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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 649347 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #705 on: April 30, 2013, 10:31:02 PM »
I believe Mark is referring to Wayne Travis and the ZED.

http://mrwaynesbrain.com/

Travis posts a "progress report" approximately weekly in the "Current Objectives" tab. Going back some months and then reading forwards will give you a pretty good feel for what's going on. There was a long thread here on this forum concerning Travis and his claims, which he finally asked to be closed because of the pressure from skeptical onlookers who wanted him to provide actual evidence for his claims, rather than a bunch of gobbledegook. It's my opinion at this point that there is a cult operating in Chickasha Oklahoma, and Travis is its guru.

As you read, be aware that Travis claimed, fully a year or more ago, to have a working, self-running system producing excess energy that would run itself with no input, no exhaust, providing useful output work. But as anyone can tell from reading the past few progress reports, there is no self-running model now, and there wasn't then, and there never has been.


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #705 on: April 30, 2013, 10:31:02 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #706 on: April 30, 2013, 11:29:07 PM »
Mark:

Thanks for your comments.  When I first read Wayne's postings his technical language was simply silly and made no sense.  I asked him how he measured his output power and refused to acknowledge the question at first.  He eventually begrudgingly acknowledged the question but never answered it.  Many months later and all that you get from him are pseudoscience "sermons" about his bliss on his website.

So Wayne fits into that mould that we are all too familiar with.

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Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #707 on: May 01, 2013, 01:02:23 AM »
@markdansie.see if you can find a flaw in the karpen cell.its been powering a motor the last 50years non-stop.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #707 on: May 01, 2013, 01:02:23 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #708 on: May 01, 2013, 01:13:30 AM »
Mark .. I was unaware you had been banned from Sterling's site & presumably have fallen out of favour.


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #709 on: May 01, 2013, 08:37:56 AM »
@markdansie.see if you can find a flaw in the karpen cell.its been powering a motor the last 50years non-stop.

Big deal. A pair of Zamboni dry piles has been running a little electrostatic motor since 1840. See "Oxford Electric Bell."


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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #709 on: May 01, 2013, 08:37:56 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #710 on: May 01, 2013, 08:47:51 AM »
Mark:

Thanks for your comments.  When I first read Wayne's postings his technical language was simply silly and made no sense.  I asked him how he measured his output power and refused to acknowledge the question at first.  He eventually begrudgingly acknowledged the question but never answered it.  Many months later and all that you get from him are pseudoscience "sermons" about his bliss on his website.

So Wayne fits into that mould that we are all too familiar with.

MileHigh

There are some unique features of the Wayne Travis / HydroEnergyRevolution story. The one that stands out the most in my mind is that Travis has actually +paid money out+ to people who have made little models of nested tubes.... one builder received a substantial amount of money for his build which was made from tennis ball packaging tubes cut to shape and glued and taped together.... and others have also gotten payments of money from Travis. These people of course are now sycophants of Travis, even though their constructions produce no unusual behaviour. Two thousand dollars buys a lot of loyalty, evidently.
The "cult" aspect is also clear from the history. Travis has invited many people to see and hear his demonstrations. Most of them probably understand perfectly what is going on and flee with their wallets and checkbooks intact. But he has been able to convince some few "faithful", even apparently including some trained engineers, that his fantasy is worth pursuing. These become defacto members of the ZED cult, and are supported financially and socially within the cult. This selection process is identical to that used by religious and UFO cults, which as we all know, wind up including some people who should really know better.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #711 on: May 01, 2013, 09:29:03 AM »
@tk.yes it becomes a big deal when the power density of a similar type of cell goes up a hundred-fold,incentive for the markdansies of the world to come over to my lab. 

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #711 on: May 01, 2013, 09:29:03 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #712 on: May 01, 2013, 05:27:51 PM »
TK,

REALLY???

You are still carrying on about all that,, let me see,, I built a testbed for a method to build, then tested the testbed and things looked great,, then I reported to everyone what I was finding, to the best of my abilities, and just because you can not do the same???

Small note on this,  TK could never find any residual pressure after the lift, or any use for it,, or what ever he kept carrying on about,,

And now you have blown it all up into a Cult,, next you are going to make out that Wayne is some kind ,, why give you more fodder.

Really.
Tell me, Webby. Does Mister Wayne now have a self-running device that operates without input or exhaust and produces useful excess energy? Did he ever?

