Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets  (Read 947368 times)

PhysicsProfessor

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1950 on: January 12, 2011, 07:34:32 AM »
What Tek scope do you have? I think all the Tek DSOs can do at least the trace multiplication, and most can do at least one live integral; the higher end ones can do 4 live integrals at once.


Right now I have a Tektronix 2230 DSO.  If you can explain how to do trace multiplication, that would be very helpful -- and if it can do a live integral that would awesome. 

Apology accepted Quark2. 

I have provided an answer  to my question which was also posed at overunityresearch.com (someone had the gumption to reply to my question over there):
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=538.msg9035#msg9035

Here is part of my reply:
Quote
That is, a changing magnetic field is generating an electric field (around the coil is the direction of E in this case) -- even though at point A there is NO magnetic field detected! 

What I am trying to emphasize is that a changing magnetic field will generate an electric field even in a region of space in which the magnetic field is itself ZERO.

  The physics texts that I've seen emphasize that a changing B field produces an electric field... but I would like to see the text that admits that his can happen even in a region of space in which the magnetic field is itself ZERO.
[/b]

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1951 on: January 12, 2011, 09:43:18 AM »
Right now I have a Tektronix 2230 DSO.  If you can explain how to do trace multiplication, that would be very helpful -- and if it can do a live integral that would awesome. 

Apology accepted Quark2. 

I have provided an answer  to my question which was also posed at overunityresearch.com (someone had the gumption to reply to my question over there):
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=538.msg9035#msg9035

Here is part of my reply:[/b]
That is, a changing magnetic field is generating an electric field (around the coil is the direction of E in this case) -- even though at point A there is NO magnetic field detected!

What I am trying to emphasize is that a changing magnetic field will generate an electric field even in a region of space in which the magnetic field is itself ZERO.

The physics texts that I've seen emphasize that a changing B field produces an electric field... but I would like to see the text that admits that his can happen even in a region of space in which the magnetic field is itself ZERO.

The answer to that puzzle is simple and the basis for two of the best free energy devices ever built.

My experiment would have taught you something about this as well but added a lesson in electron sea, perpetual motion and how to trap a vacuum space in a toroid without voltage or current using nothing but a toroid and copper wire. So simple and irrefutable yet so dynamic. That is elegance to an experimentalist. (Marinov)

Quarks have been split in two and are exchanging between the poles of the magnetic field. That space surrounding the B field moved since there is no empty space. When you expand or contract the energy in the toroid, you move everything around it due to the smaller than an electron particle size present. AB effect and cavitation.

Those quarks divided by two or more are now the size that can interact with and shield the aether. Otherwise, the quarkettes (what I call them) or pieces of quarks or aether (near neutral charge) slip between the electrons and atoms like rain through a net.

When Einstein dismissed professor Miller's (Ashland Oregon) aether drift experiments to protect his own flawed relativity theory, he screwed up a whole bunch of stuff including your book brains.

I'll try again...

While the B field flux lines (quarks split in smaller parts) are not going out to your hall sensor, the space around the coil and sensor are moving. That space is striking the hall IC generates voltage. I don't see the problem here. Since electricity is mass to atomic energy conversion, you have the illusion that the field is static but aether is moving.

What would happen if instead of a spinning light spectrometer you used a Hall IC and replicated Millers experiments? That would be the first experiment I would design to once again prove the presence of Aether particles.

You must think that the space between the flux lines and hall IC is empty space? TheBuzz wrote about this in the post through .99 which was actually to you. There is no empty space - that would be impossible.


Anyway...

Apparently I thought better or noticed my error and deleted that part of my post shortly after writing it. A  mistake is failure to correct an error thus I have not made one.

Occam's law guides my thinking. I still get by with a 20mhz analog scope I bought 20 years ago. I have no experience that would be helpful for your measurement.

Being resourceful, I would instead build a self running generator and measure the excess energy beyond that which is required to sustain itself. That is really all that matters in the end and if the claims are true, that should be possible. Get that far and you will have no problem finding someone with the right gear to measure it. When it comes to overunity, that separates truth from bullshit rather decisively. Other than that, no clue.

As previously stated - I am unable to view OUR due to an insecure pirahna-maximus named POYNT99 banning me. How they burn people at the stake is all that has changed in 500 years, for those subversive of dogma.

