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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 670938 times)

Offline JamesThomas

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #360 on: April 14, 2013, 10:17:43 PM »
  Profitis,

 
I respect your opinion. Certainly Sterlings work, like everything in life, is neither black or white, all good or all bad. You choose to see only the good, and I feel that is an admiral trait in many situations...one that I have as well. No problem.

 
It's just that I feel – and perhaps I'm wrong – that Sterling has a paramount position in the free-energy movement. Who else do you know whose opinion and reporting influences so many in this field? And indeed his just being here has spurred many of us on..me included.

 
I applaud him for that.

 
It is just this influence that he has on people, the fact he does “stimulate peoples imagination” like you say, that should make him accountable, honest and straight-forward in what he shares with us.

 
If you were in a same place of influence, knowing your reporting touched the minds and motivations of many, how true would you be to the facts and validity behind your words? Painfully so, I would guess.

 
The more people you touched, the more you would investigate and work towards reporting genuine and truly helpful information supporting and strengthening the cause of free energy and a better home planet. You would hold your own feet to the fire to ensure the very best, open-minded, investigative, no-stones-unturned reporting you could possibly muster. Many people are counting on you. You're true to the cause and you won't fuck with them. I bet real money you would feel this way...wouldn't you. I know I would.

 
We either admit Sterling's words, videos and reporting influences thousands, or it does not. If his work touches few, then he can blow bubbles out his ass all day, and so what. Little harm done. But that is not the case is it? No! It's not.

 
Our dear Sterling IS in a position to influence many thousands. So he must have his feet held to the fire...weather you or he, likes it or not. To just let him be and ignore the fuck-ups is to turn our backs on what may be an important piece of the movement to save humanity.

 
You're free Profitis, to just shrug this off as meaningless venting. But I think if you do, you are missing the bigger important picture.

 
Sterling has gone off the deep end, and so his reporting – that so very many of us count on – is becoming more and more nonsensical and insubstantial. The more it focuses on the disingenuous, the more it subtracts from the real and valid efforts in this world changing movement.

 
It doesn't have to be this way. Many of us here love and appreciate old Sterling. I do. So we may be able to help make a shift of things by offering a serious effort to kindly, gently and lovingly BITCH SLAP some sense back into him.

 
If you think I'm nuts Profitis, then ignore my posts. Don't give me another opportunity to expound.

 
That said, I thank for your comments made so far as they are helping clarify my feelings.

 
Hugs and kisses,

 
jt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #360 on: April 14, 2013, 10:17:43 PM »

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #361 on: April 14, 2013, 10:55:48 PM »
Sterling needs a consultant to help him report on various free energy propositions.  Without a consultant it's like he is flying blind.

One thing I noticed about the Yildiz case is that he was in denial about the mechanical draw of the fan.  He was deluged with information from many people were the consensus was that the mechanical draw of the fan was somewhere between 5 and 30 watts.  This was both before the show and after the first day of the show when we got to see the fan they were using and the RPM.

With all of that information he still made a clip from the show where he stated that the fan load was about 380 watts.

It seems that people with free energy propositions can tell Sterling almost anything, and he will simply accept it without saying anything.  That is really not healthy at all.  In many cases people tell Sterling one thing, and then a few days later say something completely different and Sterling says nothing.  Look at the case of the smaller motor where there was supposed to be a "glove test" where you could "feel the power" by trying to brake the motor while holding the shaft.  The small motor never ran and Sterling probably never challenged the Yildiz team about the non-delivery of this test.  On top of that the Yildiz excuse was that there was "no controller" and again Sterling probably never questioned that.

It got a bit surreal when Sterling was commenting on the "sticky spot" for the small non-working motor as if it was something special.  Sterling has probably been familiar with this concept for 10 years and everybody knows it means nothing.

Not a happy story and Sterling will get some flack when he gets back.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #362 on: April 14, 2013, 11:42:21 PM »
Sterling is open minded, some call it naive. As investigating reporter he has the right mindset to walk over thin ice, that FE experiments are. OU devices turn up out of unexpected directions. Inventors are not that easy people to cope with. More and more people are interested and some are deeply involved in the FE field. It's good that Sterling visited the inventors fair in Geneva, as flying reporter, to write on his blog about the Yildiz motor. It is my only source of fresh information, even if there is no final breaktrough to report. Also  Adolf and Inge Schneider are inquisitive enough to represent the Europeen FE movement in there writings and conferences. It's a fascinating Quest For Overunity as JLNlabs calls it. To me this quest is also important rather than to concentrate only on the goal. I am glad that this OU forum is there to exchange personal experience's and doubt's. It's hard not to judge about FE inventions that are not yet validated. My viewpoint depends on the information out of the field, people like Sterling who go to visit physically the inventor/invention to report first hand info. But yes, I like more distance from the subject and more knowledge in the field of technics. That is the core of good journalism. I don't have any problem to donate money to get such a person via crowdfunding to the hot spot. Not a bad idea to go that way here in Europe. That together with a good edited FE blog I promise many views and interactions. Sorry, when I didn't mention here the many curious people doing, already for years, good work in the FE field.   

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #362 on: April 14, 2013, 11:42:21 PM »
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Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #363 on: April 15, 2013, 12:14:51 AM »
yeah yeah james.i feel you son,i feel you.ok,youre dismissed.

Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #364 on: April 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM »
no @milehigh.sterling has plenty enough consultants.that ken ruan guy on his team is no ignomous,he has extensive knowledge on physics and chemistry.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #364 on: April 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM »
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Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #365 on: April 15, 2013, 02:34:23 AM »
and @markdansie im shocked.didnt sterling promote your eefg mate?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #366 on: April 15, 2013, 02:54:26 AM »
Hi Profits
It was not my device, but I have been assisting (they do some work out of our lab)
We were not after any promotion but we did Sterling a favor as he did pass the lead onto me during my travels.
That project is doing well and independently funded.
On the side before I knew better, myself and others like me wasted thousands on Sterling's wild goose chases. Like Africa last year. However we take responsibility for that, we soon learned not to trust his technical assessment or the fact he only reports what is "positive" of supports the claim, not any other data. Often the other data is overwhelmingly the other way as in the case of Yilditz. He just conveniently forgot to report all that when he asked for your money.
The work of a true spin doctor
Mark
 

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #366 on: April 15, 2013, 02:54:26 AM »
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Offline JouleSeeker

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #367 on: April 15, 2013, 06:29:13 AM »
@Mark -- I appreciate that you have traveled extensively and studied many alleged "ou" devices.

May I ask -- have you seen ANY such devices that are
1.  Clearly "ou", to your satisfaction
and
2.  Produce > 10 Watts of net power?

I have seen your video of the small disk-collector and that is fascinating, but does not seem to produce over 10 W.  (Correct?) 

If you have seen such a device (or devices), can you tell us at least what TYPE of device it is or who developed it? 

   (I've just completed a study of the Gegene approach using an induction cooktop and found no evidence at this time for ou, using calorimetric methods for the output power.  That is one "type."  I'm returning to electrolysis studies in light water -- another "type". )   

Offline CazadorDeTruchos

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #368 on: April 15, 2013, 07:15:23 AM »
If Sterling is open minded, IS NOT EXCUSE TO BE BE A LIAR.

He requested the funds "specifically" to travel and validate (somehow) the Yidilz´s motor.

If he wants a holidays in the Swiss Alps, then ...  HE PAYS WITH HIS OWN MONEY.

I disagree about Sterling only being a reporter ... you left out the word "investigative" ...and he ain't doing no investigation.

What investigacion did Steling? Only I can see a stupid boy, filming his adventures of teenager.

I'm starting to lean towards the feeling that Sterling might just be sabotaging the free energy movement. He seems to be the first to fall for anything and everything.

I have taken the trouble to investigate (something that STERLING did not), and I call to TU DELFT, and TU Eindhoven universities.
These are the universities where Yildiz made his DEMOS. Remember?.

Well, I could talk with some professors of these universities, and I was very surprised that they told me about the Yildiz DEMO.

I'm gathering more information and I will give you.

Take in advance this: Yildiz simply is a scam!!

Only 2 calls were enough, and did not need to do this whole charade!!

- - - STERLING YOU SHOULD FELL ASHAMED - - -

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #368 on: April 15, 2013, 07:15:23 AM »
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Offline wings

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #369 on: April 15, 2013, 07:36:12 AM »
Take in advance this: Yildiz simply is a scam!!

Only 2 calls were enough, and did not need to do this whole charade!!

- - - STERLING YOU SHOULD FELL ASHAMED - - -

? you are sure of your statements ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b-MSiQTXIG0
http://www.overunity.com/5011/david-hamel-generator/msg107979/#msg107979
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0710/0710.1565v2.pdf

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #370 on: April 15, 2013, 10:32:31 AM »
Hi Wings
In answer to your question
Yes
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #370 on: April 15, 2013, 10:32:31 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #371 on: April 15, 2013, 10:42:57 AM »
Hi Joule Seeker
Thank you for sharing your experience
The device I demonstrated in Holland is only in the micro-watts, not even a milli-watts.
I will leave out LENR out of the following statements as there appears to be something worth researching further:
1. I and many others I know have never seen a device demonstrate any over-unity or a self running closed loop system.
2. I have never seen a self running magnetic motor that did not run without the assistance of another energy input
3. I have never seen a gravity or buoyancy device self run long enough where other inputs could not be discounted
4. i have never seen any evidence that a noble gas engine could run with more output than input
5. I have never seen any technologies sterling has listed, reported on that have held up to the claims.
This does not mean nothing is out there, just that the history has not been kind
Hope that is helpful
Kind Regards
Mark




Offline Johan_1955

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #372 on: April 15, 2013, 10:45:09 AM »

Dear All,


Very whise? words from every one here!


Can some one than also explain, why the coins are sticking at the outside of his Magnet-Motor?



Kind regards,
Johan Oostrom


www.oostrom-technics.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/OostromTechnicsSL


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Offline JouleSeeker

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #374 on: April 15, 2013, 03:44:11 PM »
Hi Joule Seeker
Thank you for sharing your experience
The device I demonstrated in Holland is only in the micro-watts, not even a milli-watts.
I will leave out LENR out of the following statements as there appears to be something worth researching further:
1. I and many others I know have never seen a device demonstrate any over-unity or a self running closed loop system.
2. I have never seen a self running magnetic motor that did not run without the assistance of another energy input
3. I have never seen a gravity or buoyancy device self run long enough where other inputs could not be discounted
4. i have never seen any evidence that a noble gas engine could run with more output than input
5. I have never seen any technologies sterling has listed, reported on that have held up to the claims.
This does not mean nothing is out there, just that the history has not been kind
Hope that is helpful
Kind Regards
Mark

Thank you, Mark, for your reply. 

  I also find LENR to be in a class by itself with intriguing hints of "anomalous heat episodes."  Personally I find the work at NRL and Univ. of Missouri to provide the most clear evidence.

The presence of radio emissions in conjunction with the anomalous heat episodes is particularly surprising.

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