Small note on this: Get your facts straight.  I actually DID build a "self-powered water pump" incorporating a WORKING single - layer ZED nested riser-ringwall assembly and showed that it DID INDEED increase pressure and flow rate, at the expense of flow duration. My work on the Travis/Zed issue is available for anyone to see in my YouTube videos. There has never been any question about the _leverage_ that is afforded by the nested hydraulic cylinder arrangement. But that's not the issue, the issue is and always has been Travis's claim to have a self running machine, and things like his promise to build a 50 kW unit in the churchyard, when, three years ago now wasn't it?
You, Webby, were bought and paid for by Wayne Travis and you don't even realize it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #713 on: May 02, 2013, 10:55:16 AM »
@tk.they say the gamboni pile gives nanoamperes to the oxford motor and is a ordinary zinc-carbon system with solid electrolyte whilst the karpen pile gives milliamperes to its motor and is by no means a ordinary galvanic system.they measured its voltage about 3 yrs ago and its precisely the same as it was in 1953

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #713 on: May 02, 2013, 10:55:16 AM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #714 on: May 02, 2013, 01:22:26 PM »
@tk.yes it becomes a big deal when the power density of a similar type of cell goes up a hundred-fold,incentive for the markdansies of the world to come over to my lab.
Dear profits, I would be delighted, most of all I would be delighted to see your data and measurement methodologies. The measurements are where most people go wrong as Tk is far more qualified than I to point out, especially with pulsed dc and ac.
I am not sure of what your technology is so it would be wrong of me to speculate in anyway. i have an open mind, but in reality its been 100% bust in the past. However I will say there are some great new applications of old technology that can and will have a big influence on people.
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #715 on: May 02, 2013, 01:25:55 PM »
Big deal. A pair of Zamboni dry piles has been running a little electrostatic motor since 1840. See "Oxford Electric Bell."
Yes indeed they are curiosities and we have in the past replicated them to some degree. However the amount of power available vs the capital cost makes it far from viable. in the magnitudes of hundreds of times. They are worthwhile researching further to learn from, and are interesting, but of little value i solving a mass energy crisis.
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #715 on: May 02, 2013, 01:25:55 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #716 on: May 02, 2013, 01:34:44 PM »
Sure thing TK,, like you are not bought and paid for yourself WHEN you get a gig,,
Once again, you really should get your facts straight.
EVERY SINGLE THING, with one exception, that I have EVER posted about in this forum has been completely and totally funded out of my own pocket. I have never received a SINGLE RED CENT in compensation or help and my over four hundred YouTube videos are still completely advertisement-free.
The exception is Orbette 2.0, which I was allowed to work on during working hours at my paid job. However, I paid for all components of that system out of my own pocket, again.
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This is not the thread for this conversation,, There are enough interesting things going on here as it is.
That depends on your viewpoint, doesn't it. Yet another discussion about yet another hyped-up set of claims that can't be supported with evidence, and solid evidence of money being tossed down the drain in furtherance of garnering investment ..... I find that interesting indeed.
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AND,, my espresso is better than your instant,, so there, take that :)

I'm sure it is.

But I'm also sure you didn't answer my question: Does Wayne Travis now have, or has he ever had, a device that runs itself with no input, no exhaust, no internal pre-supplied source of energy, is "clearly overunity by itself" (direct quote from Travis), and produces useful output energy over and above what it takes to run it?
You are a member of the secret forum, I think, so you ought to know. Or does your NDA prevent you from talking about it?

ETA: I have received a few components from friends, the most recent being the glass sphere (a bathysphere) that I am using for a vacuum chamber.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #717 on: May 02, 2013, 01:38:12 PM »
Mark .. I was unaware you had been banned from Sterling's site & presumably have fallen out of favour.
Sadly I and many other great commentators have been banned. Also only a small percentage of posts get through as 95% of them do not agree with him. He does allow some through in order to promote balance. After his Yilditz fiasco his latest crowd fund raiser has not had a single donation. I admire his efforts to find stories but he has cried wolf over 100 times and finally people are waking up to him.
he was running around at a conference we both attended telling people off who had been seen speaking to me, that got a few laughs as he lectured all these people on who they should or should not speak with. I guess that gives you a hint to his real motives.  Go read his scripture  ramblings on how he should have been preside[size=78%]nt in 2004.[/size]
I am far from perfect and get it wrong sometimes, I cheer the people like tK and many others pushing the envelope of knowledge why also being grounded as much as possible.
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #718 on: May 02, 2013, 01:41:40 PM »
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I am not sure your intent here ,however as far as fellows you should "trust"to test your device.
 And not sneak little bits and pieces off for some other "application"...
     There is only one fellow here that can be trusted...


TinselKoala


Others have some odd things attached to their "benevolence"...
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #719 on: May 02, 2013, 02:51:38 PM »
Thanks, Chet... but it all depends on what you mean by "Trusted" doesn't it.

I won't sign an NDA, for example, unless I am actually being hired, for money, as a consultant. Any work that I do on stuff that I read about or volunteer for, I must be allowed to share completely in public, for example on this forum.

Also, I'm as error-prone as .... well, I almost said "anybody" but let's just say... as most people. That is why I encourage anyone with the ability and the tools to repeat whatever work I do that leads to a conclusion, and confirm or refute my results and conclusions for themselves. Especially check my math, as decimal points seem to swim around sometimes in my vision.

 

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