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Offline DomiChi

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #390 on: April 16, 2013, 08:40:18 AM »
My dog is able to hunt; I never need to open it to see how.
On this forum, everybody is able to criticize, but nobody have ability to propose something working better than the M.Yildiz engine.
I try myself to build a magnet engine, and on the small Yildiz engine I recognized in Geneva (because I went in Geneva palexpo) magnet motor behavior. I have a long career in industry in electrotechnic, and the Yildiz engine has not the behavior of any kind of electrical engine that I know.
If you tread Yilidiz as hustler without any proof, I can say the same about you all rumor maker(s). And I ask myself if it is not you  (perhaps only one person) which are paid buy fuel company to avoid that free energy solution may born. You, honest people, think about that.
All these scam hunters are all hidden troll on this forum.

But if you are so well informed about battery having so much power, I'd like that you give reference of these batteries and where we can buy them. And also electronics that allow simulate the magnet motor behavior without heating.

When you say
I have spoken with 7 (seven) professors of TU Delft, and 1 (one) professor of TU Eindhoven, and all confirmed the same thing: the Yildiz motor´s is a BIG FAKE.
Why these courageous professors do not post an interview on Youtube on their names, not again behind a troll avatar. But if what you say is true (I have doubt) Yildiz need to change to more professional team (but I had a talk with J.Duart and other Dutch people in Geneva and I do not hear what you say).

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #391 on: April 16, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »

Why won't it stop instantly when the break is activated?

You have poor mechanical understanding on brake efficiency and friction. And also poor spirit of observation (try on your car how it stops if you do not change pressure on brake pedal (after disengaging gear of course)).

Shadow is certainly a good pseudo for you. No consistency, only avoid that somebody else gets the light.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #392 on: April 16, 2013, 11:14:53 AM »
Hi DomiChi
There is no evidence presented by Yilditz or his merry band of cool aide drinkers that he has something working.
Until he does, and tested in forms acceptable to the community at large then he is of no significance except to those persons he has taken money from in the past.
keep the dream alive
Mark

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #392 on: April 16, 2013, 11:14:53 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #393 on: April 16, 2013, 12:20:34 PM »
tinselkoala,actually thers very few explanations besides a 2nd law bust for marks little battery under the said circumstances.come down the list with me for a second:ambient vibration,ambient light,ambient radiowaves,,,all of those things wouldnt change the temperature of it at all.chemical slow oxidation?,,would make it warmer than ambient.nuclear?..warmer than ambient.2nd law violation?..sharply cooler than ambient on one 1 side,sharply warmer on the other,sticks out like a sore thumb.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #394 on: April 16, 2013, 12:29:03 PM »
Hi DomiChi
There is no evidence presented by Yilditz or his merry band of cool aide drinkers that he has something working.
Until he does, and tested in forms acceptable to the community at large then he is of no significance except to those persons he has taken money from in the past.
keep the dream alive
Mark
I was in Geneva, and for me it was evident that I will not put my fingers in the fan.
I have try to do myself some magnet engines, and I too well know the rebound that I had. He had it also until the engine is launch. The difference with mine is that mine slow down and finish to stop. The M.Yildiz system increases its speed.
For me M.Yildiz project has to be industrialized (avoid weak conception which break the parts) and have a better marketing, But with a good mechanical conception to avoid ball bearing problem and magnets moving and broking, this engine will be great for future. I do not say it is a finish product, but M. Yildiz nor, he is searching some industrial investor to make it industrial. But everybody saying it is a scam will not help him to find one. Do you know another one on market? I think you will answer NO. But it is normal, physicians are afraid to be push in uncomfortable zone, but I have nothing to lose in saying what I saw. If Yildiz solution is only able to drive fan, imagine the consumption of all the buildings ventilation in the world, even in your house.
Just with this function, theorist will have to explain the phenomena, and that is a big step for humanity. Just for that I will support all working device, and I saw it working without external power. And I am not foolish, I do not dream my travel to Geneva. I saw other OU system in Geneva. But this one is alone to let me see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #394 on: April 16, 2013, 12:29:03 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #395 on: April 16, 2013, 12:44:06 PM »
The fact that a simple test like this is never done is implicit proof that this is a scam.
No, it is just a proof that people like you, do not help M.Yildiz to find fund to build industrial product.
We have to spend more money on proof (Sterling travel) than to have good ball bearings and mechanical engineer in Yildiz team.
Do you know risk investor? With your comment they will not invest on OU system.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #396 on: April 16, 2013, 01:31:22 PM »
My dog is able to hunt; I never need to open it to see how.
On this forum, everybody is able to criticize, but nobody have ability to propose something working better than the M.Yildiz engine.
I try myself to build a magnet engine, and on the small Yildiz engine I recognized in Geneva (because I went in Geneva palexpo) magnet motor behavior. I have a long career in industry in electrotechnic, and the Yildiz engine has not the behavior of any kind of electrical engine that I know.
If you tread Yilidiz as hustler without any proof, I can say the same about you all rumor maker(s). And I ask myself if it is not you  (perhaps only one person) which are paid buy fuel company to avoid that free energy solution may born. You, honest people, think about that.
All these scam hunters are all hidden troll on this forum.