When Grumpy and .99 could not free their thought from dogma or use their minds, or allow me to use mine, they banned me to make sure their common thought agreement bullshit is not tarnished by reality.

That's OK, they have nothing to offer and this is evidenced by the fact neither has ever built anything to my recollection in all these years. They are in the intel gathering business and it is a business that has an obvious putrid appearance.

The other day TheBuzz wrote a post to .99 but it was actually written to physicsProfessor. TheBuzz felt that it if he wrote it directly to you, you might become defensive and feel baited. The post was designed to open up your mind so that a new idea could be formed through the destruction of the old.  Since .99 is an intellectual write off, TheBuzz used him the way any good master troll would.

You may want to go back and read it again. The answer was given there before we started as well. Ironically, by answering my question, you would have answered your own.


There is much more but it was all written for you to try and open your mind.

                                                                   ******
"The infant is born with a brain filled to capacity  with only the love and fear of what we needed then. Struggling to be more than what we were when we were born, and even before we were born.

We cried out for our mother’s warmth and milk and playful smile to fight the boredom of waiting to become more than what we were. That was love.

We wanted our mothers to shelter us from the wind and rain and protect us from insects and reptiles that crawl about wanting what out mothers gave us. That was fear.

As we grew we wanted more. The more we received, the more we desired. Our growth was squared by our desires and divided by our fears. That was, is, and will always be the evolution of life.
 
To create those new thoughts from the thoughts that exist through exclusion within that filled space of our brain, something must be consumed or moved or converted. Something must fall out of that space only to be lost and forgotten. The new seed of thoughts of love and fear grow upon the rotted corpses of the old thoughts of love and fear. We exist where we are including and excluding spaces, struggling to create potential to grow into."

                                                                    ******

I knew you would use the term "field" which describes nothing but a magical idea. Sadly, you still do and cannot seem to even see that there must be something deeper. What is a field physically made of? You cannot have action at a distance without a physical connection or exchange of energy (MASS/MATTER).

We are taught that a brain is filled with empty neurons when we are born but I disagree. In order to learn something new, something old must be lost. Some people are a little too in love with their own thoughts to learn something new but their parents had to pay so much money for those beliefs. That is not knowledge.

Once I saw the dogma of academics, I never gave the distasteful doctrine of mind control another thought. It only reinforces the value of that moment a physics professor cited 2nd law to me 35 years ago. If you don't understand that particles smaller than electrons exist even though your experiment proves it, I can't fix that.

You are programmed in school that atoms and particles come in nice neat little packages of uniform size and exist unto themselves. That is not the case, all matter in the universe is connected and I spent years proving it. The arc of the covenant research proved that theory. There is no such thing as a random number or.. God does not play dice with the universe - same thing.

Everything you need to know, I posted before we started. It would have been baiting you had I not done that. I kept my agreement, did you? No. Your fear was greater than your love.

All emotions are based in love or fear. Pick one that serves you. I didn't spend two days writing and a few days getting pummeled by mouth breathers at OUR out of fear.

Here is what I will apologize for:
I quickly skimmed through your toroid quiz and assumed you were trying to qualify me by determining if I understood some of the more advanced coil designs such as he rodin coil and the AB effect associated.

I didn't realize your question was about basic magnetics. Why don't you have a look at Marinov's perpetual mobile. He shows you how to put that space around the magnet in perpetual motion. That should really puzzle you. Marinov's whole experiment was about why is that field present there when it should not be. BTW - His experiment was peer review and I have uploaded it here and elsewhere.

The experiments I would have given you would have taken you there. I truly don't think you are able to understand what lies outside a book. Science is not monkey see, monkey do Professor - that is academia.

Quarktoo - 8th grade Emeritus

Ed. Leedscalnin 6th grade Emeritus

Ed also figured out the concept of the perpetual field and how to spin that space outside the toroid in perpetual motion at coral castle.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 01:01:29 PM by quarktoo »

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1952 on: January 12, 2011, 12:13:45 PM »
                     

oops

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1953 on: January 12, 2011, 12:38:36 PM »
Now you want to monitor voltage across the load on one channel and the voltage DROP across a low-value current-viewing resistor on the other channel. Use a value like 0.1 Ohm, and be careful about your ground (common) probe hookups.

