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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 697716 times)

Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #450 on: April 19, 2013, 08:42:24 AM »
Yes, but airplanes actually do fly, that has been proven.  This motor has not.  That is the point.  Proof is everything especially when raising money from potential investors.  No proof, no money.  Ask Sterling about Mylow.

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Even on plane you are miss informed. Have you ever heard about fly between Brazil and France? The destination was not under water, but ... And I had colleagues in this fly.
And when you say "No proof, no money", that is your opinion. For myself, if I judge the risk acceptable, I am able to spend time of my live (and money) on it. I already did it since 70th on informatics, and I am not alone. It is for that that informatics progress so fast. The problem is that we also build mean to give way to defamation. But it is human problem.
CERN boson analysed are based on Linux machine. If for OU machine, we have to do our open source project, I well want to participate without any financial standby, every body to the same target. I am no more 20 years old, but i kept enough to participate, even if it is just to sweep Internet. Perhaps this thread will be where to put the dust. Then I must not blow you away from here.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #450 on: April 19, 2013, 08:42:24 AM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #451 on: April 19, 2013, 02:32:14 PM »
cosmologic singularity

You level stay the same as CazadorDeTruchos: Under Nothing (Even Zero point energy is not there, cosmologic singularity?). Just defamation.

I prefer a free autographed picture of Yilditz than some Euros from you. It will be for me a big honor from people trying to do something for future during 30 years of his live.

If you so well know Yildiz project, can you say what Yildiz is asking from investor?
I know, and I can say it is almost nothing for a big multinational industrie. And I speak absolute and not speak about potential profit.
Thanks to slanderers worthless as you, nobody can stand. You are a drag on society. If M.Yildiz project was a scam, long ago he could get money by making as Johnson or selling kits. If selling kits I have already bought him one in Geneva to help him to improve, but in addition he wants to give us the security provided by a manufacturer.
Do you know what industries spend as sponsoring? Of course not because nobody wants you in industry. In industriy we build.
Yes, as a dream, I prefer Yildiz project than a sailboat in a race.
As human I am ready to spend time and money on this kind of project. I am already doing, by trying to do my prototype, and Yildiz model will be a better start (I take time to have a close look at existing patents and picture made at Delt on open motor).

Look at you as observator, and asks yourself what you are doing for society and futur.
On another forum there is a members which say me, let OverUnity collect this kind of close mind guys. I think I will do.
On this other forum, like Allan Blog, we prefer that close mind people have also close mouth.
It was funny to let see the level of knowledge on this thread. Markdansie and CazadorDeTruchos; do you ever know what is a magnet (not just as a child), the magnet flow properties and the main problem when building pure magnet motor?
The answer is not just Yes we know or a link to Wiki, but to share your understanding about these points (just to increase the level of your posts).

Yildiz is asking for millions for his "full proof" worldwide patent.

Intelligent people are providing evidence of a scam to prevent investors from falling into a scam and lose their money, unlike you.

I am sure that there are more ignorant people like you and I am glad that they are on another forum and not in this one.

The answer that you are talking about is all the ones you gave to us and none that we gave to you. You are the one that keeps dodging and using unbelieavable excuses that have no relation to this situation and keep posting links to stupidity gathering at the highest levels that help you prove, once again, nothing.

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I am no more 20 years old,

After all your bullshit talking I highly doubt that you are more than 15 years old. Your arguments lack proof and content and so does your way to counter argue, which show without a doubt a childish mind behind the words. Go back to your "friends" in club penguin and let the adults provide actual hard proof scam evidences and demand proper tests to be conducted in a scam motor.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #452 on: April 19, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
Poor man, your level is under my dog mind. But you are just a pug.

From your answer I see that you do not know anything about magnet. And that you don't read the thread where you post on, because I give some way on Yildiz engine is working.

And when you say that Yildiz asks for million. You had to go to Geneva.
His actual problem is to find fund to pay expense for patent and lawyer to prepare these patent. It is not millions.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #452 on: April 19, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #453 on: April 19, 2013, 03:41:37 PM »
Poor man, your level is under my dog mind. But you are just a pug.

