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Author Topic: New discoveries in Mechanics  (Read 7101 times)

Offline Zhang Yalin

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New discoveries in Mechanics
« on: March 02, 2010, 08:12:38 AM »
New discoveries in Mechanics

All the Newton laws described is about the forces and the movements between two objects.  But the movement of a single object(itself)  is being ignored.
Through the analysis of the ideal experiment of Galileo , We’ll find the truth.
The ball rolled from one edge to another of an cant(U shaped), whether the cant long or short, external power is a setting value (W = GH), but the work done by the ball itself is changed(W=FS) .
The ball will roll forever if it has no resistance, Kinetic energy becomes infinite energy.
It is inspired us the way to make perpetual-motion machine: Don't let reaction force act on the object itself.
Experiment:
Disc A droved by a motor, fix an axis B on the edge of disc A, small disc B can turn around the axis B freely. Small disc B drive the generator C fixed nearby to move.
Paid: EA =E0+E1=1/2m1v12  +1/2m2 v12 
Gain: EC=E1×N=1/2m2 v12  ×N(round)
Net: E1×(N-1),  (m2>2m1 ,income>paid×3)。

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New discoveries in Mechanics
« on: March 02, 2010, 08:12:38 AM »

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 08:44:30 AM »
...
The ball will roll forever if it has no resistance, Kinetic energy becomes infinite energy.
...

"Kinetic energy becomes infinite energy" is a false statement.
You don't need kinetic energy to roll forever.
The speed of a ball is null in its own referential. A state at rest is not distinguishable from a motion at constant speed. You don't need energy to move at constant speed. See relativity.




Offline Zhang Yalin

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 09:08:08 AM »
If anyone can read in Chinese, please visit my blog:
http://zyaling.blogspot.com/

For my English is poor. I can't express my thoughts.

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 09:08:08 AM »
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Offline The Observer

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 05:36:14 PM »
Zhang,

Brilliant Post.
I realized this just the other day... no kidding.

The example that shows current physics is wacky is this.

          ***  You have a job of moving 10 kg boxes from a truck to a loading dock.         ***
          ***  The starting point and ending point are 10 meters apart and of equal height. ***

          Current physics talks about work done on the box with respect to gravity.

          So pick up the box... move it 10 meters... put it down...
          AND YOU HAVE DONE ZERO WORK.
          Do this all day... guess how much work current physics says you do? ... ZERO !

Obviously this is pure B.S.

The question isn't... How much work was done on the box?
It's... How much energy did it take to move the box?

The answer is... quite a bit !

However !!!!!

         A solid object can make the job much easier.

            1. A cart for instance... would help tremendously.
                                                ...  still need to push it 10 meters though.

            2. A U shaped ramp with a track and a skateboard could make it virtually effortless.
                Also, 10 meters... 20 meters... 30 meters of distance would take no extra effort.
                 --- also could use a pendulum for the same effect.

What does it mean... well,
                                             solid objects use energy to hold up objects... again denied by current physics.
                                             and gravity can indeed do work for a common human not aware of 'physics'.

Put it this way... hold a 10 Kg Bag for an hour.
                            it takes energy to to that.

                           But don't tell this to a physicist... they will tell you have done no work!
                                                                                ... which implies you have spent no energy.
                                                                                ... which is about as WRONG as you can get.

Anyways, the bottom line is this.

   
              A potential difference in gravity coupled with a fixed structure allows one to use gravity to do horizontal 'work'.


                                                                       The Observer


             



Offline Rapadura

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2010, 06:37:55 PM »
@The Observer

Are you trying to say that if we have a very, very, very, very, very, very long ramp (see the image bellow),  with a very gentle slope (say only 4 degrees), the acceleration of the ball and the horizontal distance traveled could be used to generate electricity (through piezos in the rolling surface and air core coils alongside the trajectory) sufficient to move the blue elevator at the end of the ramp (see image bellow) until the ball reaches a height higher than the initial height?

I think that is something that deserved to be investigated in practice, and not with preconceived equations and with the "second law"...

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2010, 06:37:55 PM »
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Offline The Observer

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2010, 07:06:04 PM »
Rapa,

Well no, I wasn't saying the piezo thing...
                                                        however your idea would be enhanced by the following phenomenon.

                                       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoOtDBCJ7T0

It's what got me started on realizing that a potential difference in gravity can do horizontal work.

Let me know what you think.

The Observer

Offline Zhang Yalin

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 03:40:57 AM »
Thank God, You, Mr. Observer ,you've knew a little what I mean,
One important thing is: It's not only gravity but any force is limitless.

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 03:40:57 AM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 04:15:53 AM »
Observer,
Sir, sounds like you could throw a few punches in this brawl!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg230911#new

The "Buss" [Omni] is swingin for the bleachers.

Chet
PS
Zhang the topic is right up your alley also!

Offline Omnibus

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 05:08:14 AM »
"Kinetic energy becomes infinite energy" is a false statement.
You don't need kinetic energy to roll forever.
The speed of a ball is null in its own referential. A state at rest is not distinguishable from a motion at constant speed. You don't need energy to move at constant speed. See relativity.

That's crap.

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 05:08:14 AM »
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Offline f_dyne

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Re: New discoveries in Mechanics
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 05:39:25 PM »
Zhang,

Brilliant Post.
I realized this just the other day... no kidding.

The example that shows current physics is wacky is this.

          ***  You have a job of moving 10 kg boxes from a truck to a loading dock.         ***
          ***  The starting point and ending point are 10 meters apart and of equal height. ***

          Current physics talks about work done on the box with respect to gravity.

          So pick up the box... move it 10 meters... put it down...
          AND YOU HAVE DONE ZERO WORK.
          Do this all day... guess how much work current physics says you do? ... ZERO !

Obviously this is pure B.S.

The question isn't... How much work was done on the box?
It's... How much A did it take to move the box?

The answer is... quite a bit !

.............
.............


                                                                       The Observer


           


Hi Observer,

I just thought about your kind of observations some time ago, thinking why an helicopter must use power for hovering.
I think the answer is: the human muscles are driven by nervous system pulses which then become heat. So it works like an integrator, for the purpose of gaining control on the muscle position; in this (worst) case it converts power to mantain static gravitational energy on the weight.
The energy system proposed works as long as it doesn't bleed energy, transferring the energy in ordered (kinetic) or disordered (heat) manner. (There are more options of course, but I think we cover the case examinated, here)

F_dyne

 

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