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Author Topic: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work  (Read 72086 times)

Offline Paul-R

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LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« on: March 03, 2010, 12:31:34 PM »
I saw this on on JLN Labs. If true, this could be staggering.

"The LaFonte Group has found a way in essence to turn off a permanent magnet in a generator without having to do any work. It has been demonstrated on video, but we are building a fixture that exposes the internal workings in a very simple and graphic way. The only aspect of the design that is a unique requirement is that the stator needs to be of a material that is near zero in it's eddy current potential. A special ferrite is being used at this time that works and even better materials are available. A video will be on YouTube when Mark, a group member has completed the fixture. Self running with no battery or energy storage device will be next step".

What do you think?


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Offline mscoffman

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 03:22:21 PM »
I thought that Quinn the Australian showed the beginnings
of a true ferrite based "magnetic amplifier". Where
"magnetic amplifier" is not meant in the the same
way as the official electronics definition of this phrase.

LaFonte Group was also showed some promising work.
Since LaFonte left the overunity.com web board, we
probably don't know the latest news.

An official version undoubtedly says; "That electret
electric fields can't be shielded and magnetic fields
can't be amplified."

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 01:00:01 PM »
There is a video promised within a few days. If they really can turn off a "N" pole
quickly and without the expenditure of work, then the impact will be massive.
It would be good if the method can be extended to turn a N pole into a S pole.

I will post a link to that video on this thread as soon as it turns up.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2010, 01:20:43 PM by Paul-R »

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 01:35:48 PM »

"LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work"


Turn them off?  I would think that by now, they'd know that turning them UP, not off, is more beneficial.


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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 06:33:51 PM »
"LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work"

Turn them off?  I would think that by now, they'd know that turning them UP, not off, is more beneficial.
If you want to "turn them up", then buy more powerful ones.

The breakthrough will come when the "sticky spot" is removed by turning off the magnet which did good work half a revolution ago, but now is in a N - N position, causing problems.

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Offline mscoffman

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 07:27:47 PM »
If you want to "turn them up", then buy more powerful ones.

The breakthrough will come when the "sticky spot" is removed by turning off the magnet which did good work half a revolution ago, but now is in a N - N position, causing problems.


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Also the breakthrough will come when the "sticky spot" is removed by
turning off the magnet which did good work most of a revolution ago, as
it climbed the gradient from weakest to strongest but the strong ones now
don't want to release it across the sticky spot to the weak ones again...

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 04:43:01 PM »
These videos have just been posted:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LaFonteGroup

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 05:05:30 PM »
Wow and double wow
That is frikin genius  It makes perfect sense and 110% believable. Zero doubt.

There probably will be a slight attraction to the cores leading out, but I fully see the on and off thing being way more done than what is put in.

This IS the Holy Grail for such a generator.   I am just stoked

I looked at the femm anim first, but the live demo below is key to getting what they are doing.

Love it

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Offline penno64

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 08:50:41 PM »
That is pure GENIUS !

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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 10:36:05 PM »
Oh please let this work! Should be pretty easy to turn it into an inputless electric engine. Like the Romanians hint they accidentally made in the 70's or so.

Is that the voice of Batgold in the picture with the proto build in progress?

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 12:05:49 AM »
Being mechanically challenged - I am not seeing how this will be used - sorry

Any description greatly appreciated - anyone

Regards, Penno

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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 12:26:11 AM »
Imagine one magnet on a wheel. One bit of steel, or a magnet, out side the wheel, fixed (stator). The magnet on the wheel will feel the stator, and pull towards it. Just as it arrived at the nearest point (highest speed and torque) the magnetic pull is turned off momentarily. The wheel holds it's speed, the magnet is reset to normal, and again feels the stator, and speeds up some more. Etc.
Pull this off, turn a magnetic attraction on and off at will without great losses, and you can take the battery out of an electric car. Increase the engine's size. Go faster, and still not use any input.
That is the holy grail of searched for magnetic motors as I understand it, being challenged more than just mechanically. The trick is, that manupulating the manetic interaction on the way out, costs at least exactly as much as is to be gained on the way in. If this is designed around, we have pure magnetic power working fonly or us, never against.

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 12:42:48 AM »
Thanks for that Cloxxki,

So, I think you are saying that if a rotor was mechanically connected to a stator that could rotate a few degress to turn on or off the attraction - have I got this right ?

Regards, Penno

Offline Rapadura

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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 02:19:25 AM »
Without work? But it takes work to rotate that thing 90 degrees...


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Re: LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 03:00:09 AM »
But gravity can input that work!

 

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