From your answer I see that you do not know anything about magnet. And that you don't read the thread where you post on, because I give some way on Yildiz engine is working.

And when you say that Yildiz asks for million. You had to go to Geneva.
His actual problem is to find fund to pay expense for patent and lawyer to prepare these patent. It is not millions.

http://pesn.com/2013/01/04/9602242_BSMH-Yildiz_All-Magnet-Motor_30-Day_University_Test_Pending/

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He needs to get international patent protection (at least filed) for the black box before opening the technology to any team that wishes to be involved. But such protection costs a lot of money (in the ballpark of 2-8 million Euros). But in order to get that kind of money, he needs solid third-party verification of the technology.

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And that you don't read the thread where you post on

I do read where I post on and I contribute to it in the best way and in the best interest of others.

Get out of here you french ignorant, you already lost in argumentation and you will keep losing after.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #454 on: April 20, 2013, 08:06:37 AM »
Get out of here you french ignorant,
I will do, but just to let dust here on this thread. It must be somewhere to waste if we do not want it to scatter. Even if a shadow has no consistency. And we do not need your dejection on other positive forums.
I also have not any time to continue to play with you, a pug behind a grid.

The French ignorant has worked on his own magnet prototype, not like you which is not able to say any thing about magnet.  Have you already heard about magnetic fludity, magnetic potential wells and stick point. On you posts I saw nothing because it is just calomny wind.

And the difference with you, I speak about what I heard at Geneva and not an old Allan paper. What you quote from this old link, is not what I heard in Geneva. Wake up, renew your poor thinking, the earth is turning and other people than you are moving.

I would to better because I if I really had such a motor I would let everyone conduct the tests that they wanted, regardless of their ideas.
But you will never have, as you are. Then you take no risk to say that.
Me, if I succeed with my prototypes, i will no share with guys like you. Because it will be scam, even if i do not need money and problems which come with. That is your added value (keep hidden) and not petroleum company fault.
Do not be affraied my other co-forumers on French forum, I will share with you by MP, my son is OK, as you (friends with me in Geneva) can heard from him. I am very glad to not have a son not like these guys here (it is not more close mind, it is no mind, but it is normal for a shadow). Do you know how to remove your shadow? Stay with no light arround you ;-)
« Last Edit: April 20, 2013, 11:54:37 AM by DomiChi »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #454 on: April 20, 2013, 08:06:37 AM »
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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #455 on: April 20, 2013, 11:16:40 AM »
Soon we will see......demo in may 2010 in Germany?
Hopefully it's not another hoax
Dutch does not means German. But it is on the same line of all this thread, miss informed.
Eindhoven is not in Germany but in Nederland like the big industrial which sponsored university tests. Yes but it is like magnets, geography is complicate.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #456 on: April 20, 2013, 03:57:14 PM »
@domichi,the secret is not in magnetic 'fluids',or 'wells'.the secret is in pure applied conventional thermodynamics,except that one of the heat strokes of the magnetic engine must pull in ambient heat,and convert it to useful work.ie..an anisotropic heat cycle that pumps heat from ambient with no expense of energy on our part.im beginning to sound like phil hardcastle lately.

