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Author Topic: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?  (Read 10047 times)

Offline altair

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9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« on: March 07, 2010, 10:58:12 PM »
I stumbled recently onto this thread:
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/crash.html

which is again on that old rehashed subject.
But what attracted my attention is the fact that the witnesses dont agree together as to what hit the Pentagon.
Some saw a plane, others saw a missile, some said it was coming steeply, others saw it level, one saw it disappear, one saw the nose explode, or touch the ground, or wings fold forward, some said the noise was loud, others said quiet... etc.  Almost nothing concords in all the testimonies.

Would it be possible that the perpetrators (we know who they are) have the technology to induce a collective hallucination simultaneously in all the people surrounding the event, so they all believe that they saw an aircraft hit the Pentagon, while the charges detonate inside the building.

I know this is very far fetched, but what would be the explanation, then.  We all know that no commercial plane hit the Pentagon.

One thing that is very rarely mentionned is the fact that a E-4B was overflying the Pentagon during the attack, in restricted airspace, and filmed by CNN.
Do they have the capability to generate a hologram that big !   ? ? ?  (Edit:  By this, I mean can they generate a large hologram of an aircraft heading towards the pentagon, all this from the E-4B which is a special advanced electronics and communications flying center.)

« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 04:27:37 AM by altair »

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9-11 Collective hallucination ?
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 12:51:27 AM »
Nothing is off the table...we haven't a clue how far advanced their technology is.

I've already listened to 2 apparently independent sources who reported time traveling and teleportation in the early 60's...so who really knows where the limit is.

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Offline jikwan

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 01:21:38 AM »
my opinion is the govt is trying out a relativley novel idea
one thats usually not used.........
instruct everyone, on pain of death, to give a completly
different story and discription of what happened
some true, another false, another bizzare, another illogical,
another presentation obviously lying etc etc

then the viewing public, after a while gets disinterested
and switches off because the whole thing is a farce
impossible to take seriously

we end up saying "yeah, whatever"

there you go- jobs done!

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 01:21:38 AM »
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 01:28:47 AM »

They just place 4 or 5 red herring witnesses into the mix and bob's yer uncle.

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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 09:12:30 AM »
In the PentaCon movie, witnesses totally disagree, and seem to be sincere, on a vastly different flight path of the airliner into the Pentagon. Although they "saw" it impact, I'm left with a hint of doubt they witnessed the plane penetrating the building face. From that angle, an explosion could happen 100m before the plane arrives, and you'd not know the difference.
Light poles being turned over on the official flight path, contradiction witnesses of the Pentagon police force, that's odd.
I'm left wondering if a visual trick was used. Ask yourself, if you had been told in 1990 that in 2001 we'd be able to visually cloak a jet fighter to look like a large airliner with holo/3D projection technology, would it have sounded plausible? I'm disappointed we don't have large-scale 3D movies yet. Like, a city being built around the audience. Trees popping up. Skyscrapers coming down on us. Big stuff, in 3D projected. The light poles could have been planted or pulled down on the spot, the missile/fighter was off its scheduled path, but was seen by many. Some planted witnesses support the official path. The actual plane was tiny, but was bravely armed with some bombs to make a square hole in the building, yet coming short to match the wingspan of the airliner.
I think an end-of-life airliner should be flown into a puposely placed building being a morph between Pentagon and WTC for integrity. Slowmo. See what wings do upon impact at 500mph. Where they end up. Where engines go. How fire burns.

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Offline altair

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 01:48:46 PM »
Yes cloxxi,
that would be a good test to simulate a crash with an old airliner.
That would surely convince a lot of people that aluminum airplanes can not go right through concrete, or steel-reinforced walls.
One just has to watch videos of the twin towers where the planes' wings slip right through the walls that are made up of steel columns, and then ask himself "Is this possible?"

Offline Cloxxki

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 10:46:08 PM »
If Charlie Sheen really were on the truth side of this argument, he'd commission such a darned building, and such an airliner. I bet the BBC would get a permits to run it. Be it as Brainiac or Top Gear. They can launch space shuttles with a 3 wheeled car as cockpit, for crying out loud. Crashing an airliner into a building would be a boring Top Gear episode.

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Offline jadaro2600

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 03:36:34 AM »
One thing you need to remember is that it is illegal to film the pentagon in almost any capacity.  this includes from a distance, not sure how they know you are filming ..or what have you, but it's fairly common to be warned about it if you are staying in nearby hotels.

I was told passively about this when I was younger (13 or so) and staying in the area.

I remember seeing a computer generated scenario of the supposed events surrounding the 911 attack only a day after it occurred.  Later I though I had actually seen it; now I remember it being CG.

Very strange how this works no?

Offline altair

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »
Jadaro, what is CG ?

