 AM by DomiChi »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #553 on: April 23, 2013, 09:50:41 AM »
Shadowpt first posts on this forum were to say that he did succeed with his project. But as Yildiz succeed, he moved on this thread, and he already decided that as he did not succeed himself, other cannot. This post bellow post was before Geneva demo.
But Shadowpt project was only on FEMM. I know myself, for having maid prototype, that FEMM give not always the good answer. And I have seen some posts saying the same.

1 - Not once he opens the bottom half of the machine in a live audience ( or any other public video that I could find ), which has more than enough space to conceal an electric motor and batteries, even though he claims to have a pending patent ( for how long now? ) which would not be any obstacle to show the complete motor disassambled in public.
2 - According to the pictures in his website, the machine is based on a spiral orientation ( http://www.bsmhturk.com/galeri.php ) which we all know by now that never works and some of the pictures really resemble the perendev motor.
3 - In each video, where the machine has a long running time, you can detect a power runout by comparing the sound at start and at the end of its running time, you don't even need any special programs, your ears will do just fine ( 3:12 | 6:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epLOEaoPMFU ).
4 - If what he claims to have achieved was true then, by definition, the machine would accelerate over time (this is what a machine that powers itself means with no electronic components to regulate the velocity) then why isn't the machine speeding up exponentially? Since it starts with such a tremendous force and speed from start why does it loose power overtime? Don't quote his word on the "pickup coils" that regulate rpm, any normal electric engineer knows that those are useless without a electronic controller to regulate it accordingly.
5 - Not once his machine is recorded live without the fan attached to the main shaft, this is a great way to suppress the electric motor noise.
6 - The "tests" that were suppose to occur during last January are still yet to see daylight or even make "big news" in the media world.
7 - This whole theater resembles a lot a very late scheme, if you all remember this previous "legit" inventor aswell as I do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amb08N05_Ww


It's simple, got a pending patent and it really is a legit OU invention? Then you have nothing to hide, not even half of the machine. If you do hide then you are yelling "scheme" all over the place.


4 - If what he claims to have achieved was true then, by definition, the machine would accelerate over time (this is what a machine that powers itself means with no electronic components to regulate the velocity) then why isn't the machine speeding up exponentially?
One off the wrong said from others, Shadowpt does not know magnetic viscosity (known since 1895). Google"ewing magnetic viscosity". And also do not know that friction torque increase with speed, like Foucault effect (3 mains reason to self limiting speed).

I have another brain schema. If I do not succeed, what can I learn from Yidiz? 30 years of observation is not nothing.
I already have seen good ideas from Yildiz, but it is complicated in DIY. I want to try to do something easy and cheap to do at home if possible. There is a lot of good ideas on Internet. A lot stop before any prototype, and any proof that it will not work (R.Calloway has some that he let us try). And if I cannot succeed with magnet, I will try Schauberger hydro turbine, and R.Vialle principle. But I will not consider magnet as scam. Just, magnets need more precise conception and adjustment that I did.

Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #554 on: April 23, 2013, 12:04:36 PM »
yes air friction and shaft friction would definitly put a limit on speed of any such device.personaly i believe that if yildiz,s motor is genuine then he must be using either coils or metalic material to self-induct with eddies and change the properties of the magnetic field around each magnet as the other magnet passes by.this is not a simple case of just magnets repulsing each other like so many guys have tried before.we have to look at inductor circuits like rosemary ainslie,or beardin etc and try to find out if the kickback of such inductors is truly is larger than the input.therein lies the clue domichi,if inductors can work then there will be a way for a motor to work because it will then fall in line with the thermodynamics theory of steven.j.smith(google steven.j.smith magnetothermodynamics)

 

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