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Rapadura

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2010, 03:59:59 AM »
Greed is not good. Greed delays human progress.

If I had invented an all- magnet motor the last thing I should do would try to become a billionaire. I should make it open source to everyone replicate freely.

I'd be rich anyway, giving lectures and writing books. No need to be a billionaire.

TechStuf

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2010, 06:06:09 AM »

Get real, guys.  Who here has any remaining shadow of an inkling of a doubt that TPTB don't already have exotic energy sources by now???

Anybody?

What they have is formidable.  Most, if not all of it, plucked from truly gifted men at the end of the sword, hypodermic needle, aerosol spray nozzle, or beam weapon of some kind.

Any joe blow maverick researcher will not be allowed to compete unless it is by design, with such individual dancing at the end of both visible and hidden strings.


"Who can wage war with the beast?".....


We'll see soon enough.....


Too soon for many.



Blessings in Christ Yeshua







Omnibus

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #122 on: April 24, 2010, 06:34:51 AM »
What's TPTB?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2010, 10:05:14 AM »
What's TPTB?
"the powers that be" <-- to heck with those creeps.

We will share it with everybody... tptb can't stop us.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2010, 05:35:31 PM by zerotensor »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2010, 01:23:57 PM »
If you live by the sword ,
you determine your own destiny!

With every new breathe we can choose to change ours!
[really good stuff]!

Change is upon us !
Change that no sword can stay!
A silk worm is "about"!

Chet

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2010, 07:13:49 PM »
Omnibus, I totally agree.

Free energy for everybody would be a disaster for the present power structure,
and a pain in the ass for the guys that like to stay in charge.

Over Unity solutions are directly opposing the existing monetary system and will never be accepted
in the present context of our political-economical systems.

What surprises me is this naivitee expressed by all free energy inventors of today.

Free energy is a contradiction to all existing societies of today, wich are all based on unfree means of competition.

The only way to implement free energy in the present structure of society would be by waiting until our old fashioned
resources like oil are totally emptied, which won´t be in the predicted 2025 since they have found a new type of high viscous
oil-related material in vast amounts fully possible to convert to oil derivates like petrol and the like, wich may serve
the interests of the oil industry for many hundreds of years.

The key to global free energy is a combination of unselfishness and self sustain.

My advice to the free energy inventors of today is:  Don´t play the old game that is controlled by the giants.

They who set the rules, always win.

Beat them by their weakest point: unselfishness. Rise above your patent dreams and post your inventions on the Internet.

In the end free energy products are going to annihilate the economic system anyway, so why wait?

Tune In to the open source, Turn On your own free energy engine, and Drop Out of the present society.

Become self sustaining regarding your energy consumption, and society will change by itself.

Gwandau

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2010, 09:30:55 PM »
[A author=zerotensor link=topic=8870.msg238749#msg238749 date=1272050267]
I did a spectral analysis of the audio from the demonstration.  It appears that the machine slows down a little bit.  Here is a portion of the spectrogram:
[/quote]I did a little experiment in Photoshop. If I want to make a line, I can hold down "shift" key" while making the line to force absolute horizontal line.
In the attached picture below, it prooves what seems like a gradually decreasing rpm goes actually in steps. It means each of the three shots from the camcorder was taken with a relatively long time apart. If this is of any interest.

And the picture ofcourse:
« Last Edit: April 24, 2010, 11:08:24 PM by Low-Q »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2010, 10:49:26 PM »
This motor looks very similar to the Perendev motor and most of us know what a fantastic fake this motor was.  One has to keep in mind that the Perendev motor was also opened up on video at the end of its demonstration.  I personally hope that the free energy magnetic motor is real and not a hoax. 

Someone in this “Magnet Motors” forum should approach or email the inventor to convince him to allow this website or someone from it to complete a replication of his motor.  I know there are very talented and remarkable individuals here at Overunity.com that can easily build this motor given all the proper specifications.  This is the only solid way that his motor and its claims can ever be established.  I am completely devoted to hydrogen related technologies and therefore completing a replication of this motor is outside the area of my expertise.

