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markdansie

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #210 on: June 04, 2010, 10:05:30 PM »
@Stefan
I remember when i first saw the BSMH device I did some follow up. I quickly came to a conclusion it was a scam. he has recently used the same formula of media hype and trying to get credability of association. Like demonstrating it a university does not mean that it is endorsed by such an institution.
I feel for anyone who has wasted their time or money on the pursuit of this.
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #211 on: July 17, 2010, 01:49:23 PM »
I hope this thread isn't dead. Are there any recent developments? Any where on the web?
I can't find any new material on this motor. John

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #212 on: July 17, 2010, 11:34:36 PM »
I hope this thread isn't dead. Are there any recent developments? Any where on the web?
I can't find any new material on this motor. John
The reason is simple - it was a scam...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #213 on: July 18, 2010, 04:17:56 PM »
That doesn't surprise me too much, But when was this discovered? I thought I was following this thread pretty close. How did he pull off the scam? Where were the batteries? Where was the motor? How was it coupled to the rotor? Who determined it was a scam? John.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #215 on: July 19, 2010, 03:54:35 AM »
SOOOOOO.......was there a link to proof of scam? I'm Sorry, I' m not the most computer literate, But I didn't see any proof of scam on this link. ( I've been watching this page every day) Did somebody find batteries? Where exactly is the scam? I would really like to learn where these scams are just so I don't get my hopes up. I'm sure you understand. Thanks, John

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #216 on: July 19, 2010, 09:16:09 AM »
The reason is simple - it was a scam...
Simply don't say a word if you know nothing about the subject, ok ? There is no info about this to be a scam anywhere, so you have no right to say so !

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #217 on: July 19, 2010, 09:16:09 AM »
Me and another user ran a sound analysis of the video and revealed some critical issues. The motor which seams to have constant speed, did actually dropped. The fan that was mounted was reversed - probably to reduce load and expand running time. The motor was never fully disassambled, the inventor has been scamming before. Many things that point in a direction of a classical scam, and the guy and his fellow smells quite fishy... How the story continued from there, I don't know. Just that I know a motor that is based on magnets cannot work is the most obvious evidence this is a scam (making money out of something you cannot deliver) 
Vidar

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #218 on: July 19, 2010, 09:48:46 AM »
Me and another user ran a sound analysis of the video and revealed some critical issues. The motor which seams to have constant speed, did actually dropped. The fan that was mounted was reversed - probably to reduce load and expand running time. The motor was never fully disassambled, the inventor has been scamming before. Many things that point in a direction of a classical scam, and the guy and his fellow smells quite fishy... How the story continued from there, I don't know. Just that I know a motor that is based on magnets cannot work is the most obvious evidence this is a scam (making money out of something you cannot deliver) 
Vidar

I tested his suggestion of magnetic misalignment of an inner and an outer stator (see previous posts). It was like with the Perendev claim: more a brake than an engine. No sign of selfrunning whatsoever.

hidave

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #219 on: October 28, 2010, 09:59:37 PM »
I have schematic for motor generator.

Need to couple to SSG or Rodin coil type setup to charge Battery.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #220 on: October 28, 2010, 10:36:00 PM »
I have schematic for motor generator.

Need to couple to SSG or Rodin coil type setup to charge Battery.

Have you actually built and tested your "schematic" by yourself to verify the functionality?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #221 on: October 29, 2010, 09:35:54 AM »
I have schematic for motor generator.

Need to couple to SSG or Rodin coil type setup to charge Battery.

It reminds me of the so-called srcew-motor design and the recent Luis Tonos probable scam.  The first never worked in replication and the second most probably neither. Moreover this is not related to Yildiz at all and should be posted at a separate thread for serious review.

The screw motor design:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Screw-Magnet_Motor

The probable Tonos-scam: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:_Luis_Tonos_%28LT%29_Magnet_Motor

hidave

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #222 on: October 29, 2010, 10:58:34 AM »
It reminds me of the so-called srcew-motor design and the recent Luis Tonos probable scam.  The first never worked in replication and the second most probably neither. Moreover this is not related to Yildiz at all and should be posted at a separate thread for serious review.

The screw motor design:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Screw-Magnet_Motor

The probable Tonos-scam: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:_Luis_Tonos_%28LT%29_Magnet_Motor
hmmm... I'm replicating this motor now, will post result.

If you are so sure that it is a scam, why not contact Peswiki and have them remove this motor from their home page, it is featured.


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #223 on: October 30, 2010, 12:05:05 PM »
hmmm... I'm replicating this motor now, will post result.

If you are so sure that it is a scam, why not contact Peswiki and have them remove this motor from their home page, it is featured.
Stirling Allen of Peswiki takes the side of the staunch believer. He does no replications checking himself in this case. He has a point that belief in this takes you farther than disbelief. But all the tiresome trials he does not perform. Nor do I do them all. Just a test of principle seemed enough to me, but waterproof that is not. Generally I have little confidence if investors are attracted before any formal confirmation has been accomplished in the form of a replication or otherwise.  And there are more criteria to expose scammers. Yildiz certainly scores bad on many of these criteria.  But still another attempt to replicate his suggestion might strengthen the case against him. The chance of a succesful replication in his case I guess is smaller than 1%, unless you are a scammer yourself of course.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #224 on: January 05, 2011, 04:29:37 PM »

Hoax or not.. As long as they can't tax the use; they powers that be (governments etc) will not allow it to become public available.

Thats why we need open source, unstoppable, wide spread designs.

Totally agree!