But if you are so well informed about battery having so much power, I'd like that you give reference of these batteries. And also electronics that allow simulate the magnet motor behavior without heating.

When you say
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I have spoken with 7 (seven) professors of TU Delft, and 1 (one) professor of TU Eindhoven, and all confirmed the same thing: the Yildiz motor´s is a BIG FAKE.[/qoute]Why these courageous professors do not post an interview on Youtube on their names, not again behind a troll avatar. But if what you say is true (I have doubt) Yildiz need to change to more professional team (but I had a talk with M.Duart and other Dutch people in Geneva and I do not hear what you say).

And magicians can make elephants disappear out of thin air, doesn't mean its real. You make the worst comparissons possible, a animal compared with a mechanical motor.
I have the history of scammers and the lack of any evidence brought by Yildiz to prove that you are wrong, what do you have? Nothing beside pure belief, just like Sterling.
Want to find out the truth? Just record the motor under a thermal view camera after 3 hours of continuous work, I am pretty sure that the bottom of the machine will get a bit hot with all those laptop batteries. If it is true then the entire motor should have the heat signature uniform since it is all symetrical. Food for thought.

You recognize the motor behaviour and that makes you believe that he is talking the truth? Perendev's motor also has the exact same stopping behaviour, what does that tell you? Isn't Perendev anymore of a scammer because of that? Ask Yildiz why did he lied when he said that some of the "1200" magnets broke when the machine doesn't even hold more than 250 and ask him why didn't anyone invested in him after seeing such miraculous machine. I am really curious about that.

You have poor mechanical understanding on brake efficiency and friction. And also poor spirit of observation (try on your car how it stops if you do not change pressure on brake pedal (after disengaging gear of course)).

Shadow is certainly a good pseudo for you. No consistency, only avoid that somebody else gets the light.

You are comparing a continuous load motor to a start/stop combustion motor, it is purely an ignorant comparisson. According to what Yildiz said the machine is always on magnetic load and the brake is used to hold that stationary or release it into rotation.
I have poor mechanical understanding of brake efficiency? As far as I know a mechanical brake that is engaged with a swift hammer striker is suppose to put the entire system to a halt at that moment, not letting it slowly stop on its own as if the batteries were turned off. Watch some more perendev motors and see how alike they both stop.

Again I have more proof that he is a scammer and none of you "believers" have anything except the claims of the Yildiz's team and fancy sideshow videos with coins on top and magnet readings. Remember the video showing him runing a small "electric" car with only his motor? Why would he do that and then say that load tests couldnt be conducted due to the shaft main bearing being weak? Where is our 30 day tests that he promised?
Dodge dodge dodge until more people fall for the scam.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #397 on: April 16, 2013, 01:39:12 PM »
No, it is just a proof that people like you, do not help M.Yildiz to find fund to build industrial product.
We have to spend more money on proof (Sterling travel) than to have good ball bearings and mechanical engineer in Yildiz team.
Do you know risk investor? With your comment they will not invest on OU system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELZQOuIASU

Now tell me why does he keep lying about the motor not having good bearings for load tests? You keep talking and talking but nothing of what you say is even contributing to yildiz's side. We have to spend more money on proof for another Sterling's vacation and at best worst report ever done by a person? Yeah, not gonna happen again after that.
Why don't you join Yildiz if you are so certain of yourself? Ask him what can you do to help him, how much money he is asking, by all means dive into that scam and stop trying to convince everyone else that knows better.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #398 on: April 16, 2013, 02:03:27 PM »
@milehigh,yes he couldve done that but it still wouldnt have ruled out a nuclear reactor in the motor casing.he has to prove to his investors,not us,that therz no power source inside there.to us he just has to show the fan turning nonstop without stopping,and without interference,without slowing, for a coupla weeks,a steorn setup without one single break or inteference wouldve been great.he fell short by not preparing adequately long beforehand to ensure zero breaks,interferences in this demo.paranoia about theft was also not advantageous here.

