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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 688115 times)

Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #555 on: April 23, 2013, 12:18:46 PM »
by the way domichi,did you notice that the vast majority of overunity device experiments on this website and other websites are in some way related to induction.there are some very complicated circuits and some very simple ones but all of them point back to the basic coil and paramagnetic core.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #555 on: April 23, 2013, 12:18:46 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #556 on: April 23, 2013, 03:04:16 PM »
Have you noticed that @DomiChi and @profitis are always together, almost at the same time? Never one at a time.

They never are separate, always are together defending to YILDIZ´s KIND OF MAGIC.

WILL BE THE SAME PERSON WITH 2 DIFFERENT NICKs.?

Have you noticed that?

Looks like Yildiz´s Team pays very well ...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #557 on: April 23, 2013, 05:23:01 PM »
Have you noticed that @DomiChi and @profitis are always together, almost at the same time? Never one at a time.

They never are separate, always are together defending to YILDIZ´s KIND OF MAGIC.

WILL BE THE SAME PERSON WITH 2 DIFFERENT NICKs.?

Have you noticed that?

Looks like Yildiz´s Team pays very well ...
Of course, we are almost on the same time line. Near the server time line. With minimum 6h difference with you (you have to know a minimum geography).
I remember to have learn that in one of my first school http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-political-map-2000px.jpg
If you can look where is France, South Africa, and your country.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #557 on: April 23, 2013, 05:23:01 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #558 on: April 23, 2013, 05:28:36 PM »
yes air friction and shaft friction would definitly put a limit on speed of any such device.personaly i believe that if yildiz,s motor is genuine then he must be using either coils or metalic material to self-induct with eddies and change the properties of the magnetic field around each magnet as the other magnet passes by.this is not a simple case of just magnets repulsing each other like so many guys have tried before.we have to look at inductor circuits like rosemary ainslie,or beardin etc and try to find out if the kickback of such inductors is truly is larger than the input.therein lies the clue domichi,if inductors can work then there will be a way for a motor to work because it will then fall in line with the thermodynamics theory of steven.j.smith(google steven.j.smith magnetothermodynamics)
Another thing that is genuine is the double rotor, with the inside rotor creating magnetic dynamic for all the engine. Effect creating condition for the cause is not usual. Only quantic physic already admit that (“gomme quantique” (quantum eraser)).
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 07:38:19 PM by DomiChi »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #559 on: April 23, 2013, 05:46:32 PM »
Shadowpt first posts on this forum were to say that he did succeed with his project. But as Yildiz succeed, he moved on this thread, and he already decided that as he did not succeed himself, other cannot. This post bellow post was before Geneva demo.
But Shadowpt project was only on FEMM. I know myself, for having maid prototype, that FEMM give not always the good answer. And I have seen some posts saying the same.
One off the wrong said from others, Shadowpt does not know magnetic viscosity (known since 1895). Google"ewing magnetic viscosity". And also do not know that friction torque increase with speed, like Foucault effect (3 mains reason to self limiting speed).

I have another brain schema. If I do not succeed, what can I learn from Yidiz? 30 years of observation is not nothing.
I already have seen good ideas from Yildiz, but it is complicated in DIY. I want to try to do something easy and cheap to do at home if possible. There is a lot of good ideas on Internet. A lot stop before any prototype, and any proof that it will not work (R.Calloway has some that he let us try). And if I cannot succeed with magnet, I will try Schauberger hydro turbine, and R.Vialle principle. But I will not consider magnet as scam. Just, magnets need more precise conception and adjustment that I did.

Oh silly DomiChi, you still don't read what is being written, in my posts I express my skepticism as to why are my results showing overunity when it clearly shouldn't , I even say that I have been studying the most common configurations to understand how they work and that all of them should always return a net result force of 0, the 2 that I found were providing a different kind of result, one I already figured out and the other I am still trying to find my mistake so I posted here to get help from anyone that might see the mistake better than me.

You would notice that right away if you even checked the title of those threads:

"Requesting decent analysis on FEMM simulation data"
"Need some help with magnetic field simulation data analysis"

Do you know what "analysis" means?

Yet again you don't even read what you talk about, childish domichi :D thats the problem with taking things out of context.

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One off the wrong said from others, Shadowpt does not know magnetic viscosity

And after reading with more depth about the testimony of Allan I noticed that he had pancake coils to controll the maximum speed of the machine, which I even posted after

As I said before (only one thing I withdraw which is the coils that are used to limit the speed which I confused with electronic dyno limiters that I averiguated after checking the full machine declaration)....

So, now that this is clear for you that DomiChi has no clue about research and just keeps taking things out of context, what will your big next step be?

I wonder how your magic machine will change the world, do you too want millions for your world wide patent?

Silly DomiChi, you keep trying to play this game but you keep losing everytime, it is so easy!

And remember, at least  I studied FEMM so I could try these things myself and learned it so I dont need to rely on the time of others, what have you done?

Hello everybody
In this document http://www.nuenergy.org/theoretical-self-sustaining-permanent-magnet-motor/ we can see a diagram where we can think that with this magnets configuration we obtain a rotating field.
I am not a magnetism specialist, is there somebody who can confirm that?
A FEMM simulation will be OK for me, but I don't know how to in FEMM.

