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Author Topic: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor  (Read 649262 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #105 on: April 23, 2010, 08:06:38 PM »
Report of the presentation of the Yildiz magnet motor at 20-04, '10 was held at Delft University.

Thanks to Dick Korf for the following explanation.

Dear friends,

Yes, it was a very interesting demonstration this afternoon.

There were about 40 to 50 attendees.  The demonstration was by Coen Vermeeren of the TU Delft organized.

By a blow with a plastic hammer on a projection unit started and ran right around 2000 rpm.

By using a glove to the axis (try) to stop (to boost resistance) was rated well back but still developed a good couple.

The principle is based mainly on permanent magnet technology whereby magnets consisted neodyn is a very powerful magnetic material and also is maintained over time.

On the shaft is mounted a fan that causes a decent airflow.



How much energy could supply the device is not listed but Han Vriezen, long time colleague who is involved, requires 300 to 400 watts.

 Compared to a weight of 35kg in 1 second the meter is lifted!

After the demonstration (approx. half hours) it has removed all exterior mainly consisted of magnets in aluminum trays were deployed / installed.

Overall, it gave it a fairly simple image where there is no magnetic coils came to pass.

Unfortunately, the rotor is not removed. (A patent is still pending).

 Anyway it was clear that energy was supplied without energy was supplied and this is incredibly unique because it  scientifically just may. Scientifically just Can not. Since it is known, however, be virtually nothing left.

Zero or Free Energy.  Yes, everything should still have time!?

The presentation was led by Duarte, a member of the TU Eindhoven where Han weather cooperates closely.



Last Saturday, the unit demonstrated in Germany where there are 3 professors were present along with Han and Duarte.

There too it was convinced that here there was zero point energy!

The next step is to obtain funding for further optimization and perhaps further upscaling.

I have a very nice touch with the inventor (unfortunately only speak Turkish) and his pal, a Turkish lawyer from Germany, has never been offered that I knew possible funding.

 My goal in this is mainly to further development in the Netherlands to maintain and therefore should take place here and get more grip on the further development.

 You never know where all this is good for.

 I got the impression that there was not opposed.

Further contacts should show this.

Weight 48kg, diameter ca.300mm.

The last picture shows the magnet holders disassembled.

Warm regards,Dick.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #105 on: April 23, 2010, 08:06:38 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #106 on: April 23, 2010, 09:17:47 PM »
I did a spectral analysis of the audio from the demonstration.  It appears that the machine slows down a little bit.  Here is a portion of the spectrogram:

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #107 on: April 23, 2010, 09:31:31 PM »
Check it out.
There is a download link of detail diagram information of the motor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvWxe_RRo8k

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #107 on: April 23, 2010, 09:31:31 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #108 on: April 23, 2010, 09:58:14 PM »
Only part way disassembled. The bottom section is never opened. That is also where the 'Bang' switch is. The bottom section is big enough for 1200mah batteries. Considering how long it rang everything is in the ball park.

Let us see the bottom side. We are assumming symmetry in all sections. But never shown.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #109 on: April 23, 2010, 09:59:22 PM »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #110 on: April 23, 2010, 10:11:09 PM »
I did see the English transelation of the video was a bit short.

So for the few of you who do not speak Dutch:

The man Han Vriezen did gave some comment in Dutch that was not very well transelated he says:

"At this moment i do not think anyting about it, as long as i did not see the last part, we know nothing." 

Then he continues:  "But we do think we understand the working, the principle, we are 95% sure about how it operates

And at last: "I do state , without the last part exposed, it does not proof anything"



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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #111 on: April 23, 2010, 10:21:56 PM »
@zerotensor,

Can you say a little more about your spectral analysis. How exactly does it show slowing down and an what the approximate rpm decrease would that show, if rpm's can be determined at all from this?

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #112 on: April 23, 2010, 10:43:40 PM »
I made a closeup image of the partly dismantled motor, and found a quite descriptive image of the rotor and its basic magnet configuration,
dimly visible behind the inner plastic cover.

This plastic cover is made of separate stripes which are overlapping each other, thus canceling out or dimming the sight of the magnets.
By enhancing the contrasts and other graphical parameters in the image the magnets got quite visible. The first image below is just an
unaltered closeup. The second image is enhanced and altered to highlight the magnet configuration.

It's ten axial rows of magnets placed in a hexagonal pattern with a central magnet in each hexagon. This pattern results in the typical
Perendev displacement setting of 20 degrees. This is a Perendev motor!

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2010, 11:27:10 PM »
@zerotensor,

Can you say a little more about your spectral analysis. How exactly does it show slowing down and an what the approximate rpm decrease would that show, if rpm's can be determined at all from this?