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« Reply #398 on: April 16, 2013, 02:03:27 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #399 on: April 16, 2013, 02:22:11 PM »


And magicians can make elephants disappear out of thin air, doesn't mean its real. You make the worst comparissons possible, a animal compared with a mechanical motor.
Why do you need to open it if we can external see that it works.
I have the history of scammers and the lack of any evidence brought by Yildiz to prove that you are wrong, what do you have? Nothing beside pure belief, just like Sterling.
Want to find out the truth? Just record the motor under a thermal view camera after 3 hours of continuous work, I am pretty sure that the bottom of the machine will get a bit hot with all those laptop batteries. If it is true then the entire motor should have the heat signature uniform since it is all symetrical. Food for thought.

You recognize the motor behaviour and that makes you believe that he is talking the truth? Perendev's motor also has the exact same stopping behaviour, what does that tell you? Isn't Perendev anymore of a scammer because of that? Ask Yildiz why did he lied when he said that some of the "1200" magnets broke when the machine doesn't even hold more than 250 and ask him why didn't anyone invested in him after seeing such miraculous machine. I am really curious about that.
With this paragraph, i can see that that you do not spend long time to document yourself about the M.YILDIZ engine. Look at the drawings and you will see all the magnets at 3 levels.
When I speak about magnetic engine behaviour and you answer that, I see that you do not spend long time with magnetic engine. For me the behaviour of a magnetic engine is the stick point not the start or stop.

You are comparing a continuous load motor to a start/stop combustion motor, it is purely an ignorant comparisson. According to what Yildiz said the machine is always on magnetic load and the brake is used to hold that stationary or release it into rotation.
I never compare combustion motor with magnetic motor, you take me for a baby, and you are not able to correctly read, I write with gear disengage, I compare brake on mechanical inertie.
I have poor mechanical understanding of brake efficiency? As far as I know a mechanical brake that is engaged with a swift hammer striker is suppose to put the entire system to a halt at that moment, not letting it slowly stop on its own as if the batteries were turned off. Watch some more perendev motors and see how alike they both stop.
Do you know whick kind of break it is? Then say it, that I can laugh. Because you always make asuption withouttaking time to know. Do you realy think that the break is a stop step? Then in addition you are a poor mechanical engineer. Have you seen that on your car you have to push on a button to remove hand brake? No idea that it can be the same?

Again I have more proof that he is a scammer
You have nothing because you do not read the minimum information on this engine. In what you said I have the proof. To be a credible oil company troll, you have to better prepare youself in reading documentation.
and none of you "believers" have anything except the claims of the Yildiz's team and fancy sideshow videos
You are wrong, I was in Geneva. And when they try to stop the engine with hand by tightening the free part of the shaft, they do not succeed. They have to use the break.
with coins on top and magnet readings. Remember the video showing him runing a small "electric" car with only his motor? Why would he do that and then say that load tests couldnt be conducted due to the shaft main bearing being weak? Where is our 30 day tests that he promised?
You had to come in Geneva, I have been delighted to see a scam hunter put his hand into the fan.
Dodge dodge dodge until more people fall for the scam.
Mister Shadow I preconize to you that you applie the 5 Toltec agreements. Specialy the 5th. They were translated in almost all language.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #400 on: April 16, 2013, 02:41:43 PM »
@milehigh,yes he couldve done that but it still wouldnt have ruled out a nuclear reactor in the motor casing.he has to prove to his investors,not us,that therz no power source inside there.to us he just has to show the fan turning nonstop without stopping,and without interference,without slowing, for a coupla weeks,a steorn setup without one single break or inteference wouldve been great.he fell short by not preparing adequately long beforehand to ensure zero breaks,interferences in this demo.paranoia about theft was also not advantageous here.
When you write " it still wouldnt have ruled out a nuclear reactor", yes I why not an E.T. which are earth invider. Is it children garden here?
I went there for me, and to support M.Yildiz and not for close mind people.
In France we have a proverb that says “you cannot let drink a not thirsty donkey”.
For me and people with me at Geneva, this engine has to progress in mechanical conception and marketing, not in principle.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #401 on: April 16, 2013, 02:47:20 PM »
and stop trying to convince everyone else that knows better.
Better know to create a rumor, but what else? Have you ever built some working system, and not only in OU?
On another forum: magnetosysnergie.com a member has taken time to model the magnetic flow in the M.Yildiz engine. I was with this member in Geneva, he was as convince as me.
On the engine there was a film showing magnetic fields at engine outside. But perhaps have you miss this part in the Allan Youtube video.