You probably know more about this than me but I always use 4 to 8 resistors in parallel, measure across 1 of them and then multiply times the number of resistors in a pulsed circuit.

I don't think 1 resistor is going to do a precise enough job of phasing the current to voltage to tell the difference between COP <1 and COP >280.   ;D

sigma16

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1954 on: January 13, 2011, 12:42:18 AM »
I see the "Troll Emeritus Maximus" aka "Quarktoo" is still at it, blabbering about mass to energy conversion, all-the-while never explaining it because he doesn't really understand it and therefore can never actual use it.

Where is the mass to energy conversion in the AVEC, TPU, A-Tree, and Kapanadze Device? 

While you prepare your well-thought, but hopelessly BS'd to death answer, I'll get out the ol' "silver platter"...

Edit: added A-Tree
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 01:19:07 AM by sigma16 »

ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8073
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1955 on: January 13, 2011, 01:08:41 AM »




                     AAHHHhhhhh.................
                       Let the games begin
                                    ;D

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1956 on: January 13, 2011, 02:06:19 AM »
You probably know more about this than me but I always use 4 to 8 resistors in parallel, measure across 1 of them and then multiply times the number of resistors in a pulsed circuit.

I don't think 1 resistor is going to do a precise enough job of phasing the current to voltage to tell the difference between COP <1 and COP >280.   ;D
If you can explain to me how to hook 8 resistors up in parallel and then measure across _just one of them_, with a 20 MHz scope, I'd appreciate it.

You have in the past 2 pages made claims about making a self-running device, OU and whatnot. I say you cannot do it. So prove me wrong by showing something, like measurements, on some device that you have actually made using your theories, er, conjectures.

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1957 on: January 13, 2011, 02:12:15 AM »
Right now I have a Tektronix 2230 DSO.  If you can explain how to do trace multiplication, that would be very helpful -- and if it can do a live integral that would awesome. 

Hah... proved me wrong about early Tek DSOs... see, it's easy... when I'm actually wrong, that is !

The Tek 2230 can't do trace math except the usual addition and chopping. It is "barely" a DSO at all. But if it has the appropriate GPIB or serial interface option, you can run Tektronix's "WaveStar" software and do the math on stored traces in there. But it sounds like you are going to have to do it using the manual method I outlined above. It's really not too hard. At least the 2230 has cursors, so you can get precise values to work with !!

PhysicsProfessor

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1958 on: January 13, 2011, 04:27:20 AM »
Hah... proved me wrong about early Tek DSOs... see, it's easy... when I'm actually wrong, that is !

The Tek 2230 can't do trace math except the usual addition and chopping. It is "barely" a DSO at all. But if it has the appropriate GPIB or serial interface option, you can run Tektronix's "WaveStar" software and do the math on stored traces in there. But it sounds like you are going to have to do it using the manual method I outlined above. It's really not too hard. At least the 2230 has cursors, so you can get precise values to work with !!

I also have available a Tektronix 3032 (300 MHz bandwidth)... How about that?


XS-NRG

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 413
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1959 on: January 13, 2011, 05:21:16 AM »
I also have available a Tektronix 3032 (300 MHz bandwidth)... How about that?


Good! now you need to learn how to use it just like your buddy Lawrence the Clown.

XS-NRG

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 413
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1960 on: January 13, 2011, 05:27:00 AM »

Where is the mass to energy conversion in the AVEC, TPU, A-Tree, and Kapanadze Device? 


This is off topic Clown.
We are discussing the Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets here.
And besides, i can guarantee that you wont need any "silver platter" the only thing you need is your mouth/keybord.

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1961 on: January 13, 2011, 06:36:33 AM »
If you can explain to me how to hook 8 resistors up in parallel and then measure across _just one of them_, with a 20 MHz scope, I'd appreciate it.

You have in the past 2 pages made claims about making a self-running device, OU and whatnot. I say you cannot do it. So prove me wrong by showing something, like measurements, on some device that you have actually made using your theories, er, conjectures.

Game on

Are you serious? It is how people have been doing true RMS current readings since it has been around unless I really missed something a long time ago. I don't think so. Doesn't your fancy scope measure current?