The horizontal axis is time; the vertical axis is frequency.  A number of harmonics are visible as horizontal stripes in the spectrogram when the machine is running.  The duration of the audio clip is approx. 3 minutes.  One can see that the frequency bands are not perfectly horizontal.  Instead, they dip slightly.  This is especially evident when the video transitions from before the airspeed test to after.  The sound produced by the machine gets a little lower in pitch.  The amount of pitch decrease depends on the band in question.  For one prominent overtone, the pitch goes from about 400 Hz to 390 Hz  (-10Hz).  For the lowest frequency band visible, the pitch goes from approx. 202 Hz to 197 Hz (-5Hz).  Determining the RPM decrease depends on the relationship of the overtones measured to the angular frequency of the shaft.  Here's a "back of the envelope"-style calculation:

If we assume that the initial speed of the rotor was about 1200 RPM = 20Hz, then the 200 Hz band would be the 10th overtone.  The corresponding dip in shaft frequency would then be, -5Hz / 10 = -0.5Hz.  This would mean that the RPMs decreased by, 0.5 Hz = 30 RPM.  (~1200 RPM start, ~1970 RPM end).

Regardless of the actual relationship of the frequencies to the shaft speed, I can say for sure that there is a definite and significant drop in the frequencies produced by the machine over time.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2010, 11:27:10 PM »
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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #114 on: April 24, 2010, 12:11:13 AM »
I did a spectral analysis of the audio from the demonstration.  It appears that the machine slows down a little bit.  Here is a portion of the spectrogram:
I can confirm your findings. There is a peak about 403Hz in the beginning. This is the 2.harmonic distortion due to turbulence from the blades. It is 5 blades, so the rpm starts with 2418 rpm. At the end of the test the frequency peak is at 390Hz. This is 2340 rpm - a reduction of 3,3%. If the coils in the machine is used to prevent high rpm, these coils should get warm and have less influence on the rpm - so the rpm should in fact increase during the test. This does not happen.

However, the speed is pretty much constant for the first 100 - 110 seconds after the motor starts, the peak frequency is at 403Hz straight. Then there is a camera shift. From there the speed is pretty much constant 390-392Hz untill till the motor is stopped.

I strongly believe this is a hoax, but one can never be too sure. Hopefully the camcorder that was used have an unlinear clock to control the frames per second - and also the sound (Yes, clock speed change a little with the change in battery charge). New battery in the camcorder after this small break in the movie?

So there is still doubts if this is a hoax or not.....

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« Last Edit: April 24, 2010, 12:34:09 AM by Low-Q »

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #115 on: April 24, 2010, 01:41:11 AM »
Looking near to Yildiz claims in the patent, he writes about an inner stator, the rotor as a hollow cylinder, and an outer stator. In his drawings you can see this principle in fig.11 in fig.17a and very clear in fig.21 and 22. I think that is the crux. There is a certain order of magnets on all of those parts. Using an hollow rotor and within a core stator is genial. It makes as if the rotor runs on magnetic bearings. Fig. 22 shows how this construction works as a tri-force rotor and maybe as a Halbach array. Fig. 21 explains more about the set up of the magnets and the polarization.
His approach in ordering the magnets is for sure very original.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2010, 01:43:02 AM »
The spectral analysis done by zerotensor is a good indicator of the RPM decreasing during the test.  This is in-line with the volt and amp measurements in Table 1 decreasing, from a test of an earlier prototype from Yildiz in 2005, http://www.rexresearch.com/yildiz/yildiz.htm

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2010, 02:02:52 AM »
Except there is a sudden change in rpm at the video break. Before and after the rpm are stable...

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #118 on: April 24, 2010, 02:16:12 AM »
It's ten axial rows of magnets placed in a hexagonal pattern with a central magnet in each hexagon. This pattern results in the typical
Perendev displacement setting of 20 degrees. This is a Perendev motor!

If it's a Perendev, then we are loosing our time. Perendev is a scam and the scammer  was arrested this week.

I hope it's not a Perendev. But i'm starting to think that it's a hoax... If it was genuine, the inventor should already had made a definitive demonstration, lasting for hours, not minutes.

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Re: Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
« Reply #119 on: April 24, 2010, 03:42:07 AM »
If it's a Perendev, then we are loosing our time. Perendev is a scam and the scammer  was arrested this week.

I hope it's not a Perendev. But i'm starting to think that it's a hoax... If it was genuine, the inventor should already had made a definitive demonstration, lasting for hours, not minutes.

Don't be too fast. We can't be so sure what the actual situation around Mike Brady is. That whole arrest thing is about angry investors and the fact that he hasn't delivered on time may be due to various excusable reasons. If delays in delivery are to lead to arrests then those with the Tokamak or the ones with the 5 billion dollar laser fusion delaying the delivery for years if not decades should be arrested way before Mike Brady. The problem the likes of Brady and Yilmaz have is that they dream of fortune from their creation which will never come to life because an OU machine is the most anti-business device known to man. Companies would be out their minds to invest in it even if they convince themselves beyon doubt that it is real. What these people should do is go out of their way to have thousands replicate their machine around the world as promptly as possible. That's the only way they can protect themselves as well as improve their financial state.

 

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