For now, I loose to much time on this not thirsty donkey forum ( French proverb “you cannot let drink a not thirsty donkey”).

For investor how may read this forum, I can say: make your own idea, and when you'll market such engine, I will buy one. I already ask the Yildiz team, but they do not want to sell kit out of the future investor. In this engine there is a genius idea which maintains magnetic instability. Everybody which read de US patent in detail and J.Duart expertize in Turkey can see it. The M.Yildiz magnetic conception is over what I can reproduce in DIY. Then I wait for the kit.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #402 on: April 16, 2013, 02:55:18 PM »
Mister Shadow I preconize to you that you applie the 5 Toltec agreements. Specialy the 5th. They were translated in almost all language.

Awww now you are roleplaying like Jorge Duarte, missdirecting everything while never providing any real hard evidence, so cute. And you even change my own words in an attempt to ridicule me. That is just sad, even for you.

I even enjoy this little part here that you changed to your own words:
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Why do you need to open it if we can external see that it works.
That is ignorance of the highest level, just because you see that it works doesn't mean that it works the way that he claims, he could even have hamsters inside and it would work too. What a retard statement.

Still you haven't contributed anything that strengthens Yildiz's story so, once again, you have absolutely nothing.

I guess internet trolls are everywhere, even in forums like these. When the man goes to jail (like many other scammers) I really want to see you still defending his side, now that will be a awesome show to watch, I'm even gonna bring some popcorns.

PS: Can't wait to see the super perendev magnet motor that you are also building, maybe you can scam a few bucks from Sterling's followers.

Better know to create a rumor, but what else? Have you ever built some working system, and not only in OU?
On another forum: magnetosysnergie.com a member has taken time to model the magnetic flow in the M.Yildiz engine. I was with this member in Geneva, he was as convince as me.
On the engine there was a film showing magnetic fields at engine outside. But perhaps have you miss this part in the Allan Youtube video.

I have built working systems and never claimed they were OU because they aren't, unlike you.
So on another forum you found another person like you, what a surprise, you 2 should give money to Yildiz.
The film showed magnetic fields outside the engine? So does every other Magnet motor scam, no one said it didn't have magnets but Yildiz said it had 1200 magnets when it doesnt even hold close to that number in the configurations that he built.

When you write " it still wouldnt have ruled out a nuclear reactor", yes I why not an E.T. which are earth invider. Is it children garden here?
I went there for me, and to support M.Yildiz and not for close mind people.
In France we have a proverb that says “you cannot let drink a not thirsty donkey”.
For me and people with me at Geneva, this engine has to progress in mechanical conception and marketing, not in principle.

Oh lord, you are on fire! You just keep spitting nonsense after nonsense! So you are saying that the motor should have more publicity and run on "idea power" instead of any kind of validation to prove that it actually works? LOL I knew there was something strange about you but now... wow, just wow! You have absolutely no idea of what you even say! This is hilarious and now I feel ashamed for even spending time trying to show you the reality. Go ahead, buy his machine and power up your house, while you're at it ask him for some unicorns to help with your gas spendings, unicorns run on hope and ignorance.

Please note that any attempt of extending this conversation without any evidence that the machine actually works (as Yildiz claims for 30 years) is pointless and only reinforces a person's attempt of prolonging a scam and, at the same time, intoxicating this forum. I already hold my skepticism till the Geneva Expo ended, you should hold your empty comments until anything worth scientificly is delivered from Yildiz.
Or, you know, when he goes to jail for embezzlement (just like Michael. Brady)

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For now, I loose to much time on this not thirsty donkey forum.

Oh god, yes, get out of here, be gone and take your infectious empty comments with you.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #403 on: April 16, 2013, 06:34:16 PM »
relax domichi.im on your side.im just telling you how it looked to the general public,not very pretty.if he wants to make a whambam impression on the public spectators he must be DAMN sure that next time therz gona b no interruptions.zilch inter-ruptionez.and you will see how it will boost his ratings.if you read my previous posts you will see that im very open minded to the possibility of electromagnetic 2nd law violations.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #404 on: April 16, 2013, 08:10:16 PM »
Look at this, the sound is in french but with Davy it is our language http://youtu.be/U5jcq1oBY6s.
Davy is the other member of MagnetoSynergie forum how have modelized for us the M.Yildiz motor general magnetic flow.
It is modelized from the pattent, and he gives us a cohérent rotative system. He is on facebook, you can exchange with him.

 

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