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Author Topic: Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin  (Read 246618 times)

Magluvin

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delboy

I see the mercury(conducting liquid) contactor, electrical controllers, is this the best way to go?
seems unhealthy.

Thanks

Magsluvinit

Goat

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Hi all;

I love your enthusiasm and all but before getting too carried away on tangents why do we not try to understand what Tito is saying here in the post he referred to first before going to other NT patents:

Sir, please bear with my english, i`m not  used to speak for it,
here is what i have done:
                                            just make a little modification ofcourse, i`ve made three parallel coil to the one that become high voltage and put a 3 collector perpendicular to that high voltage and thats it just like a tranformer, it gives unlimited energy and it is very controllable, and by dumping the one collector to the capacitor it becomes self powered, just a matter of on and off relay or reed relay, dont forget to use zener diode at least 3v.

be very carefull, you can accidentally make an uncontrollable voltage that look like a tesla coil.
its fun but very dangerous. :o :o :o

try to make coil combination. there is a little secret here so you just try to discover it ,its very fun but dont forget the danger!!!!!!!!

I love everybody so be carefull anyone.

"if power comes from coil then of course you can power everything just it depends on the design"
do you know that we can also make an efficient electrolysis from this, belive me sir just make a try!!!!!!

Thank you,

Tito L. Oracion (Philippines)

I think he just gave us a big clue on how he discovered how to make it better (as in self runner) but for me it still has some unknowns like the configuration and values of the coils...I'm more of a visual type and can't seem to place the components in my mind....can anyone here transfer his quote into a schematic maybe?

Regards,
Paul

ramset

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Mr Tito,
I owe you an apology!
please excuse me for not paying attention!

I should have seen it in your honest face.

See-> ;D

How could I have been so "Blind"?

Chet
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and Mags
Quote;
We dont have to tune anything to a particular freq,
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Most definately a halla-freakin-luyah moment!=.]
[others of late have indicated the same]
some might be easier to work with and make more sense
but its not "the grain of sand at the beach"
Its all in the "technique"[the Romance]
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 04:46:40 PM by ramset »

Magluvin

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I agree, Teets took a lot of abuse and kept on smiling.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and laughing  HAHAHAHAHAHA   ;D

And hinting     ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

tito does deserve some respect.  He is the man!  And delboy,  He is the boy!!   lol

Mags

Magluvin

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Goat, good find.  But it is a little vague.

but it all adds to the whole and is now believed to be accurate.


mags

Tito L. Oracion

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I read your posts in year 2008 and all I can say is that you missed the point. You used the transformer with core and you forget the input inductivity!
All you could do is to put the secondary of that transformer (220/24) as input inductivity and wound new one air core for output! That's the way  it should be.
But again it's not the way to pick up energy from first step of amplification. It should be done in second stage, on one side of secondary should be connected secondary capacity and on the other should be connected receiver by adding one wire connected receiver like on picture.

hi delivery boy  ;D  joke

Everything is possible cause i made it to work as you said it is not the way it should be right?, but you are correct in other way there are a lot of ways actually as long as you make it amplify energy its ok.  :)

You almost and willing to answers everything and i salute you for that sir your great.  ;)

actually this topic is my first discovery of free energy and it seems that many are contented, then i am happy for them too ok, hope they can scrutinized it safely and fun  ;D

My latest discovery in this field just this December is a receiver of any electrical impulse of an unknown origin and that is what i am is amplifying and that is more better actually.


The floor is now yours

goodluck!  ;D

God bless  ;D
noicaro l. otit   (see everything is possible)  ;D  ;D  ;D

Tito L. Oracion

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I agree, Teets took a lot of abuse and kept on smiling.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and laughing  HAHAHAHAHAHA   ;D

And hinting     ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

tito does deserve some respect.  He is the man!  And delboy,  He is the boy!!   lol

Mags

No!  :o  He is the MAGS !   ;D   ;D   ;D

Tito L. Oracion

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Mr Tito,
I owe you an apology!
please excuse me for not paying attention!

I should have seen it in your honest face.

See-> ;D

How could I have been so "Blind"?

