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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 734404 times)

Offline LarryC

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2010, 05:55:23 PM »
More info at http://pesn.com/2010/04/22/9501639_Yildiz_demonstrates_magnet_motor_at_Delft_University/

'The wind speed and air density were measured, and the output was estimated to be around 250 Watts (not mentioned in the video).  Also, after the video was turned off, the fan was removed from the device, and several people tried stopping the shaft with their hands but were unable to.'

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #46 on: April 22, 2010, 06:15:00 PM »
Larry, this is all well and good but it still doesn't amount to rigorous testing and only smells of propaganda. It's even more disturbing if there were students there who were shown a wrong lesson as to how science proceeds in such cases. Of course, if what we saw were all there was to that presentation. I'd like to think that the university will undertake further studies before allowing someone to use its name.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2010, 06:27:30 PM »
Find out if the the attendees are the board of regents and the younger guys are being groomed.
Could this be a push to raise the student quota in bad times?
Or an International Phishing expedition for a prarie dog hunt?
Isn't that the same area of the world as the Bilderbergs startup?

Sceptism is our best defense.

I need more data. Or the public is just being fed crumbs of false hope.

The simplicity will spread like wild fire and the masses will not be able to be stopped. The lurkers will finally win out. And that is grand! They are the foot soldiers of OU hitting the beaches while the royalty of OU assess the defenses and losses to regroup and replan another attempt.

And remember, Propaganda is used to propel or prospect...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2010, 06:55:04 PM »
[ =Omnibus link=topic=8870.msg238510#msg238510 date=1271935872]
So, can someone contact these people at Delft  (@Cloxxki was very good at making contacts in Holland during the times of Sjack Abeling splash) and ask them if they were allowed to inspect the motor thoroughly? I guess Yilmaz wasn't there just for the period of the video, taking off the minute it ended. Delft University is a prestigious science center and I don't think they's be happy to lose reputation so lightly by perpetrating fraud. Can someone ask what were the conditions under which Yildiz would assist a third party to replicate his device?
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This looks promising. The patent differs from this machine though.This is a later development so it seems. The patent - 12 Febr. 2009 , with no claim of overunity - shows an inside stator of an ascending row of vertical magnets. The outside stator has an equal vertical row stretching all around. The rotor in between has a checker pattern of round magnets 10 degrees out of alignment. All polarities repel. The strength of the magnet field thus alternates relative to the inside stator. If true an amazing discovery. Certainly worth replicating!


Video address: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3227d5Css
Europatent WO 2009019001  (A2): http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?locale=en_EP&KC=A2&date=20090212&NR=2009019001A2&DB=EPODOC&CC=WO&FT=D
Peswiki page: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Muammer_Yildiz_Magnet_Motor

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2010, 07:03:14 PM »
Looks promesing to mee this motor, but I am sceptic as long there is wires (As it appears to me) all over the place on this motor. The twisting, the scratch-noise, and the hammer he is using is probably to release a lock - if this motor is a magnet motor, the torque is probably present all the time. Still a bit sceptic, but also filled with some fresh hope :)

Sceptic because LiPo batteries (just for an example) are small and powerful - easy to hide inside this motor..... At 250 watts this motor can run for hours. The person who talks in the demo ask the crowd if they want to wait for another 10 minutes before disassambly? Couldt, they just put this motor in a room next door and let it run during the whole meeting? Or did they do extended tests to it after the camera was shut down?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2010, 07:06:18 PM »
...........

This looks promising. The patent differs from this machine though.This is a later development so it seems. The patent - 12 Febr. 2009 , with no claim of overunity - shows an inside stator of an ascending row of vertical magnets. The outside stator has an equal vertical row stretching all around. The rotor in between has a checker pattern of round magnets 10 degrees out of alignment. All polarities repel. The strength of the magnet field thus alternates relative to the inside stator. If true an amazing discovery. Certainly worth replicating!


Worth a try with FEMM - at least :)

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2010, 07:42:57 PM »
The idea looks very clever and novel. It would be a threat to the superconducting industry.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2010, 07:53:39 PM »
The idea looks very clever and novel. It would be a threat to the superconducting industry.

The threat OU technologies pose are well known and superconducting industry is well down the list.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2010, 08:06:29 PM »
The hammer sets an initial spark gap in play.
There is an immense quantity of Bloch Wall connection / disconnection going on. This is a virtual spark gap process. But this device has 2 circumferal layers of x amount between each side of the layers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mww4p5moloo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5lXNpOnurw&feature=player_embedded#!

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2010, 08:18:58 PM »
This was his old invention:

http://www.rexresearch.com/yildiz/yildiz.htm

He never came forward with this.

This former event at the Delft university
was only put on Turkish TV it seems,
but nobody from the Delft people have put videos or pictures
up on youtube from this former event ???
Why not ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Y3n1bOtn4


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2010, 08:20:39 PM »
The hammer sets an initial spark gap in play.
There is an immense quantity of Bloch Wall connection / disconnection going on. This is a virtual spark gap process. But this device has 2 circumferal layers of x amount between each side of the layers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mww4p5moloo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5lXNpOnurw&feature=player_embedded#!

Do you know this for a fact or these are just your suppositions?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2010, 08:24:02 PM »
Listen to the crack of the hammer.
Also when ever magnets swing past each other they connect/disconnect with flux. You make that happen very fast and you get energy. Bedini motor does this.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2010, 08:25:23 PM »
This was his old invention:

http://www.rexresearch.com/yildiz/yildiz.htm

He never came forward with this.

This former event at the Delft university
was only put on Turkish TV it seems,
but nobody from the Delft people have put videos or pictures
up on youtube from this former event ???
Why not ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Y3n1bOtn4

So there has been an earlier presentation by Muammer Yildiz at elft University, correct? That's strange -- they invite him for a visit from time to time but never take him up on his claims. What is going on?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2010, 08:30:03 PM »
Listen to the crack of the hammer.
Also when ever magnets swing past each other they connect/disconnect with flux. You make that happen very fast and you get energy. Bedini motor does this.

Comparison with Bedini motor is irrelevant since it has never been proven to be OU through rigorous studies. Until such studies are done it will remain as nothing more than amusement for schoolgirls.

As for the hammer, it very well may be that he needs it to break a lock holding the rotor from turning spontaneously. Couldn't he figure out some other kind of brake? Makes you wonder.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2010, 08:45:59 PM »
The professors in Delft University are not stupid. They are not network marketing men selling amego wands.

It is ironic to see so many folks in this forum being attracted to ameego wands, but not this motor.

« Last Edit: April 23, 2010, 07:11:08 AM by blueplanet »