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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #457 on: April 20, 2013, 04:28:34 PM »
@domichi,the secret is not in magnetic 'fluids',or 'wells'.the secret is in pure applied conventional thermodynamics,except that one of the heat strokes of the magnetic engine must pull in ambient heat,and convert it to useful work.ie..an anisotropic heat cycle that pumps heat from ambient with no expense of energy on our part.im beginning to sound like phil hardcastle lately.
Finally someone that offers something other than slander. When I speak about magnetic fluidity, I was not thinking about Yildiz, but about Steorn Orbo; just to test pug knowledge. And when I spoke about magnetic wells that was to pull them to stick point reason.
For me I do not need to know where the Yildiz engine takes its power, as long as I have not to provide it and as long as it does not give polution. Polution can also be vital energy polution, and that we also must care. We have also to take care of Ionosphere and earth electric potential difference. Then, what I said at the begin of this paragraph, is not right, I want to know where it takes power (I prefer black energy, 75% of univers weight). But Nederland university already imagine some tests for 0 point energy, without open it. That is a positive taget.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #458 on: April 20, 2013, 07:54:11 PM »
DomiChi you are very pathetic, please remove your presence from planet Earth, thank you.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #459 on: April 20, 2013, 08:53:02 PM »
DomiChi you are very pathetic, please remove your presence from planet Earth, thank you.
GO IN YOUR BOX SHADOW PUG, I have not time to loose with you. Even to play with PUG. I like dogs, but not pugs.
SHADOWPT is PT for point? Shadow has already no volume, PT is almost redondante it just add no surface. But even so PUG is noisy.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #460 on: April 20, 2013, 09:16:29 PM »
@DomiChi:

Every time you open your mouth, is exposed your biggest ignorance. People like you, are the useful idiots for scams like Yildiz, Mike Brady an others.

All your arguments are based on your belief.

THE SCIENCE IS NOT A MATTER OF BELIEF, SCIENCE IS A MATTER OF FACT.

Please go back to elementary school, and learn again.

Have you discovered new laws of physics? Then present them to scientific world and win the Nobel Prize.!! GO DomiChi, GO!!

Meanwhile, gently I tell you: not to play the role of an idiot.

I'll explain ... as if you were my grandmother, I hope you understand now:

WHY A MAGNETIC MOTOR WILL NEVER WORK?


In some ways, gravity may be thought of as being similar to an elastic band. When you supply energy to an elastic band by stretching it (chemical energy supplied to your muscles is converted to mechanical energy to stretch the elastic band), the elastic band will snap back to approximately its original state. Specifically, if you hold one end of the elastic band to the floor and stretch the other end upwards, it will snap back down to the floor when you release the upper end of it. Bearing this in mind, think again about gravity. Gravity is a force not wholly dissimilar with the analogy of the elastic band. Like an elastic band, it does not contain energy unless you first supply it with energy. The energy used to move objects upwards (like stretching an elastic band) causes acceleration of things such as apples (objects which have mass) when they are allowed to fall back to the ground (acceleration).

But gravity cannot apply its 'force field' to "falling" objects like apples unless energy has first been supplied to raise them from the ground. In the case of apples, chemical energy has been supplied to cause the apple tree to grow and form apples. So too, when you lift an object from the ground and release it, it will fall because you supplied chemical energy to lift it in the first place.

We may think objects fall to the ground 'because of' the effect of gravity, and in a narrow sense this is right. But when you think about it more carefully, you will realise that the object has only fallen to the ground because energy was supplied to it beforehand (work was performed) in the process of lifting it upwards in the first place.

For this reason, even in the best possible scenario of component efficiency, you can never get more energy out of a gravity based device than you put into it in the first place to lift things above ground level. Output can never exceed input.

Energy always has to be expended lifting objects up from the floor and the 'force' of gravity cannot possibly ever add 'extra' energy to the object. When you lifted it, you added energy, but it does not gain energy on the way down.

The same general principle applies to magnets. Just because magnets have lines of force (similar to gravity), does not mean that magnets contain 'energy'. They do not. If static or stationary magnets really did contain 'energy', we would be able to connect devices and wires to them and use them as batteries or power supplies, but we cannot do this because they do not contain any energy.

In point of fact, neither gravity nor magnetic field lines in magnets possess energy. Energy must always be supplied from outside for the inherent 'field lines or forces' to seem to perform work. Consider how Faraday's law applies to solenoids. You always have to move a magnet inside a copper coil, or vice versa, you have to move a copper coil near a magnet to produce electrical energy. If magnets in stasis contained any energy whatsoever, you would not need to do this. You would be able to generate electricity without having to move the magnet at all; without having to move it relative to the coil or vice versa. But this is not so because magnets do not contain any energy. Energy must always be supplied from an external source (for example by your hand) to move the magnet or to move the solenoid.