Chet
Ps
and Mags
Quote;
We dont have to tune anything to a particular freq,
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Most definately a halla-freakin-luyah moment!=.]
[others of late have indicated the same]
some might be easier to work with and make more sense
but its not "the grain of sand at the beach"
Its all in the "technique"[the Romance]

ooooh, you make me cry  :'(

i love you already oooooh  :'(


hahahhahhahahhaahhaahhahahahhahhaha  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

take care friend  ;)

you #@$$%^*^&(&*(*()  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Tito L. Oracion

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Where is forest is tarzan with him? hahahahahhah  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

hows the jungle? hahahhahahhahaha  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

ramset

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Tito
I hope your gonna stick around!
I think we're gonna build stuff, Mags is out buying Duct tape, knitting needles and a few other goodies at "Rat Shack"
It is good to laugh buddy, And remember the offer to wash your car for the refrigerator
power secret still stands!

Chet

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hahahahhahahha  ;D  ;D  ;D

ok! within this month i 'll promise and take note of it SERIOUSLY.

I WILL GIVE TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE WORLD ONE OF MY PREVIOUS FREE ENERGY DESIGN OK?

IS THAT OK TO ALL OF YOU?

a combination of battery caps and coil, a very very simple what i always say.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF MANKIND!
« Last Edit: March 02, 2010, 04:25:09 AM by Tito L. Oracion »

ramset

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AS long as you keep smiling and stick around buddy!

Chet

baroutologos

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Hello here,

now i saw this new thread. You told and done it mag! :)

So, it all boils down with BEMF? Pulsing a coil of high inductunce and capturing the kick-back in low inductunce or just the opposite ??? confused  ???
What about resonance? How this is connected with kapanadze technology?

@Tito,

The basic http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5975.15 diagram is the proof of concept? I got it well?

one interesting thing i read in the 2008 thread and give me a laughter is the circuit http://books.google.com/books?id=0RmkmrFxHM0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Actually i have made it a background picture in one of my folders and it has been suggested by King, extracted from an electrostatic patent. I have build it atcually to see if my Bedini SSG outputs more with that circuit, but no such luck.
By the way this circuit works well.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2010, 07:45:17 AM by baroutologos »

baroutologos

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2 words for ya Teets,  Coaxial Cable

magluvin  keep it coming   =]

Why coaxial cable mags? It seems ideal for biffilar settings...

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Standard ignition coil just overload the source! Tesla's design does not do that! You must understand this, it is very important.
Look at circuit. Controler have 2 things to do, make and break contact! That is why it should be as close to ideal switch as possible.
On make it discharges condenser to primary and you have HV oscillation in secondary and charges input inductivity (two currents flow) but here is the point „it doesn't have to go to max source current to give HV like in standard ignition coil“.
On break it discharges input inductivity and charges condenser.
Here is example.
When you calculate if we have switch running 100Hz and input inductivity have inductanse L=0,5H and resistance R=5 Ohms than it gives as standard RL circuit connected to battery. For that frequency it gives us Q=62. That means max voltage on capacitor will be 12*62=744 volts if baterry is 12V and resonance is maintained.
If switch is running 100Hz that means period ON is 5ms and also perion OFF is 5ms. For 5ms ON it gives that current will rise
i=(E/R)*(1-exp(-R*t/L)) where t=5ms
when we calculate it gives only 0,117 A
If we speed up controller for say now we have 200Hz swiching that gives more bigger Q=125 , more bigger voltage Uc=1500 and less current from source.
i=(E/R)*(1-exp(-R*t/L)) where t=2,5ms
when we calculate it gives only 0,059A
Now compare that current to todays standard ignition coil. That is why they did not understand what for is input inductivity, and todays design is that source is directly connected to primary (low resistance) and high peak of current flow from source.
Current in input inductivity is not step rising, as soon as controller break it is disharged in capacitor in form of HV, and process starts again.
We only have to choose proper input inductivity and primary capacity so that when controller runs resonance is achieved. That is beauty of Tesla design!
NO OVERLOAD ON SOURCE AND YET YOU HAVE HV/HF.