Can we obtain the same with flat magnets (easier to find, this one http://www.supermagnete.de/Q-40-20-05-N for example).
Thanks in advance
Domi

Oh domichi, I guess you still keep proving that I am better than scoundrel like you ;D

You just said that you are not a magnetism specialist but you keep telling everyone that you know all about it, what a delusional child ;)


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One off the wrong said from others, Shadowpt does not know magnetic viscosity

I am curious, can you find another wrong? Or you will just make up fake words that I never said again? Now that is calumny, the same thing that you accused me of before, except that I have all the proof for my accusation, what do you have for yours? :D :D :D


DomiChi 0 - 15 shadowpt
I am still winning ;)

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #559 on: April 23, 2013, 05:46:32 PM »
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Offline profitis

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #560 on: April 23, 2013, 07:38:37 PM »
yes domichi,i heard somewhere that one of the inner rotors are made of nonmagnetic plastic or resin with magnets stuck in them,and the outside stator is metallic with magnets stuck inside,this sheds some light on a eddy current theory.did you ever meet naudin before? Did he have anything intresting to say in general.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #561 on: April 23, 2013, 07:58:15 PM »
You just said that you are not a magnetism specialist but you keep telling everyone that you know all about it, what a delusional child ;)
Since one month I had time to learn a lot from People sharing on Internet. Sharing knowledge and not gossip.
It is right that for you, one month is not enough to learn anything.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #562 on: April 23, 2013, 08:08:58 PM »
yes domichi,i heard somewhere that one of the inner rotors are made of nonmagnetic plastic or resin with magnets stuck in them,and the outside stator is metallic with magnets stuck inside,this sheds some light on a eddy current theory.did you ever meet naudin before? Did he have anything intresting to say in general.
To see Yildiz inside engine, I find good this one: http://youtu.be/mI3227d5Css from http://pesn.com/2010/04/22/9501639_Yildiz_demonstrates_magnet_motor_at_Delft_University/ We can well see inside if you stop the video.
On this pesn page there is ""I'd rather be an optimist and a fool than a pessimist and right." -- Albert Einstein" I agree.

Naudin is a positive guy, when he try something and that not work, he help to let it work. And if that works he tries to give some possible improvements.
In France he is a reference, in a lot of OU domain.
The problem is that we cannot join it. He have now some army contract of what Internet say.
On the Naudin site, there is often the counter part in English. Always well explain and his advice on OU. If I cannot succeed with pure magnetic system, I will perhaps try http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm#Orbo but bigger and with more toroïdal coil (I need more power).
With Naudin,another good site is http://www.fdp.nu/default_cached.html.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #563 on: April 23, 2013, 08:12:15 PM »
Have you noticed that @DomiChi and @profitis are always together, almost at the same time? Never one at a time.

They never are separate, always are together defending to YILDIZ´s KIND OF MAGIC.

WILL BE THE SAME PERSON WITH 2 DIFFERENT NICKs ?

Have you noticed that?

Looks like Yildiz´s Team pays well ...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #563 on: April 23, 2013, 08:12:15 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #564 on: April 23, 2013, 08:18:22 PM »
@de truchos..you are realy beginning to sound crazy man.do i have a neon flashbulb on my t-shirt saying 'eat at yildiz resturant'?we are trying to chek out if thers anything that will support a working engine theory   

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #565 on: April 23, 2013, 08:40:48 PM »
yes domichi,naudin definitly has some diamonds on his website.the steorn device is probably a 2nd law violation but of low power output but it serves well to illustrate the many possibilities.i believe they managed to make a solid state inductive circuit related to the orbo,and then extended that into hot water induction heating for homes,which was probably their original aim and goal while flashing the orbo to public.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #566 on: April 23, 2013, 09:24:54 PM »
im just busy waiting for a chemical to arrive at a local company here which will in all probability boost my device,s power by no less than a factor of 10 or 20 domichi,im almost scared to try it lol.i might be able to pull a maximum of about 30milliampere and 1volt /centimeter2 electrode area out this battery thing.it will flash a couple of l.e.d.s forever,with zero power loss.i actually have no idea of the limitations of this thing or the number of uses for this thing. 

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #567 on: April 23, 2013, 09:30:54 PM »
yes domichi,naudin definitly has some diamonds on his website.the steorn device is probably a 2nd law violation but of low power output but it serves well to illustrate the many possibilities.i believe they managed to make a solid state inductive circuit related to the orbo,and then extended that into hot water induction heating for homes,which was probably their original aim and goal while flashing the orbo to public.
But scam hunter, as here, distroy the project. JL Naudin prove that it is working. Another scam hunter added value.
Now Steorn does not answer any more on the project. Their objective is to produce electricity. Geothermal or sun is a better maner to produce hot water.
A video Yildiz link  http://youtu.be/jLVLvSZ2_BA that another French Forumer send to me (a better view on some parts).

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #568 on: April 24, 2013, 12:17:38 AM »
thats usualy what happens when people display devices to the public with batteries attatched,they get bombed,even if they do give net energy.they will have to give a hell of a lot of net energy to be taken serious.a local lady,rosmary ainslie,is claiming past 10x overunity with her induction coil but i dont know what progress she is making.i have heard that she is busy validating to unknown entity,maybe sasol,the south african petroleum giant.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #569 on: April 24, 2013, 04:41:21 AM »
Since one month I had time to learn a lot from People sharing on Internet. Sharing knowledge and not gossip.
It is right that for you, one month is not enough to learn anything.

I am sure you have, tell me do you know how to use FEMM by now? And what is that "magnetic viscosity" that you talked about?

I guess that all that you learned was new ways to enforce an obvious scam and be disrespectfull to other members.

I am still waiting for all the proof that make the motor legit, still waiting before the man goes to jail :D

 

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