The upshot of this is that working 'magnetic motors' made from arrays of magnets are impossible; have always been impossible and will always be impossible (unless you go to a different Universe where different laws of physics apply).

External energy must always be added to magnet based devices to enable them to rotate. External energy must always be added to gravity based systems to enable them to perform work.

Our predisposition to confuse force (in the sense of field lines) with energy or power has led countless inventors to waste time and resources trying to build PM magnetic motors, PM pendulums, and other gravity based machines, but none of these devices can ever possibly work because the laws of physics render them impossible. Just because you do not understand why it cannot work will not change the facts. These devices cannot ever possibly work. PM is impossible.

There are plenty of brilliant innovative inventors on this forum but some of them are oblivious to the central fact that field lines do not equate with energy or power. They are different things, and work must always be performed on objects (mass) if they are to be provided with with acceleration (F= m*a).

Looking at this issue from an another perspective, suppose, by some ingenious hitherto undiscovered method, an intellectual colossus manages to get a 'PM Magnet-motor' to rotate continuously, without any external power supply being fed into it. Let us suppose the electrical output of this mystery machine is then connected back to the machine itself. We know from Einstein that E=MC2. Accordingly, the machine would gain mass as it generated and stored power, until the point when it would have infinite mass...which is impossible.

My respectful suggestion? Stop wasting time and resources trying to build PM machines based on magnets and gravity. They cannot possibly ever work. Ever. People have been trying to build them for centuries. If it were possible for them to work, they would have been built by now.

Instead, build something useful. Something that has utility or which can convert externally derived energy into other forms, and thus has a chance of performing useful work. You cannot convert the 'force' of gravity or the 'force' of magnetism into energy without performing externally derived work on the systems.

@DomiChi:

Have you understood something that I've written?
If not: Please go back to elementary school and study again.

Conspiracies? Please do not come to us with these stories. A conspiracy canĀ“t stop a physical law. You are very pathetic.

If it makes you happy, continue believing that they exist:

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #460 on: April 20, 2013, 09:16:29 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #461 on: April 20, 2013, 09:46:17 PM »
@CazadorDeTruchos:The pack pugs enlarged. Except now there is the dumbest. Not even realize that his calumnies could cost their place to Dutch people.

You do not even answer to my question about your knowledge, and about you. Have you ever done something positive on the net that can let me think that you are not as stupide as you look on this thread.
And also so stupid to see that I play with pugs on this thred. Sorry I have no bone to throw.

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THE SCIENCE IS NOT A MATTER OF BELIEF, SCIENCE IS A MATTER OF FACT.
I have proof that even with fact scientists do not always beleive it. I have proof.

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Have you understood something that I've written?
If not: Please go back to elementary school and study again.
I have no time to loose to read you calomnies.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #462 on: April 20, 2013, 10:00:38 PM »
@de truchos.there are no new laws of physics required for a working perpeual motion device of the 2nd kind,just a better understanding of the laws.are you trying to tell me that every law of nature has been fully explored to the max since 1890?absolute rubbish

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #463 on: April 20, 2013, 10:07:57 PM »
Just because magnets have lines of force (similar to gravity), does not mean that magnets contain 'energy'. They do not. If static or stationary magnets really did contain 'energy', we would be able to connect devices and wires to them and use them as batteries or power supplies, but we cannot do this because they do not contain any energy.

I wouldn't be so sure about it, as the Vacuum Triode Amplifier and maybe also the Coler Magnetstromapparat were be based on that. Of course they also put in energy, but only very little compared to the output. Assumptions are that they vibrated the magnet in a way that it released much more energy than the input, practically some kind of induction effect from a static magnet.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #464 on: April 20, 2013, 10:10:25 PM »
@de truchos.there are no new laws of physics required for a working perpeual motion device of the 2nd kind,just a better understanding of the laws.are you trying to tell me that every law of nature has been fully explored to the max since 1890?absolute rubbish
You are right profitis. I had never seen any law about black energy. But we know that we are in, and that it is 75% of univers. A lot more than material. Perhaps have we something to do to use it?

 

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