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 02:07:07 PM »

I believe he meant 'computer graphic'.

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 01:07:50 PM »
They just place 4 or 5 red herring witnesses into the mix and bob's yer uncle.

Regards...

This statement is very true.  In studies done by the government it is noted that when groups of people are affected by the same situation others are more likely to follow one persons story of that situation even if they did not witness it, but because of there proximity to the situation take the other persons story as being there own.

This is also noted in the military as a symptom of shock. 

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 08:47:03 PM »
my opinion is the govt is trying out a relativley novel idea
one thats usually not used.........
instruct everyone, on pain of death, to give a completly
different story and discription of what happened
some true, another false, another bizzare, another illogical,
another presentation obviously lying etc etc

then the viewing public, after a while gets disinterested
and switches off because the whole thing is a farce
impossible to take seriously

we end up saying "yeah, whatever"

there you go- jobs done!

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 10:21:31 PM »

Quote from Az:

" This statement is very true.  In studies done by the government it is noted that when groups of people are affected by the same situation others are more likely to follow one persons story of that situation even if they did not witness it, but because of there proximity to the situation take the other persons story as being there own.

This is also noted in the military as a symptom of shock. "



One bad apple will always spoil a few others close by.

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 04:30:17 PM »
Nothing is off the table...we haven't a clue how far advanced their technology is.

I've already listened to 2 apparently independent sources who reported time traveling and teleportation in the early 60's...so who really knows where the limit is.

Regards...
We can take an educated guess, and suggest that it's far beyond what the public  is currently aware of, and certainly well beyond present accepted scientific knowledge. We know that the hole in the pentagon was too small to admit the supposed plane. Since the FBI have a strong tendency to confiscate video footage of these events, especially footage which contradicts the official story, we don't know if the 'wreckage' photographed is genuine or planted. We don't know whether the 'witnesses' are bona fide, have been 'approached', threatened, bribed, 'got at' in some way, or are in fact entirely fake intelligence 'plants'.
       The so-called '911 Commission' conclusion is now being admitted as incorrect, false, and coerced in every way, by the same people that were responsible for telling us the 'official whitewash'.
       In the case of the pentagon, my feeling is a missile was involved, or a specialised military vehicle, not a standard plane. I don't think this event was a hologram - nor do I think that the 911 planes were holograms, or that the trade center buildings were zapped by a 'beam'. This is cointelpro nonsense designed to discredit the evidence that a) modifite thermite (thermate) was utilised. b) In no way did the alleged terrorists have the skills to guide those planes, with the sharp twists involved, into the trade center buildings, given their atrocious record at the CIA funded flight schools where they received their so-called 'education'. These are aerodynamic 'miracles' - another word for 'remote control' - so real experts question why bumbling idiots like Islamic terrorist patsies, who foresake their Korans for heavy drinking, bungle their CIA-funded flight classes, attend strip clubs, snort cocaine, threaten to microwave-oven their girlfriend's kittens, etc., could have been capable of such expertise.
       The fact is they weren't capable, and were simply the usual cretinous dupes used by the real terrorists who prefer to remain behind the scenes - as they invariably do. That is why a good percentage of those 'terrorists' on the WTC planes are still alive and walking around today -
but funnily enough, their complaints never seem to get aired in the mainstream media.
       One more thing, I don't think enough attention has been paid to the  background radiation count at the WTC. Check out Ed Ward - he has some good information. There is no reason why micro-nukes should not have been utilised given the evidence, to combine a massive core flash in the basement (supported by witnesses, by the way)  with support beam thermate demolition cutting at angles, so that the beams fell on themselves. You have building seven falling into its own footprint at demolition speed, without having even even been hit by a plane - this is impossible, according to all accounts. These steel chassis-type buildings have NEVER fallen by fire alone - so once again, we're being massively lied to on every count. What's 'news'? only what we uncritically accept.
    Interestingly enough, Marvin Bush was in charge of security. I guess he must have been napping while the support beams were cored out with thermate demolition packs, by smartly-uniformed 'team members'.
       When are we going to get up off our knees, educate ourselves, stand up to this nonsense, recognise where it's all heading and refuse to cooperate before the totalitarian global fascist state, cashless society, microchips and all the rest of it, arrives on our doormat in a nicely-printed, official envelope??
       Count me out. And, by the way, if you live in the UK, or anywhere else, for that matter, love your dogs and pets, and don't want them to die of microchip-induced cancer - just say no. Remember - You're next.
       
   
« Last Edit: April 02, 2010, 06:42:43 PM by silverfish »

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: 9-11 Collective hallucination ?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 04:53:32 PM »

Hey sf...we certainly don't know the half of things.

And we can be reasonably assured that it was a missle...like cruise.

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