Hoping this is a real motor,
Chessnyt

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2010, 10:53:36 PM »
Check it Out this channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/theENERGYDREAM
http://www.youtube.com/user/theENERGYDREAM#g/u

This channel have a lot of magnet motor related information.

Low-Q

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2010, 11:29:20 PM »
Has anyone seen that the fan is mounted the wrong way (Blades are curved outwards (Convex))? Mounting a fan this way will require less energy to rotate. I bet there would be much more power output, (and probably a shorter demonstration) if the fan was mounted correctly.

Any opinion about this (Except that I am trying to convince myself that this motor is a hoax  ;D LOL)

Vidar

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2010, 01:27:55 AM »
Hey Vidar,

I just found this (on Perendev, and others) ... I was not aware that magnetic motors "that start to run thru magnetic power" are so common after all ... and all a hoax:

(excerpt, took from: http://www.nuscam.com/perendev.htm )

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I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss
Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its
level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't
reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the
popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most
expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they
are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will
run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic
motors".

-----------------------------------------

So from here it runs down (no pun intended) that any motor filled with magnets in oposing way, would actually work if cleverly placed, but they will run down very quickly (as the sonogram actually shows).

Case is closed folks, it seems...

SigmaX

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2010, 02:03:25 AM »
I believe,
that the statement of Keith Anderson having seen the Perendev Motor
is just not true,
cause Mike Brady, who was recently arrested
has never shown his motor to anybody outside as far as I know
and his video was obviously faked with somebody using
a drill (not beeing seen at the side of the videoframe ) turning the motor.

Didn´t you all wonder, why he never showed new videos
of his motor ?

Now Brady is arrested to have sucked out money from 61 persons
who paid each 20.000 Euros for the motor and never getting anything delivered...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #132 on: April 25, 2010, 02:06:04 AM »
Hey Vidar,

I just found this (on Perendev, and others) ... I was not aware that magnetic motors "that start to run thru magnetic power" are so common after all ... and all a hoax:

(excerpt, took from: http://www.nuscam.com/perendev.htm )

-----------------------------------------

I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss
Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its
level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't
reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the
popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most
expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they
are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will
run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic
motors".

-----------------------------------------

So from here it runs down (no pun intended) that any motor filled with magnets in oposing way, would actually work if cleverly placed, but they will run down very quickly (as the sonogram actually shows).

Case is closed folks, it seems...

SigmaX

Show me an all magnet motor that would make more than one full turn self-starting and don't worry about magnets running down. Where can I see this?
« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 02:26:12 AM by Omnibus »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #133 on: April 25, 2010, 02:12:24 AM »
Regarding the
Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
it seems that the audio diagramm shows it quite nice,
that the RPM is going down and this
tells me, that the motor is
powered internally via batteries, which are
slowly discharging.

So the statement that there are EMF coils,
which just stabilize the RPM is not very plausible...

I don´t think that it could be magnets, which wear out
and discharge their magnetism...

As it is obvious, that there are coils inside there,
it is very probably that there is also a hidden battery
that is discharging.

Has anybody asked Muammer Yildiz  what happened
with his earlier device and why he did not come forward with this again ?

He had also a big claim then at this time in 2005 when he had his
ALubox-Case device and he never delivered any real device or
did say, how it worked...
It just vanished and he might just had cashed in a few
investor monies for it and then vanished ?

Why did nobody ask him about his old device and what came out of it ?

The new motor with the decreasing RPM just sounds to easy to be
any real working magnet motor...

How did he stop the motor again at the demonstration ?

Could anybody, who have seen it let us please know, how he stopped it ?
Did he loosen any cable outside or just stopped the shaft ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #134 on: April 25, 2010, 02:20:00 AM »
Stefan.

I hear that Muammer Yildiz is going to present his motor somewhere in Germany. I thought you might be interested in attending. I am very curious to know what  your impressions are. Are you planning on attending?