Look at the schematic - Half the current is free to flow through the other resistor which you are not measuring across - Hence the need to multiply times the number of resistors. Read your own post.

We are talking about a pulsed circuit and phase relationship between voltage and current. The higher the number of resistors the more phased the pulse being measured since the phase relationship error is divided amongst the multiple resistors.

The measurement is multiplied times the number of resistors and the net result is a division of the error which is how the accuracy is obtained.

As for demonstrating OU... Son I was posting here when this place started and working on OU 35 years ago. I tell people don't publicly demonstrate, share information until millions of people know the truth. Sigma16 told me on a forum I set up to sort out the spooks and players a few years ago the same thing. Sigma16 being a spook, has good advice in that regard at least.

You see it only takes one white crow to prove all crows are not black. Academia states all crows are black. Until there are millions of white crows in cages ready to be released when someone makes the claim all crows are black, the media will always find a idiot academic tool to say all crows are black and OU is nonsense and impossible.

If you demonstrate a white crow, you get some real nasty attention. That came from a relative that is an international patent attorney that works with cutting edge stuff that fall under the corrupt national security laws. Also from Grumpy on multiple times. Many OU inventors, etc.

Then some company manufactures what you invented.

Example -  Nobody noticed that piezo injectors are being used in Europe in diesel truck engines. So you suppose they could switch over to water fuel real quick if they had to. Meyer and Puharich. Hidden in plain sight from what it looks like to me.

IF I built a white crow, I would educate you as to how to build your own white crows but I'll keep mine in a cage IF I even possess one, which I don't and would not admit it if I did. I was not born yesterday.

Since Sigma16 has a silver platter he won't be needing, why don't you have a seat on it.  :)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 10:42:30 AM by quarktoo »

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1962 on: January 13, 2011, 07:25:57 AM »
I see the "Troll Emeritus Maximus" aka "Quarktoo" is still at it, blabbering about mass to energy conversion, all-the-while never explaining it because he doesn't really understand it and therefore can never actual use it.

Where is the mass to energy conversion in the AVEC, TPU, A-Tree, and Kapanadze Device? 

While you prepare your well-thought, but hopelessly BS'd to death answer, I'll get out the ol' "silver platter"...

Edit: added A-Tree

Sigma16,

I pointed out where the acceleration was taking place on one of your devices using the silver wire a long time ago. The problem with air core is, they leave a RF signature that is easy to spot. Accident?

On a personal note – I didn’t understand what you meant by twisting fields on the Hubbard coil. Tesla and anyone that knows something about the subject refer to them as “rotating magnetic fields” since the series parallel inductors can only come up one at a time.

Perhaps you can better explain measuring the drop across a resistor to TinsleKoala. In exchange I will speak to TheBuzz about getting you off the DAMMED list - that is not good.

Lastly, the mass is not actually fully converted to energy and I know that. I use that with E=MC2 so as to not confuse and draw fire from smarty pants academics. E-MC2 just takes you down to something between a quark and matter but the quark is self healing in that it borrows from the river of aether particles to reform. One could liken it to the sun-ozone-cycle and the aether as a spare parts warehouse.

The Aether flows about as fast as you can run (15 KMH) in the direction of the constellation Leo from what I recall from the work of Miller.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 08:37:03 AM by quarktoo »

quarktoo

  • Guest
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1963 on: January 13, 2011, 12:56:08 PM »
This guy nails it. Must see video for all you college grads that believe in fields and particles that come in nice neat little packages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y5bXdx5UrE

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets
« Reply #1964 on: January 13, 2011, 01:43:47 PM »
@quark2: You have been building overunity devices for thirtyfive years....and you are still trolling here. I laugh at you, Pops....

Your diagram shows that you are measuring across your total resistance, which is given by the well-known formula for resistors in parallel.

No oscilloscope that I know of measures current, no matter how fancy they are. Every oscilloscope in the world measures voltage vs. time, and there are various ways of generating a voltage signal that correlates with a current being measured -- monitoring the voltage drop across a current-viewing resistor USING OHM's LAW and CONVENTIONAL "electronics 101" -- is one such way, and using a non-contact combined Hall-effect and transformer type probe is another.

Your miserable excuses for not demonstrating what you claim are the usual laughable and non-credible excuses. Go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG...if you dare.