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Author Topic: Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin  (Read 249936 times)

Magluvin

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Maybe Tito can shed some light on that.
He sent me a picture from his vacation..  Im sure he will help us when he gets back.  =]

Mags








baroutologos

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Hahahaa! Nice pic! Mag you really funny!

Magluvin

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Im just relaxing a bit from experimenting. Letting some thing soak in.  I get burned out for a couple days and back at it.  But from what im seeing, invest in copper wire while ya can.  lol  Sounds crazy, but its gold later on.

Mags

baroutologos

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Thanks for the tip mag! I think i am gonna buy Copper wire stocks! :):)

Magluvin

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Actually having the wire in hand would be more trustworthy.
None of that Sell Mortimer Sell.  That will put you in the poor house if you let someone else do it for you. ;]
Mags

ramset

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Mags
You got a post card, I'm jealous!
Very Handsome family Tito has there!
Shouldn't the little girl be Green?
Well maybe just a relative!

You mention Gold   I always wonder about gold plating a "Collector"
For added harvesting?
If you wanna try this PM me and I'll send you a "KIT"
Open also to any other serious experimenters here!

If nothing else we could gold plate one of Tito's teeth!

Chet

delboy

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Shrimps and whips!  ;D

Lets people get engineering and calculate some rough figures about Tesla's high inductunce. I have the question how much is the high inductunce anyway?

resonant frequency: Because the L2 coil that must run on resonance for best results is a small coil (Fig2), i assume it will have a natural resonant frequency of some 600Khz. Using a Tesla coil calculator with the following data:

L2 coil diameter: 5 inch
Length: 10 inch
wire: 24awg
we have some 450 turns with an inductunce of 11m H with a natural freq of 600Khz

I proceed. if the primary is:
L1 diamter : 5 inch, 4 turns and 0.25 inch diameter will give some 5uH or less inductunce.
This will require a 14-15 nF capacitor to be charged 200 times per sec.

And that will be all of Baroutologos' calculations based on the Ozone patent :) :) :)
Now you tell me where the OU comes into the picture
High inductance for max 200 makes/breaks will be any value bigger than 200mH, for example you take 500mH (secondar from some transformator). Now combining that value with your 200 makes/breaks gives the value of primary condenser of 1uF to 2uF !
And why is your L2 so small? Try bigger diameter and lower frequency, for example 50 inch diameter and 100kHz !?
OU comes into the picture when you get enogh high V/m on output at not too high frequency! That way energy will not be radiated in space, and you can pick up with one-wire receiver as much as there is reactive energy ;)

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baroutologos

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Something irrelevant somewhat to this thread... but interesting to dell boy. :)

Today i was reviewing a book i purchased about Tesla and it suggested the patent 1,119,732 as the one used for energy transfer via electric ripples in earth at long distances plus some other arcane uses the author suggested :)

I printed that patent and studied with a new eye, after reading Colorado Spring notes.
I dare to say this patent, being of the last ones Tesla issued, includes the essence of Colorado Spring notes.

It has all the methodology.
*Tight inductive coupling between a large radius primary/secondary for increased efficiency,
*on top of that an almost unclouped and free oscillating coil (xtra coil may be said) that has .
*a hood for dealing with sparks,
*an elevated terminal (since Tesla discovered the one terminal capacitance of his coils is raised by 10% per foot)
*top terminal with the small hemispheres closely placed for increaseing one terminal capacitance.

Notein the final design, Tesla suggests a small radius xtra coil for free oscillations and a large radius secondary (tightly coupled with primary) for good efficiency i guess.

I have not seen anyone building such Tesla coil, even in miniaturization.
I guess i should give it a go ;)

@Tito,

I suppose you are finilizing the promised device... right?

forest

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Is this a WHIP ?  ::)

forest

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I have a question. We all know what happen when capacitor discharge into low self-induction coil.
But what would happen if capacitor discharge into high -self-induction coil saturated by high amperage DC current ? And what would be if that discharge is unidirectional and without  oscillations ?

baroutologos

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Hey forest. Nice pic there. Actually i have done it poster on my room's wall :)

By the way, Tesla's patent of electrical conversion and distribution deals with thsese kind of issues, as discharging a condenser to various inductnce coils.

From my own experiments i have found out that if the condenser is charged in relatively low voltage and coil is high inductunce (e.g. the 220 volts of my transformer of 1,7 H) then the oscillations tend to be quite minimum till the power is dissipated to resistance.

If you apply a load to transformer's secondary, then it will behave as a good performance conversion unit (as Tesla patent claims) perhaps without any oscillation (i have not a scope i do not know for sure but more or less this is the case).
Now, if the applied voltage pressure to the cap is high and the coil low inductunce, the formulation of oscillations is inevitable, unless you apply high resistance to ring them down quickly. (that means loss)
If in that case apply a load to transformer second winding again, the outptu maybe poor due to high frequency of oscillations.

Actually in my experiments (see energetic forum my posts) for this case i used a high frequency toroid transformer and the high frequency oscillsations of the primary easily are passed as high frequency oscilations to secondary. ;)

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Now i had the idea, since the energy stored in an inductor is proportional to the square of the current (not time current flows) that by charging a cap to high voltage will create in the conductor high current and consequently free energy...
All experimenting suggests that this not gonna happen :(  The cap develops only such current density its energy in relation to inductor permits.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2010, 10:17:14 AM by baroutologos »

Magluvin

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Sorry Guys,  Ill be back on track in a day or so.  Been working.

Mags

Tito L. Oracion

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hi everyone good day  :(

i don't know how to start it, but here is what happen yesterday as i am finalizing my work, my elder brother ask me what i am is doing, and i said to him that I'm trying to raise and beg some donations on some people in overunity.com and i am giving this free energy project to them. And  here is what he said "What!, are you out of your mind! don't you know that oil companies are serious killers! what if you got killed?!, who will fed you children, me?! don't do that! and do not communicate to people you don't know again!".

Then he smash every thing and destroy all the info i made. i got mad at him but i made to think to his side and i felt that he is right, he is just very concern for my family.

And now, i am here and very ashamed to all of you, but i have to face it because i made a promise, and now i will accept anything you will say to me whether it is good or bad, and probably i expect more bad comment and that is okay i understand.   

i really want to release my free energy to get some donation money cause my mother needs some money for her dialysis three times a week, but now i feel a lot of conflict, and now i decided to follow my brother first.

maybe this is really is my last post.

To all of you there I'm really really sorry, i don't expect this.  :(

please continue, ZPE is true.

TIP1: Try to kick a bike just for every 3 seconds, and it will give you a lot of rotation and if you have a lot of magnet and coils of course it will give you an excess energy, all you need here is a timed kicker, and of course lubrication and weight plays a major role in this setup.   

Tip2: discharge a fully charge capacitor in a very thick wire with tail, this will give you an excess energy and this is the secret!. tail = extra coil.

Goodbye friend, i will not anymore go back here.

and thank you very very much.

@ sir otto, when you say about the ceramic cap of 470pf, there i believe and convinced  that you really know the secret. so long fell. 

Hope you understand.

Goodbye and God bless
otits L. noicaro   ;D

Magluvin

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Hey Tito
no problem. I imagine it to be a tough call if I were in your situation.

Soo  you didnt like the pi9ctures I made for you?  =]

Take Care 

Mags