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Author Topic: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes  (Read 4466 times)

Offline Gregory

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Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« on: March 29, 2006, 06:51:49 PM »
Please Jason or Darklight, or sombody.

Can you help me to visualize the magnetic lines of force of these magnet shapes & orientation in 2 dimensions, one by one, please?

I don?t know how to use a simulation software.

I built a simple motor in the past month, and tested it weeks before.
It doesn?t work, because I used not the right magnets, and a needed distance is missing. And with the magnets I already have It?s impossible to solve the problem.
So, I decided to design, and order new magnets, what I need, and build a new device, wich can be operate, i think.
Maybe I order special shaped magnets, and I should like to see what?s the difference in the field of the various basic shapes.
I think not the shapes the key to a working motor, but it can be a useful improvement, so why I don?t use them, when it?s possible?

I hope someone helps me.

See the attached picture. Thanks.


Regards, Greg

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2006, 06:59:11 PM »
Greg, can you show a sketch of the motor you're building?

Offline Gregory

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Re: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2006, 07:45:36 PM »
Something similar to the Perendev design, but with only one flywheel geometry, and different shaped magnets. I don't want to give any chanche to the rotor, so I decided to create a way, where in every position the acting magnets are repulse the rotor through the sticky point, and after again, and again, indefinitely...

I don't want to show you at the moment, because now it's exist only on paper. But don't fear... Now, I like to be mysterious, and don't want to allow others to discuss my half-completed design, before I don't tested myself properly. After I tested myself, we can discuss about.
But first I want to complete the device in the next 2 months, and after show you a video (and sketch)  while it works / unworks.
Please wait, and sorry for my suspense, i will return later. Thanks.

Greg

Offline DarkLight

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Re: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2006, 08:39:07 PM »
Magnetic force appears only when 2 magnets interract with each other.  You need diagram of the system of magnets, not of 1 magnet standing alone
Here is the link to free (trial) program that I use   

http://www.vizimag.com/vizimagtr31.zip

Offline Jdo300

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Re: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 11:25:08 AM »
Hi Greg & Gregory,

I simulated the different magnet shapes you wanted and added them here in a zip file for you. Hope this helps.

God Bless,
Jason O

Offline Gregory

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Re: Visualize the lines of force of different magnet shapes
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 11:48:17 PM »
Good. Thank you Jason very much!  You helped me a lot. :)  Now I see which ones are the right shapes for my purpose.

As I thought before the upper apex of the triangle magnet seem to be a good entering point for me. It's scatter the force, isn't it? What do you think, guys?

Jason, can you visualize only one more triangle magnet for me, with the same orientation, but with a 90 degree angle in the upper apex?
I don't need more, this is truly enough. Thanks again.

And what program do you use?


Regards, Greg